I have accumulated 45 skill points and would like to know if defence skill points protect the buildings as well as the persona?
I have accumulated 45 skill points and would like to know if defence skill points protect the buildings as well as the persona?
They don't protect anything. Put your skill points into stamina and energy.
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Attack skill points seem to work for me so i recon defence points also do. If the defence points cover the buildings I would apoly some more.
Explain please.....?Originally Posted by bald zeemer
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short answer: no one exactly knows what they do, but best guess we currently have is they add a max of 10 (at L100 and up) to your attack/defense score for each skill point. And with the recent stat inflation we've seen, these went from worth only a little to nearly completely worthless.
// Lvl: 250 // 488 394 051 // Atk: 9,917k // Def: 9,602k // IpH: $24,290,680
// Lvl: 147 // 365 655 496 // Atk: 6,954k // Def: 6,790k // IpH: $12,586,132
// Lvl: 79 // 233 936 800 // Atk: 5,978k // Def: 5,901k // IPH: $1,572,478
As of 1-27-14
That's an interesting theory, I've never looked to see if the skill points increase raw attack or defense score.
My theory is that it is 1 factor in calculating whether an attack is successful or not. When you initiate an attack, you see all the stats at the top of the results, including your attack points which I believe is a multiplier. The victim always has a ??? For their defense points. So you don't know, but I'm sure it is a factor in the equation. But I think there is also a random factor than is different for PvP and building attacks. I can't win PvP against someone with 10k more defense, but I can win on a building attack. So clearly building attacks are calculated differently. What I do know is that I've lost on attacks that, based on raw attack/defense score I should have won, and I assumed they had stacked all their skill points on defense. I still lean toward thinking they are a multiplier, but maybe I'm giving the original creators too much credit. Gree has monkeyed around with the original code so much that it may have become watered down to the point of meaningless now, who knows.
To clarify, my theory has been that the algorithm is something like: attacker's attack score X attack skill points X some magic factor VS. defender's attack score X defense skill points X some magic factor.
Again, search the forum, there are 100's of threads on skill points and attack vs rob defense...ranging from day 1 of this game to much more recent.
Skill points def work behind the scenes, except for epic bosses. There the attack skill points work explicitly as I said above, which was a minor validation of the theory.
Another simple answer for attack vs rob, is defense is halved for robs. My attack is in the mid-190s and I've robbed players with true defense above 250k.
// Lvl: 250 // 488 394 051 // Atk: 9,917k // Def: 9,602k // IpH: $24,290,680
// Lvl: 147 // 365 655 496 // Atk: 6,954k // Def: 6,790k // IpH: $12,586,132
// Lvl: 79 // 233 936 800 // Atk: 5,978k // Def: 5,901k // IPH: $1,572,478
As of 1-27-14
Definitely not the case. They're not multiplicative, or someone like me might be able to beat Bam Bam if I loaded on attack points.
Attack is 10 per lvl for 101-200, as can be seen by bosses.
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Maybe Bam Bam has all his skill points loaded into defense points
Pointless, dont do a thing apart from troll you and people looking at your stats, upgrade buildings and spend the cash on items for true stat infrease
LOL! I don't know any more about how skill points work than the next guy, but I've put 400 into energy and 320 into stamina. Somehow, I have 1 on defense, so they must start us out with 1 in each category? I don't remember.Maybe Bam Bam has all his skill points loaded into defense points
Name: (CK) Bam Bam
Level: 250
Attack: 3.1 million
Defense: 2 million
IPH: $30 million
true story... it's totaly meaningless to spend any skill point in A/D anymore.
1 attack or defence skill point increase your a/d by 10 points unless you are under level 100 or above lev 200 (it's 0.09 more points per level ). For level 250 for example 100 skill points is
100x(10+50*0.09)=1450 points but for levels 100-200 its 1000points.
Attack skill points work for boss event while modifiers don't.
Once, before all these events and before the escalation of item's stats, A/D skill points could help a little, now when at lev 200 almost everybody has stats above 100k, spending skill points in attack or defence is totaly a waste. there is no difference if you have 100 or 101K stats in order to spend 100 s.p there. On the contrary,spending 100 s.p in energy or stamina, could be a great investment considering the LTQs.
Attack and Defence skill points should be a modifier... 100 attack skills point should be 5% mafia attack so there would be a value in our s.p.
Last edited by (CK) EL; 05-14-2013 at 05:45 AM.
OK so reading all of this and I still don't know why I lost 2 consecutive rob attempts on a guy with less defense than me, unless the skill points do really mean something. I am level 132 with 500 mafia, he is level 132 with 499 mafia. My attack was 37868 and his defense 27552. And I lost twice, not PvP, but robbing a building. What could have protected him, if not skill points?
And if it matters, I was using 2111 equipment, he was using 1933.
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