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    Do Hackers Have No Brains?

    I'm not a fan of seeing a couple new threads asking for advice on cheaters. Or opinions on whether a player is a hacker/cheater. Why not sticky a thread or something? Dump all inquiries there?

    To the point however, are cheaters/hackers really this dumb? Why obtain all the most powerful weapons. Why upgrade impossibly hard buildings to ten? Why obtain multiple top items from the daily scratchers?

    At least make it believable. I'm sure that the all or nothing mentality is not the best approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_brein View Post
    I'm not a fan of seeing a couple new threads asking for advice on cheaters. Or opinions on whether a player is a hacker/cheater. Why not sticky a thread or something? Dump all inquiries there?

    To the point however, are cheaters/hackers really this dumb? Why obtain all the most powerful weapons. Why upgrade impossibly hard buildings to ten? Why obtain multiple top items from the daily scratchers?

    At least make it believable. I'm sure that the all or nothing mentality is not the best approach.
    Don't give them ideas brein, the more flagrant the cheating the easier it is to actually get Gree to take action on them. Your right, it is pretty moronic to what lengths they give themselves items.
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    You shouldn't underestimate how uninquisitive some people are. I wish I had £10 for every message I've seen on a cheater's wall saying how great their stats are; even from people you'd think would know better, lol
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    Gree can track people by the comments on their wall. I think it works even if your comment is deleted, but if you ever see a comment from me on an obvious cheater's wall saying "Wow, great stats!" or something similar, it's probably accompanied by a report email noting that I posted the message on their wall.
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    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murf View Post
    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_brein View Post
    I'm not a fan of seeing a couple new threads asking for advice on cheaters. Or opinions on whether a player is a hacker/cheater. Why not sticky a thread or something? Dump all inquiries there?
    We don't want people putting these up on the forum PERIOD. Half the time, the person being accused isn't even cheating (just beating on the poster because they have better stats) and it turns into a giant harassment/hate-fest. I've been lax about warning bans for this previously because I understand the sentiment, but I'm about to start just to get the point across.

    If you think someone's cheating, REPORT THEM TO SUPPORT. That's all you have to/should be doing.

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    sorry to call you out CJ , feel your stress bout

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    Potatoes gonna potate I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ54 View Post
    We don't want people putting these up on the forum PERIOD. Half the time, the person being accused isn't even cheating (just beating on the poster because they have better stats) and it turns into a giant harassment/hate-fest. I've been lax about warning bans for this previously because I understand the sentiment, but I'm about to start just to get the point across.

    If you think someone's cheating, REPORT THEM TO SUPPORT. That's all you have to/should be doing.
    Well Cj you may be right about a lot of reports being about legitimate players, but sometimes these reports are of blatant hackers and they are still roaming the streets, the fact gree are so secretive on there action makes players think they are not proactive. Customers must feel informed and also believe gree are doing everything they can to stop cheats. It's easy to say most reports are falsely accused but unfortunately the numbers of cheats have grown considerably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ak Killah View Post
    Well Cj you may be right about a lot of reports being about legitimate players, but sometimes these reports are of blatant hackers and they are still roaming the streets, the fact gree are so secretive on there action makes players think they are not proactive. Customers must feel informed and also believe gree are doing everything they can to stop cheats. It's easy to say most reports are falsely accused but unfortunately the numbers of cheats have grown considerably.
    This is so true, how bout Gree throws us a bone or statement saying they are at least working on anti-hacking/cheating measures? I find a hacker every couple of days and I'm not so high in level, and it is EASY to tell. I don't care how high a level you are, you cannot have hundreds of doomsday frags below the lvl cap, it is mathematically improbable, and a quick checksum into a database can target these cheaters so quickly. Even at lvl 200+ it is a stretch.
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    Sorry CJ your cheating staff need to go back and check out people better. Here are some pics of people I have reported and STILL playing. Except for the one with the archers. If it's legit we all are playing wrong.



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    Yup steve0 I've lost hope in the support team, even when I replied to a ticket saying that the issue was resolved. They said they looked into it and now the issue is resolved, until they explain how these blatant cheats are legitimate, they will continually get rant after rant.

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    easy going , shame on gree ,no more $

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ak Killah View Post
    Yup steve0 I've lost hope in the support team, even when I replied to a ticket saying that the issue was resolved. They said they looked into it and now the issue is resolved, until they explain how these blatant cheats are legitimate, they will continually get rant after rant.
    100% agree no more hope. I have sent in so many pics of hackers my phone has more pics of bad inventory than family photos. And to say they are mostly legit with Billions of new stuff and multi mill in respect points whats the point on reporting at all. When they are legit. Like I said we all must be playing the wrong way.
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    I once thought I came across what's thought was a cheater. His stats seemed so high compared to what I was used to seeing. Then I asked around and a couple friends told me that those stats were very possible. Kinda blew my mind.

    So I can see why Gree says that the majority are false reports. Researching a player's account, pulling all transactions, history, time played. I can totally see this taking several hours to research for one account alone. I haven't come across any legitimate cheaters yet. Though I'm only level 53.

    But showing a screenshot of improbable, even impossible loot/stats does not automatically trigger the ban button. I'm sure Gree does other things with the information. Perhaps researching how the cheat occurred. Try to find ways to plug it. I guess since I haven't encountered it myself then I don't see it as a big problem.

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