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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by asto View Post
    i'm loving it. Lvl 42 with no ltb and i can hit lvl 200+ with lvl 4 casinos. I've gone from 9mil to 25mil in my bank in just 40 minutes
    point proven

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    ??

    but i'm the only one that can see rival around my lv?

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    Gree changes something and people whine.. Damn take a few weeks off and nothing changes around here... too many people get all butthurt when robbed or attacked.. lol
    retired

  4. #124
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    +1 to anyone that hates the update / idea!

    In effect, this is a quick search to find high IPH targets. Terrible!

    I have a lvl 96 w 6 mil+ atk (good for lvl) and only 300k IPH (junk). Every time I'd see a target multiple lvls above me (I don't have the update yet) I would know they most likely have a much better IPH than I do. I could rob LTB buildings like crazy for the 2 XP n still not level. I don't deserve to though. If I wanted to rob high IPHs I'd level quick, but I don't. It's horribly unfair to those above me.

    Conversely, if you are a lvl 250 w 5 million atk (not great for lvl) this would be a quick search way for you to find targets too. It's throwing you a bone by showing you who has 5 mil atk/def 100 lvls below you. You'd quickly find high IPH targets. If you don't like the targets around your level spend some money, or start a new account.

    I saw someone mention opening up the ENTIRE player base for all to see when searching. For what it's worth this would be the fairest way to do it, but I still feel it shouldn't be done at all.

    Searching the rivals list for targets is supposed to be a pain in the a$$. It's farming, so if you're not willing to spend time to find a target (I'm not) you don't deserve to rob for cash. Gree, if you roll this out I'll be sure to take twenty minutes a day to rob lvl 200-250s with my lvl 95 in effect ruining the game further for them. Good call! LOL

    No pain no gain right Molly? lol

  5. #125
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    +1

    It takes away to fun to look for a good target. Now you just blindly hit.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aequitas View Post
    We are striving to make the matches worthy of the name "Rival" and therefore make the experience more fair and engaging for everyone involved.

    A new matching system which attempts to take a more accurate approach to rivalry has rolled out to a small percentage of players at random. It's not client platform or version specific.

    We will continue to monitor the health and quality of the system via raw data and player feedback while tuning it and rolling it out to more players as confidence levels increase. Your feedback is welcomed and encouraged during this process.

    If you haven't made it to the new system and get attacked by someone who has, get up in there and hit 'em back because you're probably on nearly equal footing.


    Max, we heard you and were compelled by your well-reasoned and level-headed argument.

    Initially level wasn't a large component in the new matching system. Within minutes of your post we jumped into action.

    If it hasn't already, expect your camper to start getting drilled much less by very high leveled players and instead by other campers in a more similar level range.

    Hello Mr Engineer,
    feel free to add my character to the new system. I'll gladly give you some feedback after gaining some insight
    752 992 722

    Thanks in advance, merry Christmas and a happy new year. (Now, you can't let me down. )
    Last edited by NoBSing; 12-21-2013 at 07:01 AM. Reason: seasonal greetings had to be included

  7. #127
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    I can see 20 up and BELOW my lvl, while another one in the syndicate just sees 10 up and BELOW. Is there any reason for That?

    (Still not like it as it takes the fun away from treasure seeking)

  8. #128
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    Ahhh. the "crazy high stats" and IPH on your level have been earned. Through the spending of either real money or lots of real time and effort and strategic thinking. To give away this earned and paid for advantage would indeed be a crime. Oh to be a lawyer. There might be a class action in this.

    To be among the strongest and richest on your level has been one of the basic goals of many of the best players of this game. I achieved that some time ago and would be very wrought indeed if that was taken away, verily stolen, by the administrators trying to make the losers of this game and poorly played players feel better about themselves.

    I currently only have one "rival" who has stats a million less than me and has a crap hood so its not worth leaving a link to make it easier for them. Don't kid yourself, if you are in favor of this then you have not been doing well on all aspects of this game. I have some in my syndicate who are not worried about it, because they have not been playing a balanced game, so they really have nothing to rob.

    Of course I have urged my synd members to not sell off their buildings because of this stupid unfair idea, or quit the game as many have said, trying to make the losers winners, but instead we have another strategy in mind if this silliness takes hold. Strategy is what this game takes(without spending large amounts of real money) and this of course fundamentally overturns the current /past rules and required strategy. My syndicate will still come through this even though it is yet another giveaway to the upper levels, and upper level syndicates. Minor rule change, this is not. Very Unhappy. What a Wankerish thing to do.

  9. #129
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    "If you haven't made it to the new system and get attacked by someone who has, get up in there and hit 'em back because you're probably on nearly equal footing."

    You freeking idiots! Obviously no one on your planning committee actually plays this game. If I was gonna rob someone I'd make sure I was either way stronger or had a way lower iph than them as I know they either couldn't or wouldn't retaliate for fear of leaving a link. By rolling this out to just a few it's Christmas for them and just a pain in the proverbial for anyone who has taken the time to build a decent income.

    In the longer term many will love these changes but only those that havnt taken the time to build a decent iph. This is bad for everyone who has actually taken the time to thoughtfully build a great account.

    Yes the rivals list needs fixing but all u need to do is cut out all the inactive accounts from the list (there are more and more empty hoods these days) and include perameters of stats so I don't see all these accounts with stats that are 1% of mine. Increasing the level spread by 1 or 2 either way may also mix it up a bit. Matching by stat is just giving a shopping list to players with low iph.

    Oh And lastly are you guys really this dum? Don't answer that. I've played this game long enough to know the answer.
    Last edited by Spunky; 12-21-2013 at 02:30 PM.

  10. #130
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    This change helps some and hurts some. It helps the new players who have quickly bought their stats to catch up. While they have decent stats they have a **** IPH. This hurts those who have slowly built their stats and IPH over time.

    And since the new spenders will out spend the old steady players I think we all know who Gree will favor.


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  11. #131
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    wtf

    Quote Originally Posted by Wind88 View Post
    but i'm the only one that can see rival around my lv?

    can u answer me? lol

  12. #132
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    My jr on my ipod can only see lvls 1 up 1 down from him but my droid as much as 50 up.

  13. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aequitas View Post
    We are striving to make the matches worthy of the name "Rival" and therefore make the experience more fair and engaging for everyone involved.
    You have been warned by many players, either you make this accessible to EVERYONE or to NO ONE.

    Either that or you risk losing 50% of your player base.

    Your move.

  14. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peppers View Post
    I'm leaving my buildings robbed until Gree gets their heads out of their butts.

    There are very few people to rob at my level. Believe me, I've looked. So, I'm now a target to a number of L250's... Great. Wonderful. %^&*. But, I still have very very few targets.

    If you're going to open up the list in this way, make is a TWO WAY STREET! I'd love to be able to search my rivals list for people with only good stats... because they're more likely to have a good IPH. If you're serving me up on a platter to a select few, GIVE ME THE SAME CHANCE. Until then, the buffet is over.
    I am thinking of doing this myself. Problem is, if I do this, I might as well quit, because hood building and collection have always been the only thing I enjoy about this game. Defense was another point but gree took that away a long time ago.

  15. #135
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    This is complete garbage. I spend years building myself up around a strategy of being one of the strongest and highest IPH for my level, just to see all my hard work thrown out in one fell swoop. I'm totally on board with the "leave buildings robbed until this is resolved" protest.

    This just turns every high IPH player into cannon fodder for the lazy who haven't made any effort to build up their own IPH. There's absolutely nothing we can do to protect ourselves. Can't camp. Can't make ourselves stronger, because that just get us stronger "rivals". Can't retaliate because you can't hurt someone with no income.

    I just don't understand how you can change such a fundamental aspect of the game. It's like if the NFL decided in week 15, instead of picking playoff teams based on won-loss record, we're doing it based on total points, screwing over every team with a good defense.

    If you absolutely have to change the rivals list, bracket it by IPH, not att/def stats. This solves a lot of problems. It keeps the incentive to get stronger. It allows you to retaliate against attacks by guaranteeing that you only get hit by people worth robbing back. And, it stops the lazy moochers who don't bother with their own IPH and just feed off the rest of us.

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