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    Most points per minute possible in arena... without gemming.

    10 wins is not the fastest. It has too much downtime. It takes far too long to reset.

    5 attacks and out is just lazy but not bad.

    Most people don't understand the principal of compounding Interest so I am not sure how well I can explain this...
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    The fastest points per minute is to do 6 attacks to gain the 2 free energy and then stopping.
    Using the 2 free energy at this point is not efficient at all.
    The smart play is to hold the 2 energy and let it help you get back to full energy to do another run to 6 again.

    You use the free energy to earn free energy to earn free energy to earn more free energy.
    If you reach a milestone that gives free energy... fight to 6 and let the timer run out and fight to 6 again.

    Numbers
    Assuming 100 points per battle, including all percentage bonuses for streaks...
    10 and reset gets you 5.33 points per minute over the entire arena.
    6 and reset gets you 8.97.

    If you don't get it don't flame it... ask someone and maybe open excel and try running the numbers.
    Been top 500 last two arenas without gemming.

    No reason to even farm gear anymore.

    Oh.... and hit your friends list too.

    Enjoy!

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    Interesting, I always thought doing 10 was better because I get a 1* to do enhancements.

    Just a question, what happens when you get the 5 energy rewards?

    I have been trying to time my 10th battle so I get the 5 energy and continue from there.
    I got to about 17th or 18th streak from there on and then spend the lowest gem package to complete the final 20th.

    Thanks for the tip

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    Some people's are really lazy "me" but thanks
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    Max at 5 energy

    you cant hit 6 unless you buy that extra energy, the best way is to burn all 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxespanky View Post
    you cant hit 6 unless you buy that extra energy, the best way is to burn all 5.
    Refer to the note about if you don't understand what you should do.

    Think about it for a minute.

    25 minutes to refresh 1 energy.
    10 minute win streak cooldown.
    Hmm...

    If you have 5 energy and attack 1 time now you have
    4 energy.
    If you wait for 8 minutes and attack again now you have
    3 energy
    Wait another 8 minutes and attack again now you have
    2 energy and look ie lookie... 17 minutes went by. 16 from waiting and 1 for fighting
    Wait 8 more minutes and Attack again and
    1 energy plus the 1 you just refreshed...
    Last edited by Derp; 01-12-2014 at 07:24 PM.

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    who maxes at 6 energy then? unless you gem, or get a chest with energy, you have 5.
    SAY u get your 5 energy, and get the plus 2 bonus for tier 6, or the 5 bonus for getting so many victory points, if you save just a few points, you still max at 5. i dont understand your logic, in anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxespanky View Post
    who maxes at 6 energy then? unless you gem, or get a chest with energy, you have 5.
    SAY u get your 5 energy, and get the plus 2 bonus for tier 6, or the 5 bonus for getting so many victory points, if you save just a few points, you still max at 5. i dont understand your logic, in anyway.
    I think everyone understands that the MAX is 5 energies...

    But if you wait 9 minutes before doing the next battle u will reach the 6th Streak and collect the 2 bonus Energies. Following which, applying the same tactic you can reach the 10 Streak without spending gems

    The original poster is calculating the return rate for doing 6 streaks and waiting VS doing 10 streaks

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    lol getting top 500 dont matter? idk :P
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    Maxed:
    1) Kerstman's Shroud (+)
    2) Blazestone Mantle (+)
    3) Maelstrom Irons (+)
    4) Bronze Chromatic Mantle (+)
    5) Blazebourne Vanguard
    6) Forgestone Aegis
    7) Soulshard Nercomancer
    8) Northerner's Battlegear
    9) Tectonic Mantle

    Non maxed:
    1) Armor of the Devoted

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    that's way to much work, especially worrying about your timer for 50 minutes. i have other stuff to do. i guess those extra 2 energy could add up tho over the week.

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    25 minutes
    You only need 1 energy to make 6.

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    Yep, I told my wife to do this a couple days ago, and she ran to 17 wins this way.
    The 6 streak is interesting though.
    Will have to check this out.
    Thanks for posting.
    Maxed Epic armors = Too many to list. (26 on one character, about 16-18 on other character)

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    Thanks for the info!
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    Hey OP,
    I most definitely understand the facts of Compounding Interest, but I also understand that that splendid idea of yours could screw people over.


    So let's make a calculation taking 100 Points per battle as the base:

    25 Minutes = 1 Energy

    8 Win Streak Method (6 + 2):
    Total spend time: 150 Minutes (2.5 Hours)
    2 Wins: 200 Points
    5 Wins: 300 + 30 = 330 + 200 = 530 Points
    8 Wins: 300 + 60 = 360 + 530 = 890 Points

    890 x 4 (10 Hours) = 3.560 Points

    10 Win Streak Method:
    Total spend time: 200 Minutes (3 Hours, 20 Minutes)
    2 Wins: 200 Points
    5 Wins: 300 + 30 = 330 + 200 = 530 Points
    8 Wins: 300 + 60 = 360 + 530 = 890 Points
    10 Wins: 200 + 60 = 260 + 890 = 1.150 Points

    1.150 x 3 (10 Hours) = 3.450 Points

    8 Win Streak DOES give more points, but we're not done.
    I'll explain now why OP is an idiot.

    Conclusion:
    I checked this and I talked about this in my one of my video's about this before.

    Before we go further into to my conclusion I need you to understand a few things:
    In order to get to Ribbon E (#501-#1000), one must obtain around 55-60K Points.
    In order to get to Ribbon D (#201-#500), one must obtain around 80-85K Points.
    Spend a good week (6 times) killing friends, could get up around 10-12K Points.
    A week has 168 Hours.

    We took 10 Hours in our examples, so this means you'll have to do this NON-STOP.
    This means: 3.560 x 16,8 = 59.808 + 12.000 = 71.808, let's round it up to 75-80K because battles give a bit more then just a 100 points.

    Oh yeah, let's not forget the 30% Win Streak reward, 1 Star armor (3x per 10 hours) x 16 = 48 x 1 Hour and 54 Minutes = 91 Hours (NOTE: This is more than half a week!!!)

    So the conclusion to this really is:
    1. OP is a liar and he talks BS.
    2. You need to consider if you want 48 Free 1 Star armors. Oh yeah to make it even better, one last calculation:
    48 x 8 Materials = 384 Materials x 1 Minute at Skeletons Tomb = Almost 6.5 Hours of Farming Snakeskin Armors, Oh yeah did I mention you lose 3K x 48 = 144K For crafting those as well?
    3. Stop being so damn stupid and take stuff for granted when people talk and check your sources before you actually stop doing your old ways.
    4. OP is actually right about his way being faster, but LOL. 91 Hours ^_^

    Reversal has spoken, Now subscribe to my YouTube channel please <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reversal View Post
    Hey OP,
    I most definitely understand the facts of Compounding Interest, but I also understand that that splendid idea of yours could screw people over.


    So let's make a calculation taking 100 Points per battle as the base:

    25 Minutes = 1 Energy

    8 Win Streak Method (6 + 2):
    Total spend time: 150 Minutes (2.5 Hours)
    2 Wins: 200 Points
    5 Wins: 300 + 30 = 330 + 200 = 530 Points
    8 Wins: 300 + 60 = 360 + 530 = 890 Points

    890 x 4 (10 Hours) = 3.560 Points

    10 Win Streak Method:
    Total spend time: 200 Minutes (3 Hours, 20 Minutes)
    2 Wins: 200 Points
    5 Wins: 300 + 30 = 330 + 200 = 530 Points
    8 Wins: 300 + 60 = 360 + 530 = 890 Points
    10 Wins: 200 + 60 = 260 + 890 = 1.150 Points

    1.150 x 3 (10 Hours) = 3.450 Points

    8 Win Streak DOES give more points, but we're not done.
    I quess u are the idiot here..

    6 Streak win method.
    2 wins: 200 points
    5 wins: 300 + 30 = 330 + 200 = 530 points
    6 wins: 100 + 20 = 120 + 530 = 650 points

    Only need to wait 1 energy, makes it 25 min. With fighting lets say 30min.
    You already have 2 energy so only have to wait 75min.
    makes 105 min = 1.75h

    650 x 5,7 (10h) = 3705

    Is what ts means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarvice View Post
    I quess u are the idiot here..

    6 Streak win method.
    2 wins: 200 points
    5 wins: 300 + 30 = 330 + 200 = 530 points
    6 wins: 100 + 20 = 120 + 530 = 650 points

    Only need to wait 1 energy, makes it 25 min. With fighting lets say 30min.
    You already have 2 energy so only have to wait 75min.
    makes 105 min = 1.75h

    650 x 5,7 (10h) = 3705

    Is what ts means.
    Sigh... you totally misunderstood my point.
    But since you insist:

    3.705 x 16,8 = 62.244 + 12K = 74.244
    Is this anywhere near 80k? No.

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