skill points?

[kelpjuice]

Hey guys,

I'm relatively new here, been lurking for a month or so. So here is my question, is it worth putting skill points into attack? I'm currently level 91 with 56 stamina and 1700 energy, I'm no longer putting any more into energy, only stamina now. Is there a good time to stop pouring it into stamina? I read some people in the forums with 300 attack (including black widow). Any input would be awesome!

[AppleMacGuy]

IIRC the consensus is that that putting skill points into attack or defence is pointless...questionable at best. Continue upping stamina - 100 at least IMO (I only got to 89 and wish I had more)...I would build on energy also towards 2500-3000 range. Even if you're not doing maps the energy is useful at the start of an event as a menas to obtain event boxes top open when there are few around via PvP.

[kelpjuice]

Sweet, that was exactly what I was thinking, wanted some clarification. Thanks!

[Euchred]

I like my setup at 2000 energy and 100 stamina, I put 55 points into defense which turned out to be pointless. I'm sitting at 344 attack with the bank buster and black widow.

[kelpjuice]

I like my setup at 2000 energy and 100 stamina, I put 55 points into defense which turned out to be pointless. I'm sitting at 344 attack with the bank buster and black widow.

So would you say it was a waste to put the 144 into attack that you put in?

[Euchred]

So would you say it was a waste to put the 144 into attack that you put in?

Not really I don't see the point of putting my energy and stamina any higher but to each his own. So attack is all that's left

[nopenopenope]

I suggest putting it into stamina so you can take more money off others and upgrade your hood income. 15k is low for lvl 91

[kelpjuice]

Yeah thats what I'm trying to do right now. I didn't camp at all starting off, although now I am sort of crawling, just attacking for thug life goals and robbing.

[Miss Jasmine]

is it worth putting skill points into attack? Is there a good time to stop pouring it into stamina? I read some people in the forums with 300 attack (including black widow). Any input would be awesome!

Well I'm pretty new to the forums as well, been in-game a little longer though. Here's my thoughts on it:

Current Skill Points Layout:

Level 47

Attack: 15
Defense: 0
Energy: 0 (Which totally sucks for events, but oh well ...)
Stamina: 67

Personally, I heavily favor investing in Stamina over Attack. I'm very picky about how I invest points when it comes to stuff like this. I like having specific numbers, and solid facts so that I can actually calculate out the exact bonuses of what I'm getting (Yes, I can be a nerd too ). Unfortunately the Attack skill does not offer this.

From what I've seen so far though, as long as I attacked or robbed someone whose true defense was 80% or less than my true attack (This was before I had any skill points in Attack), I didn't have any problems whatsoever (Such as fights lost or grenade consumption, for example.)

I then tried adding an additional 15 Skill Points I had saved into Attack (Not many I know), and attacked again. Sadly, my results hardly changed at all. I was still losing at approximately the same rate as before, to the same player. Any defense that was still roughly over 80% of my true attack, and I would either start losing fights, or begin consuming grenades very quickly (Which in either case I concluded to mean that my attack still wasn't high enough). I've been recording the data from various fights though, and I'll be looking to see if there's any significant change if I do actually receive a Black Widow Shotgun and +100 Attack Skill bonus on my Android this Monday.

As far as Stamina goes, I'd honestly say the more the better. I'm looking to get at least 100 Stamina before I even consider investing into Attack again. Even if you CAN log on constantly to fully utilize lower levels of stamina, higher stamina still equates to much easier respect farming, and longer "effective down time" (What I mean by that is more free time to go do other irl things, without having to log back in every single time your Stamina maxes out at 5).

If you love PvP like me, and play often, you can burn through 60+ Stamina without any problems at all. In all honesty though, I'd suggest that you base your Stamina level off of your actual play time. If you ever reach a point where you regularly find yourself having difficulty using up all of your Stamina, then start investing in Attack instead.

But then again, this is all just my take on things.

[murf]

I think the consensus guess at the value of attack/defense skill points is this formula:

max(1+(.09*Level),10). So at L100 each skill point is worth 10 attack/defense points.

I think someone found it in the code awhile back.

[nopenopenope]

I think the consensus guess at the value of attack/defense skill points is this formula:

max(1+(.09*Level),10). So at L100 each skill point is worth 10 attack/defense points.

I think someone found it in the code awhile back.

Furthermore on the consesus guess is the SP additions are no longer reflected on the results screen.

[Plumbernick9]

If anyone cares...
I have 187 skill points in defense, and I rarely get robbed or attacked. I'm averaging one successful attacker/robber per week. Points well spent in my opinion.

[Inzaghi]

I think the consensus guess at the value of attack/defense skill points is this formula:

max(1+(.09*Level),10). So at L100 each skill point is worth 10 attack/defense points.

I think someone found it in the code awhile back.

It's not true. I have 100 skill points added but attack point does not increase by 1.

[nopenopenope]

It's not true. I have 100 skill points added but attack point does not increase by 1.

Since you're continually posting the same thing over and over without stating any facts, I have taken time out of my day to do the work for you...

We have long known about that Skill Point formula from many sources. The formula quite possibly may have changed, but it's all we have to go on and it was extracted from original game data. See here:

But reversed engineered by forum members. The formula is

mult = 1.09 + 0.09 * (level - 1)
if mult > 10 then mult = 10

from this thread: http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...t-vs-Def/page3

This was also discussed by CCM in a now deleted thread:

This is where CC Mark talk about multiplier definition.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...l-points/page2

I've also already told you that the results screen was changed that no longer shows as much information as before. That was explained here:

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...reen#post62022

and here:

Don't rely on just the screen or you will drive yourself nuts. There is also the defense skill points which you don't see which factors into the equation as well as the random factor.

and here:

Skill points are not included in the calculation.

[PawnXIIX]

I think the consensus guess at the value of attack/defense skill points is this formula:

max(1+(.09*Level),10). So at L100 each skill point is worth 10 attack/defense points.

Thank you so much, I was looking for this. Does that show at all anywhere or is that just used during some behind the scenes calculation? (like with the random variable that helps determine if you win or not)

There seems to me...to be just simply a grey area on this subject. This is the only thing I'm not even sure about on the forums :/