Attacked by MUCH higher level players, how??

[Vedder]

I have been browsing this forum and I think i understand the "whale" description, etc. I am level 74 and over the last couple of days I have been attacked by players with levels of 111, 114, etc. HOW??? One guy took me for a bunch of coin. On my rival or battle list I only see players 73-75, how are these guys able to attack players 30 levels lower than them? Did I enter Whale territory an open myself to get attacked by these high level players?

I did send a support note to Funzio, here was their response.

"Thanks for the message.

This is a known issue that we are currently in the process of fixing and should have resolved in the upcoming update.

I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused."

I really have no issue getting attacked by players around my level, that is an even playing field, but what fun is it to get wipedd out by players with 35k more defense and attack than you do??

Vedder
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[enahs1]

I think you entered whale territory

[Great_wall2]

I have been browsing this forum and I think i understand the "whale" description, etc. I am level 74 and over the last couple of days I have been attacked by players with levels of 111, 114, etc. HOW??? One guy took me for a bunch of coin. On my rival or battle list I only see players 73-75, how are these guys able to attack players 30 levels lower than them? Did I enter Whale territory an open myself to get attacked by these high level players?

I did send a support note to Funzio, here was their response.

"Thanks for the message.

This is a known issue that we are currently in the process of fixing and should have resolved in the upcoming update.

I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused."

I really have no issue getting attacked by players around my level, that is an even playing field, but what fun is it to get wipedd out by players with 35k more defense and attack than you do??

Vedder
574-083-260

Sounds like you are in whale territory. Consensus on the forum from what I can see is level 72 and up will put you whale territory. Just off hand what is your defense right now.

[Joe Brown1]

Vedder, as well as your current defense, what is you ally count? I am curious as to what extent ally count impacts whale's ability to see you (I.e. If you have less allies does it delay when the whales see you)

[Vedder]

My defense is 21,175 and my ally count is 376...

If I am in whale territory why would Funzio recognize the problem and say that it would be fixed in the next update?

Ved

[Hapl0]

CounterSnipe posted this a few days ago (hope u don't mind):

Lvl 92 w/ max allies

Can see from lvl 69 to lvl 115 and from 10 allies to 500 allies

I hope this will help u.

[Freekizh]

Vedder, as well as your current defense, what is you ally count? I am curious as to what extent ally count impacts whale's ability to see you (I.e. If you have less allies does it delay when the whales see you)

That was my experiment. I went down to 3 allies (I cut over 400 allies!!) ..took a long time

Here is the answer: while cutting allies low enuff will reduce the chance of whales seeing you, the problem is as follows - players with 2-3x your ally count can still see you. So if you have 5 allies, a guy with 15 allies can see you. And very occassally a guy with 50-60 will see you because maybe he refreshed 30x! These guys will effectively be your whale.

Skill points which are so effective at high allies are useless at low allies. Therefore you need a very high density of event or gem units as well as very high level upgrades of defense buildings for this strategy.

[Hapl0]

Vedder, maybe it's hard by Funzio to keep happy both sides, one side want to hide from whales and the other side wants to have more rivals, what would u do if u where working in Funzio?

[Hapl0]

Wow Freekizh, thanks for the info. In your opinion is it safe to be with only 3 allies?

[Freekizh]

Wow Freekizh, thanks for the info. In your opinion is it safe to be with only 3 allies?

No it is not safe. I had all high quality armor and weapons and HP and event units but it was not enough. I needed another 1500D in defense building upgrades. You need 3500D+. I miscalculated on the skill points.

A very heavy gem player with defense building upgrades could do it though...

[asdfg12345]

That was my experiment. I went down to 3 allies (I cut over 400 allies!!) ..took a long time

Here is the answer: while cutting allies low enuff will reduce the chance of whales seeing you, the problem is as follows - players with 2-3x your ally count can still see you. So if you have 5 allies, a guy with 15 allies can see you. And very occassally a guy with 50-60 will see you because maybe he refreshed 30x! These guys will effectively be your whale.

Skill points which are so effective at high allies are useless at low allies. Therefore you need a very high density of event or gem units as well as very high level upgrades of defense buildings for this strategy.

How does skill points for defense and offense work?

[Hapl0]

I hope u get ur answers soon Freekizh. I think that McDoc said in MW that a lot of defense in skill points give him some advantage, but maybe the rules are diferent from one game to another.

[Freekizh]

I hope u get ur answers soon Freekizh. I think that McDoc said in MW that a lot of defense in skill points give him some advantage, but maybe the rules are diferent from one game to another.

Yep. Plus this is a social game and low allies is no fun if people cannot visit you

[Hapl0]

Lol, u r right milord!

[Vedder]

HapIO, I guess if I were Funzio, I would aim to have a game that is fair and balanced for all players. If a player my level or a few up or down from my level takes me down and whips my tail, fair enough, they have played the game better than I have and perhaps invested in gems, etc. I have no issue getting outplayed by players my level, what I don`t understand is why players 30 levels higher with 40,000 a/d points are allowed to attack lower players. Where is the challenge? If they do hit those player for whatever reason, the benefit to doing so should be minimal.

This really isnt a whine, just trying to understand the reasoning and benefit to these guys preying on players that have no prayer in defending themselves.

I guess I entered whale territrory and I have to swim with the big sharks now!!

Ved
574-083-260