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    Quote Originally Posted by marebear View Post
    I agree bosses are nuts. I have like 200k attack and can't get even close to 20 for the first reward. I'm over level 100. Such bs. If I can't do it and I can blind attack down the list and win every fight then there is a problem.
    Are boss stats that high up where you are?
    Shoot...

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    no one is forcing you to pay for anything. Wow people just need to complain and moan about everything. I find the boss events and the LTQ to be very fun even though I cannot reach the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winstrol View Post
    I DISAGREE with all of you because I'm sure most of you have at least few units from LTQs which were gained for free or by using gems, now look in the past few months where we only had lame box event where people had to spend not hounded of dollars but thousands just to get twice weaker unit, than you have now from LTQ which most of the time requires 500~ gems to gain top unit with 7k~stats , and REMEMBER guys this is business and you need to make some profit out of your business , otherwise there would be no point to keep that business.
    I agree with your point too Winstrol. I think we understand its a business, but the scaling seems off on the boss events. I just question if they are going to keep this up as the new standard of gameplay in regards to boss events. These events are more fun than previous events a few months back, but only because they are happening more often and award bigger prizes. Technically we're not getting stronger despite being rewarded stronger prizes, because everyone (most people) are getting the same prizes. So back at GREE enterprises their stats on average strength level among all players is just higher now than before. That being said, it means they make it harder to get top prizes. It just didn't seem like a proportionate scaling. The carrot at the end of the stick is moving farther away and harder to reach, so to speak. Obviously these games have no end or ultimate level like a Super Mario, otherwise we'd stop playing (read as paying). So they have to keep things out of reach or at a premium cost. In the end, you play as long as you're willing to accept the way it is... I don't complain that I've spent money or that i was forced too. For now, I'm still in... We'll see what the future holds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winstrol View Post
    I DISAGREE with all of you because I'm sure most of you have at least few units from LTQs which were gained for free or by using gems, now look in the past few months where we only had lame box event where people had to spend not hounded of dollars but thousands just to get twice weaker unit, than you have now from LTQ which most of the time requires 500~ gems to gain top unit with 7k~stats , and REMEMBER guys this is business and you need to make some profit out of your business , otherwise there would be no point to keep that business.
    Agreed. The new LTQ events are great, even for free and light gem buyers like myself. Great units in those events. By comparison, however, the Box and especially Boss events are growing increasingly lame. The Boss rare prizes are maybe 1/2 to 1/4 the stat strength of the LTQ prizes from the high 20's to high 30's level in the LTQ. There's not much motivation at all to bother spending gems on Box or Boss events when taking that into consideration, especially since the prizes in those events are based on chance. Much prefer the LTQ events where I can at least get into the mid 30's for free, and high 30's with only a few energy refills through gems.

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    Seems like a lot of players are complaining that the LTQ events are too hard but if it was so easy then I'm sure people would be complaining about that too as the game would be too boring. I am a free player so far and I might be persuaded to put some money towards gems at some point. I just don't think it's too fair to criticize the developers when it's your individual choice to purchase gems and your choice how to use them. The boss and box events are fun but if you don't get the best bang for your buck using gems for these events then use your gems towards something else. Part of the fun of this game is figuring out a strategy to maximize your stats with limited resources. I don't think the game is trying to screw players over. Just realize that drops are random and based off of statistics so focus your efforts on things with a higher return. It's like going to Vegas and gambling a bunch of money and then complaining that you lost.

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    @seryna.. We are complaining about boss events being too hard. I think everyone likes the new LTQs.

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    Thanks guys for your response to the OP... To others, please read the OP, maybe then you'll actually understand what I'm saying and not go off on a tangent saying LTQ this and that.

    Everyone has the right to an opinion of course and its great if you disagree with what I've said. If you believe that it's ok that you have to spend more money the next time you play the boss event even though you've payed and played the previous one to become stronger, then more power to you. Not dissing you one iota, but I'm just saying I won't become a hamster on the wheel of deceit.

    If you want to talk business...hahaha, lets make another thread.

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    I think its pretty well balanced. The LTQ where you kill monsters are really good if youre above level 100 with most if not all skill point invested in HS. With high HS most high level players can go far into the quest but for low level players with insufficient HS wouldnt be able to do so. As for boss event
    i think players <L100 have it easier since they cant go far into the LTQ(pve) that requires a good amount of HS.

    Boss events are for low level players
    LTQ (pve) are for high level players

    Although both category of players can do either events, its hard for LLPs to finish LTQ(pve) due to low HS and its hard for HLPs to defeat bosses due to high boss health. Box event on other the hand i think caters for both categories of players, anyone with lots of money to spend can get/win the prize. Just my 2 cents


    EDIT: I forgot to mention that its also easier for high level players since they have a higher energy bar compared to low level players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aephlux View Post
    I think its pretty well balanced.

    Boss events are for low level players
    LTQ (pve) are for high level players

    Although both category of players can do either events, its hard for LLPs to finish LTQ(pve) due to low HS and its hard for HLPs to defeat bosses due to high boss health. Box event on other the hand i think caters for both categories of players, anyone with lots of money to spend can get/win the prize. Just my 2 cents
    Correct at the start of your comment , and I agree but what I disagree is the last part of it " anyone with lots of money to spend can get/win the prize " , this is incorrect with the last event ( I call the Chimera) I spent $700 now that's lots and did I win ??...no I got a unit that I could have purchased for 400 gems not $700 dollars worth ! Fair..no ..ripped off..yes ..but luck of the draw...when it's rigged not to drop random that's my point...how much did the Top player spend just to get that unit ! Yes LTQ better for high level players and boss events for low level players, but it's the amount of cash put into something that's is not random or worth while.. But it takes 1 event like that to make you relise you have been taken down the road for a ride ! Spend huge amounts and get diddley squat! How is that random... Gree knew what they were doing and they play on our challenges to get a unit that was not forth coming... How much do you reckon you would have spent for that unit?? 100-150?? Why did it take700 and still not get it .. Like the casino you can stop anytime IF you want.. But do you want the top prize or not... But the Casino has odd that you can at least get something back not crap.I paid enough for it several times over and that's how they made this event profitable for them ,,how long did it take Gryffon to get that's unit and how much did he spend?
    My point is ..yes I will spend money if I think it's worth it but my chances were taken away from me on that event and I didn't have a choice I could have thrown 1,000 at it and still not got it! But I can tell you I have learnt my lesson and it won't happen again and this will be in line with most others..like Hammer. And I will take your 2 cents !

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    Quote Originally Posted by aephlux View Post
    I think its pretty well balanced. The LTQ where you kill monsters are really good if youre above level 100 with most if not all skill point invested in HS. With high HS most high level players can go far into the quest but for low level players with insufficient HS wouldnt be able to do so. As for boss event
    i think players <L100 have it easier since they cant go far into the LTQ(pve) that requires a good amount of HS.

    Boss events are for low level players
    LTQ (pve) are for high level players

    Although both category of players can do either events, its hard for LLPs to finish LTQ(pve) due to low HS and its hard for HLPs to defeat bosses due to high boss health. Box event on other the hand i think caters for both categories of players, anyone with lots of money to spend can get/win the prize. Just my 2 cents
    The time frame for LLP playing the LTQ can be done free or using small amounts of gems to finish just wait out your energy bar. It is the LLP that want everything for free most of which probly put there skill points in attack or defense early making it more difficult for them to obtain it free thats there poor judgement.

    Lets say for the high level players above L100 playing the boss events and only one person who has money to spent around $1000 to reach boss 50 while other players dont have money to spent that much but if it only cost around $500 to reach boss 50 and with this it is in range of lets say 20 players can afford to spent that much playing so you do the maths, either make it really hard like this and draw in income of only $1000 from one player or $500 from 20 players. Poor judgement analize on the KA production team as reaching boss 50 is too much while other Gree games is boss 30-35 or even better make it to boss 40 like they use to back from the begining. Too many bugs and glitches while at Gree they have no idea whats going on or even test things out so the players have more of a understanding to know whats going on so hear us out what we gotta say fix the health on the boss events or scrap it. It only benefits you Gree to hear us out would get you more income
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratma2001 View Post
    Correct at the start of your comment , and I agree but what I disagree is the last part of it " anyone with lots of money to spend can get/win the prize " , this is incorrect with the last event ( I call the Chimera) I spent $700 now that's lots and did I win ??...no I got a unit that I could have purchased for 400 gems not $700 dollars worth ! Fair..no ..ripped off..yes ..but luck of the draw...when it's rigged not to drop random that's my point...how much did the Top player spend just to get that unit ! Yes LTQ better for high level players and boss events for low level players, but it's the amount of cash put into something that's is not random or worth while.. But it takes 1 event like that to make you relise you have been taken down the road for a ride ! Spend huge amounts and get diddley squat! How is that random... Gree knew what they were doing and they play on our challenges to get a unit that was not forth coming... How much do you reckon you would have spent for that unit?? 100-150?? Why did it take700 and still not get it .. Like the casino you can stop anytime IF you want.. But do you want the top prize or not... But the Casino has odd that you can at least get something back not crap.I paid enough for it several times over and that's how they made this event profitable for them ,,how long did it take Gryffon to get that's unit and how much did he spend?
    My point is ..yes I will spend money if I think it's worth it but my chances were taken away from me on that event and I didn't have a choice I could have thrown 1,000 at it and still not got it! But I can tell you I have learnt my lesson and it won't happen again and this will be in line with most others..like Hammer. And I will take your 2 cents !
    Ratma, did you send a ticket to Gree with your complaint about the Chimera? I know it would be extremely frustrating when you read that Gambit got the Broodmother for free, I think.
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    I can tell ya most players who complaint about the raging chimera got theres sent to them free after event ended.
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    The Boss events sure are challenging at Lvl 100+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The1nONLY View Post
    I can tell ya most players who complaint about the raging chimera got theres sent to them free after event ended.
    There's a hint, hint for you Ratma. Do tell Gree you spent $700 for the Broodmother.
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    Funny I was thinking the exact same thing and today I deleted the app. Goodbye KA you became more of a chore than a game and were no longer fun.

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