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    iOS or Android?

    What is your opinion?

    Here is mine. Even without Steve Jobs, I still like iOS. Android was first brought online as 'open source' which is cute for an initial launch but a really bad idea in the stretch. As time has shown, give them the code, and lunacy will run rampant. On iOS I have never had a solicitor call me. Nor have I ever had my identity stolen. Unlike my friends on Android.

    Google has made a ton without caring about the long term. Android has 68% of the market bc it is the ghetto OS. Cheap, easy, open source. Ok, maybe Blackberry has become somewhat the definitive ghetto. Android is not far behind.

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    Android is winning because they allow their software to the phone manufacturers for free. So, everyone that can make a phone has an operating system. Google rakes in the dough afterwards. So, all crap phones have Android. Samsung is trying but is still falling short. The iPhone is made in one place. They are the only ones privy to iOS.

    Google is trying to crush Apple with quantity over quality. I for one, choose the pretty lady over the masses of average ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous They View Post
    Android is winning because they allow their software to the phone manufacturers for free. So, everyone that can make a phone has an operating system. Google rakes in the dough afterwards. So, all crap phones have Android. Samsung is trying but is still falling short. The iPhone is made in one place. They are the only ones privy to iOS.

    Google is trying to crush Apple with quantity over quality. I for one, choose the pretty lady over the masses of average ones.
    Sorry, I disagree. Just because it is an OS outside of iOS, should you group them all together and call them all Android? There are many levels of "Android" OS then. I understand what you are saying, and even on that level I like the ability to use any kinds of programs and apps to do whatever I choose. I don't like that Apple requires all rights of whatever program you use on its OS (legally). I think there are also many good OS that fall under your "Android" grouping that far exceed the iOS as far as tech and ability. Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous They View Post
    The iPhone is made in one place.
    That one place is China and how dare google make money.

    How Much Did Google Make in 2011? A staggering $37.9 billion!!

    Of this amount 96% came from advertising.

    The second quarter of 2012 Apple made 39.2 billion

    Google is just raking in the dough.

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    The only company making any profit at all with Android is Samsung. All the other players like HTC, Motorola, LG, Sony, etc. are barely breaking even and some are actually losing money. The only statistic that really matters is profits and Apple is making about 70% of the actual profits. Global market share means jack all if the companies can't make a profit. Android has a larger share because of all those millions of crappy phones running Android 2.3 in China, India, and other 3rd world countries. Even though 2.3 is several years old that is still the most popular version of Android by far. Those people don't buy apps or even use it as a smartphone but just as a flip phone replacement. iOS users buy about 3 times as many apps as Android users and developers go where the money is. Android is also terribly fragmented with so many different version and resolutions. Then you have forked versions with Amazon and others.
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    i doubt that. most people these days get their apps for free lol

    not that I do that..its illegal lmao

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    This chart says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEC View Post
    That's due to them charging a premium for outdated tech and charging both developers (yearly membership) and end users and holding a bit of a monopoly with itunes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DME View Post
    That's due to them charging a premium for outdated tech and charging both developers (yearly membership) and end users and holding a bit of a monopoly with itunes.
    keep dreaming. Unlike Android makers apple won't release tech until it is ready. Good example is all those early LTE phones that were complete crap and sucked battery life like crazy. Apple waited until the LTE chips had matured because they didn't want to give an inferior experience. An entry iPhone is $199 on contract which is the same price as most flagship androids so not sure what premium you are talking about. How about the resale value of an iPhone vs most android phones. With all this updated tech on Android why is there still such lag? They need 8 cores just to come close to being as fast as the 3 year old iPhone 4. Try doing any serious music apps on android and you can really see the lag. The system mixing buffer is where the differences between iOS and Android are most apparent. On iOS, you have the ability to request any buffer size you want, and the OS will give it to you, if the processor is fast enough to handle it. At a 44.1kHz sampling rate, a 256-sample buffer is about 5.8 milliseconds On the latest Android devices, the minimum buffer size is 16384 samples long, which is about 371.5 milliseconds long. The lag is measurable: about 350 milliseconds. It seems insignificant but it is not. This latency problem on Android stops developers from writing musical apps that could compete with those available on iPhone or iPad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEC View Post
    keep dreaming. Unlike Android makers apple won't release tech until it is ready. Good example is all those early LTE phones that were complete crap and sucked battery life like crazy. Apple waited until the LTE chips had matured because they didn't want to give an inferior experience. An entry iPhone is $199 on contract which is the same price as most flagship androids so not sure what premium you are talking about. How about the resale value of an iPhone vs most android phones. With all this updated tech on Android why is there still such lag? They need 8 cores just to come close to being as fast as the 3 year old iPhone 4. Try doing any serious music apps on android and you can really see the lag. The system mixing buffer is where the differences between iOS and Android are most apparent. On iOS, you have the ability to request any buffer size you want, and the OS will give it to you, if the processor is fast enough to handle it. At a 44.1kHz sampling rate, a 256-sample buffer is about 5.8 milliseconds On the latest Android devices, the minimum buffer size is 16384 samples long, which is about 371.5 milliseconds long. The lag is measurable: about 350 milliseconds. It seems insignificant but it is not. This latency problem on Android stops developers from writing musical apps that could compete with those available on iPhone or iPad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEC View Post
    This chart says it all.

    Yet, look at the "phones owned" graph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infamous They View Post
    Yet, look at the "phones owned" graph
    Again, companies aren't making phone as a charity they are making phones to make profits. All those Android phones being sold are mostly cheap sub $200 crap phones running a 3 year old version of Android. They don't surf, don't use apps, and certainly don't buy apps. They are flip phones. Look at the percentage of iOS vs Android for actual web usage.

    How long do you think HTC and all those companies can keep making Android phones if they aren't making any profit?Take all those tens of millions of cheap Android phones used in 3rd world countries and Android isn't nearly as dominant in market share. The only statistic that should matter to a company and it's shareholders is profits and Apple is doing pretty well there.

    Ask Gree which they prefer. Ever wonder why the Android version of MW is so inferior to the iOS version? They didn't even bother making a Android version of Kingdom age. Android is a malware infested mess build on a cheap Java knock off. They can't ever code themselves out of the inherent deficiencies at the core of Android. Throw all the overclocked cores you want at it and an iPhone will generally smoke it in actual use. Having said that I do wish Apple would make a larger version of the iPhone around 4.5" to maybe 4.8". But I use my iPad at home so not really that much of an issue as it used to be before I bought an iPad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEC View Post
    Ask Gree which they prefer. Ever wonder why the Android version of MW is so inferior to the iOS version?
    The game was initially made for iOS and then ported to Android, so it's rather obvious why it would work better on the OS it was actually designed for, although there are still plenty of issues in the iOS version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEC View Post
    This chart says it all.

    Your chart shows a monopoly from manufacturing to software to sales for the iOS platform, with competition in the Android market.

    In case you didn't take Econ 101, monopolies lead to better profits for the company (as your chart shows for Apple), but less innovation and weaker products for the consumer. The iOS based phones are consistently at least 1 generation behind in features. Apple devices are, in general, prettier though.

    The result of the monopoly is once they have you in the ecosystem, it's very difficult to escape to another. You are essentially stuck with Apple and whatever they decide to offer, and you are closed to all the other competition. Tying yourself to iOS is removing competition from your personal mobile world.

    However, when it comes to Modern War, iOS wins. The lack of competition has limited the devices on the OS, so while this is bad for the consumer in terms of innovation and product improvement, it is good in the sense that developers have less variables to support. In other words, it's less buggy.

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