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    Equivalency metric?

    Hi all,

    Given the disparity of people on the board at different levels, it often becomes difficult to gauge relative strength across levels. What if a simple calculation of atk (or def) per mafia divided by level was used?

    So a person with 1000atk with 50 mafia at lvl 10 would have a metric of 20, and a person with 5000 atk with 500 mafia at lvl 100 would have a metric of 10, so less powerful than the first person, relatively.

    Thoughts?

    My atk would be 40284 divided by mob of 500, divided by lvl 157, metric of 0.513
    My def would be 47732 divided by 500, 157, metric of 0.608

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    113/105 w 500 mafia at level 169...math is hard

    How much would level matter when level 100+ all players have same 500 max mafia??

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    How about if you want to compare yourself to someone at a higher level with more mafia, you level up, mob up, and put up?
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    Well, that's kind of why I was hoping to get an idea of where I am, before I hit the shark tanks in 15 or so levels.

    Level matters because it is a surrogate for the amount of time you've played the game. Once you hit lvl 100, the mod number will stay at 500, unless you've dropped below max for whatever reason.

    @deluxe, atk is 113000/500/169 equal 1.33. You are stronger than me by about two And a half times. Your def is 10500/500/169, or 1.24, again twice as strong.

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    @dipstick - that's the point. If the analysis holds. It allows you to compare yourself against other people at different levels and different mob sizes WITHOUT having to level up or mob up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvio View Post
    Well, that's kind of why I was hoping to get an idea of where I am, before I hit the shark tanks in 15 or so levels.
    Chances are very good that you're not even close enough to care how close you are. Just play your game.
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    Tank's at about 175-180. I got ~20lvls, give or take. Call it two months. Close enough for me to start thinking about it, hence my post. If you have nothing to add, don't post here and go back to posting in threads where you do add value.

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    So i wonder what sam is w his ~500k attack w 500 mafia at level 200...scary is the correct answer!

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    I think I'm adding plenty of value. You're talking about your "relative" strength compared to other players when apparently you're at around 45k stats. That's not terrible for a free player, but if you even feel the need to talk about where you're at compared to people who spend money on this game, you're delusional. you'd be wise to listen to me and abandon this line of thought. You're not even playing against them... just ignore them and play your game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipstik View Post
    I think I'm adding plenty of value. You're talking about your "relative" strength compared to other players when apparently you're at around 45k stats. That's not terrible for a free player, but if you even feel the need to talk about where you're at compared to people who spend money on this game, you're delusional. you'd be wise to listen to me and abandon this line of thought. You're not even playing against them... just ignore them and play your game.
    Hes got a good point...even with my nifty metric and relatively solid stats, if i piss off the wrong shark i will get destroyed every two hours, on the hour, until the game ends

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvio View Post
    Hi all,
    So a person with 1000atk with 50 mafia at lvl 10 would have a metric of 20, and a person with 5000 atk with 500 mafia at lvl 100 would have a metric of 10, so less powerful than the first person, relatively.

    Thoughts?

    My atk would be 40284 divided by mob of 500, divided by lvl 157, metric of 0.513
    My def would be 47732 divided by 500, 157, metric of 0.608
    I don't think the levvel part is needed. As differences between levels with in 5 levels will be small. Also once you have both people over level 115 then all of the respect items are available. The PVP drops seem to be the same from what people have said after level 100 with some shared even further down the level list.

    besides if my attack or defense per mafia member is 17.5K/200 or 87.5 I know the average contribution for items is 87.5/5 (gun, melee, armor, explosive and vehicle) or 17.5

    I know someone level 100 with 30k stats is a target to work to but they have 500 mafia then ave per mafia member is 60 or 12 per item category. So that means if I can equip the other 300 mafia with similar numbers/items to the equipment my 200 members is I will be easily over that level 100 when I get there.

    so therefore the stat comparison should be stat/#mafia/5 and that would give the average attack or defense for each usable item in the inventory for the stat looked at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitzune View Post
    I don't think the levvel part is needed. As differences between levels with in 5 levels will be small. Also once you have both people over level 115 then all of the respect items are available. The PVP drops seem to be the same from what people have said after level 100 with some shared even further down the level list.

    besides if my attack or defense per mafia member is 17.5K/200 or 87.5 I know the average contribution for items is 87.5/5 (gun, melee, armor, explosive and vehicle) or 17.5

    I know someone level 100 with 30k stats is a target to work to but they have 500 mafia then ave per mafia member is 60 or 12 per item category. So that means if I can equip the other 300 mafia with similar numbers/items to the equipment my 200 members is I will be easily over that level 100 when I get there.

    so therefore the stat comparison should be stat/#mafia/5 and that would give the average attack or defense for each usable item in the inventory for the stat looked at.
    But factoring in level gives good insight to how efficient a player has been. If youre level 200 with crap stats then your metric will come waaayyy down and it will show that perhaps you dont really understand/play the game very effectively. But solid stats at a low level will boost the metric showing good game insight or gold use. Theres 1000 ways to skin a cat but i like the level being incorporated because of what it says about someone's understanding of how to play the game given x amount of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deluxe View Post
    Hes got a good point...even with my nifty metric and relatively solid stats, if i piss off the wrong shark i will get destroyed every two hours, on the hour, until the game ends
    And, of course, if you DON'T piss anyone off, you'll get destroyed every 2 hours on the hour.
    Quote Originally Posted by murf View Post
    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    ^^^^^^ pretty much. The tank only grows larger and larger by the day if people would only realize it isn't the fear of only a group, but you now have 5x the players in your "bracket" as you once did....uncover the wool you will be sought after by everyone all the time and chances are high 50% are better than you (FP'ers).

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