Epic Boss health

GREE

DECAGAMES Forum - Powered by vBulletin
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 24

Thread: Epic Boss health

  1. #1
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Jan 2013
    Post Count
    141

    Epic Boss health

    All hail the keepers of the knowledge.

    I am level 84 and want to beat a boss 50 with free hits only.
    what would be the min attack required to do this.
    And how do you work out his health per level
    I know his total health is over 11mill now, thanks GREE, but how is that broken down from from 1 to 50.
    Cheers

    von Bek
    834 785 146

  2. #2
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Jul 2012
    Post Count
    118
    In the past boss health could be fit with a simple formula: health = k * lv^l2 where k was a constant that depended on your level and lvl refers to the boss level. So, the health of boss 5 was 25 times as high as for boss one, etc.

    I think that has changed a bit recently, as I found some of the later bosses had more health than would have been predicted by the formula. And certainly, boss 50 jumps off the curve.

    BC

  3. #3
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Post Count
    168
    I don't know how to calculate health at each level, but all you need to know is the health of boss 50 which is about 11 million. If you want to beat it free just divide how many hits you can do within the 2 hour window into 11 million. If you let me know your regen faction boost level and what regen boost units you have I can give you a good estimate of what your attack will need to be. Either PM me or post them here.
    VFF LEGENDS

    Nuked my base and officially retired. I win.

  4. #4
    Lurker
    Member Since
    May 2013
    Post Count
    15
    You need to know how many hits you can do in two hours. Then divide 11m by that number and it will tell you what your free hit needs to be. For example let's say you do 30 hits in two hours your free hit would have to be 366,667. The free hit is about 67% of your attack. So your attack would have to be 547,264. Those numbers are based off getting 30 hits in two hours some people have better health regen some have worse. Good luck.

  5. #5
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Jan 2013
    Post Count
    141
    Thanks for the reply BC.
    By your formula would it be true to say his health doubles with every level.

  6. #6
    Consistent Contributor steveo127's Avatar
    Member Since
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Florida, USA
    Post Count
    248
    as far as I know the formula has not ben so stagnant. if I understand it correctly, the highest strength players in all of the game within your tier, are taken into account, and then they come up with some formula based on those numbers

  7. #7
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Jan 2013
    Post Count
    141
    Quote Originally Posted by Zachio View Post
    I don't know how to calculate health at each level, but all you need to know is the health of boss 50 which is about 11 million. If you want to beat it free just divide how many hits you can do within the 2 hour window into 11 million. If you let me know your regen faction boost level and what regen boost units you have I can give you a good estimate of what your attack will need to be. Either PM me or post them here.
    Good support guys, thanks
    My level 84 has 125,373 attack and my level 45 has 65,712 attack, both have -10% health regen time.
    Cheers

  8. #8
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Post Count
    168
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulrich von Bek View Post
    Good support guys, thanks
    My level 84 has 125,373 attack and my level 45 has 65,712 attack, both have -10% health regen time.
    Cheers
    With -10% health regen you can get in 15 attacks during the 2 hour window, so you would need roughly need 733,333 attack using all cash hits to beat boss 50. It takes you 23 minutes to regen 26% health which equals 2 attacks.

    Strategy:
    1. Trigger boss
    2. Hit 3 times
    3. wait exactly 1 minute
    4. Hit 2 more times
    5. Set timer for 23 minutes
    6. Attack 2 more times

    Repeat steps 5/6 until you beat the boss.
    VFF LEGENDS

    Nuked my base and officially retired. I win.

  9. #9
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Jan 2013
    Post Count
    141
    23 min, when I get the pop up saying 'I can fight again in xx min' its never the same time, it could be as low as 22.19 or 22.35. Never seen 23 min, very hard to work out the time, i use a stop watch. I have sent in tickets to GREE for clarification but all I got was their formula for stacking, as its not a full 1% but 0.9%. I can do 13 hits but 15 will be hard.
    Anyway if the required attack is over 700k, I will keep saving the gold up, free hitting will take far to long to get there.
    Thanks for your help

  10. #10
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Mar 2013
    Post Count
    137
    When it starts getting harder, \sSet a timer to the second, obviously adding 1 minute and fire off straight away.

  11. #11
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Jan 2013
    Post Count
    141
    Quote Originally Posted by heal View Post
    When it starts getting harder, \sSet a timer to the second, obviously adding 1 minute and fire off straight away.
    I do that, I can get the first 3 hits in under 30sec, i always hit as quick and possible but can't account for lag or crashing etc
    I think the unseen enemy GREE is an element none of us can factor in.lol

  12. #12
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Mar 2013
    Post Count
    137
    aah, you participate in the force close event too. If your first hit is after 15 seconds, then do the 4th & 5th hit about 1 minute 20 into the event. All those seconds add up. Not much you can do about Gree's gift to android users (and I don't mean the valor units).

  13. #13
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Jan 2013
    Post Count
    141
    Quote Originally Posted by heal View Post
    aah, you participate in the force close event too. If your first hit is after 15 seconds, then do the 4th & 5th hit about 1 minute 20 into the event. All those seconds add up. Not much you can do about Gree's gift to android users (and I don't mean the valor units).
    Lol, nice one.
    I will try the 1.20.

  14. #14
    Consistent Contributor
    Member Since
    Jul 2012
    Post Count
    118
    No. Going from level 1 to level 2 quadruples health. From 2 to 3 roughly doubles (9/4). From 3 to 4, it increases by 16/9, from 4 to 5 by 25/16, etc.

    Another way to look at it is to compare the health at every level to level one. Thus it would go 1x, 4x, 9x, 16x, 25x, 36x, 49x, 64x, 81x, 100x... by the time you are at level 50 it is 2500x.

    However, it is very hard to estimate the strength of the level 1 boss, because you can beat him with a single free hit. The only way to estimate the bosses baseline health is to find the point where you first require a second free hit. So, if the first time you require a second hit is at level 9, you know that the boss' baseline health will be somewhere between 1/64 (the level 8 strength) and 1/81 (the level 9 strength) of the hit points in each hit. For a free hit, that's 2/3 of your attack strength.

    So, for example, if you have an attack strength of 210k, then each free hit you deliver 140k. If you can get him on free hits until level 8, then you know that his baseline strength is a bit less than 140,000/64 (2,187 pts) and a bit more than 140,000/81 (1728 pts). You can then plug in that x to the formula.

    The next spot you can estimate strength is when you go from needing 2 to 3 hits. Suppose you now make it to level 11 with two free hits, and level 12 you need three free hits. You can figure out that his baseline strength is a bit less than 280,000/121 (2314 pts, though we already knew it was less than 2187) and a bit more than 280,000/144 (1944 pts). So now we have narrowed it down to 1944 to 2187. You can keep doing this to narrow it down further each time you need one more hit to beat the boss.

    Or, keep your eye out on the forums, and someone will post their stats and number of hits required. Then just find someone in the same tier as you.

    Hope it helps.

    BC

  15. #15
    Articulate Author
    Member Since
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Vilnius, Lithuania
    Post Count
    423
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulrich von Bek View Post
    Good support guys, thanks
    My level 84 has 125,373 attack and my level 45 has 65,712 attack, both have -10% health regen time.
    Cheers
    I don't want to offend you, but you won't be able to finish it with free hits. Especially when they changed the health of last 50th boss few events ago. I did boss 49th with 23 free hits last time, so without cash hits till the very end. But the 50th boss took 29 cash hits from me, so two medpacks. Or I would need 43 free hits for him.

    As you have -10% regen, so it should be 15 hits. For boss in tier 3, which is closing for your secondary account, you need to have 695k attack in your profile. Of course, you can use cash hits and you should upgrade faction health regen to maximise your hits and hit damage, but it will still be huge attack figure considering you bring only 1000-1500 units into the battle.

    Forget beating 50 bosses without gold with your current accounts. I know people who can do it, but their accounts look totally different compared to your accounts

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •