Payout algorithm explained

[Kirkjmurray]

Nightclub level 2 payout is $577,500 as a Tycoon.

[whocareswhatmynameis]

So...what can one conclude from this?

Which type of building pays out the best A or B?

A (ten character limit)


edit:

but, when it comes to gold purchase, the metric used is highest income possible (lvl 10) divided by gold spent. so, while generally it is best to invest on buildings that have a higher rate of increment on leveling up, for gold buildings, initial investment is also vital.

[Tramp Stamp]

Great post. I built my own spreadsheet from it. Couple of things....

The Internet company's initial payout is missing a zero, should be 16,000. The Jazz Club is missing altogether. Looking at the first upgrade, it appears to be type B, as does the Zeus Theater. They are $250 and $8400, respectively.

Corrected Internet Company base payout. Added Type B base payouts for Jazz Club and Zeus Theater.

[Tramp Stamp]

So...what can one conclude from this?

Which type of building pays out the best A or B?

Type A has best growth while Type B tends to have higher initial payouts. The real conclusion is that this is an intermediate step in providing insightful data to the end user. It's meant to eliminate the gaps and data entry errors in the currently best available data.

[Tramp Stamp]

Nightclub level 2 payout is $577,500 as a Tycoon.

Then it's confirmed: Nightclub is a Type A. The previously calculated level 10 payouts stand.

[Kirkjmurray]

Then it's confirmed: Nightclub is a Type A. The previously calculated level 10 payouts stand.

It's going to be a long road to get a Nightclub to Level 10. Upgrade cost to Level 2 is 66 mil. haha

[Tramp Stamp]

Upgrade costs are super easy. They increase 67% each level. Just need to get initial upgrade cost. Build times would complete the picture.

Appears to be the case, though there are rounding errors. It could be due to using a figure that looks like 67% but isn't quite or insufficient precision with floating point operations. I am not interested in finding the source.

[Duke.0]

Very good thread !
Nice work

[Tramp Stamp]

when it comes to gold purchase, the metric used is highest income possible (lvl 10) divided by gold spent. so, while generally it is best to invest on buildings that have a higher rate of increment on leveling up, for gold buildings, initial investment is also vital.

Regarding gold purchases, even if one takes the stance of wanting relative rewards right away, the four choices I recommended provide a decent spread. Adult Movie Theater is somewhat pricey at 130 gold, isn't available until level 98, but offers the highest awards. Smoke shop is affordable at 15 gold, available sooner at level 38, and still offers high rewards. Church is expensive at 200 gold, available later at level 64, but offers massive payouts. Finally, there are the Ice Cream Shop and Basketball Court, which are "free", available right away, yet still rank rank near the top in value.

Another note is I only used level 10 payouts to compare Type A to Type B. If you eliminate Basketball Court, Ice Cream Shop, and Techno Club, the remaining list will basically scale regardless of level.

Finally, I updated the list to include Jazz Club and Zeus Theater. Jazz Club is an abysmal value, but Zeus Theater is strong enough for a moderate recommendation.

[Tramp Stamp]

Updated first two posts with data from Wikia site.

[Euchred]

I picked up a couple churches and zeus thetres. Now I'm just waiting for level 102 for the rock cafe and level 125 for the (Gentlemans club?). I might pick up some basketball courts as soon as space permits. This knowledge puts a premium on getting movie theatre and lofts upgraded i'll be putting my lofts to level 3 asap.

Kinda makes me wish they had an inbetween algarithim for high level gold building to make the more worth it. With an end payout of 50x would be nice.

[Joeycool]

Outstanding work Tramp Stamp!

[Anubis]

Very nice to see that.

I think its worth mentioning however that gold buildings are relitively effortless to get (just a choice of shall I spend the r/m or not). Having smoke shops (ice cream shops and BB courts) might be good value for money, but having them isn't going to open up other possibilities ingame (except during the lower levels).

Having 2x Churchs, Anchor imports and wedding chappels it means you have the $$$ to upgrade the lower range buildings high up (Agency's spring to mind - I've managed to easily take them up to 8 now with the new income). If I wanted too (which I don't because it would take me months to see a positive return) I have the free cash to get a loft or crematorium and/or equip my mafia with mid level $$$ equipment. With R/M buildings I don't look at the gold cost so much, I just consider what impact having 'x' income will have on my hood.

I aggree the Mansion isn't worth it, but it does add a certain aesthetically pleasing building to your hood.

[Anubis]

I can confirm that Mansion is Type A
Payout at level 3 is $5610 with Tycoon
Still a worthless purchase

[allhaildiscordia]

Type A includes buildings that require less than building 10, and all building that require N mafia to build. So:
Gun Shop
Italian Restaurant
Movie Theater
Loft
Nightclub

The 67% formula works as long if you apply it as a exponent and round only the final result

1.67^(Level-1)*base

The gold buildings have a cash equivalent price that is used for determining the upgrade costs and presumably sell back price
1 Basketball Court $300
1 Techno Club $800
1 Ice Cream Shop $500
2 Mansion $30,000) 0:05:00 18 days, 0:00:00 18 days, 0:00:00
6 Empire Theater $40,000
12 Jazz Club $15,000
14 Carousel $20,000
16 Cowboy Casino $25,000
19 Sushi Bar $24,000
23 Modern Art Museum $100,000
26 Chicken and Waffles $80,000
28 Blues Club $150,000
38 Smoke Shop $100,000
43 Anchor Imports $600,000
48 Gaming Parlor $150,000
55 Zeus Theater $500,000
64 Church $1,500,000
87 Wedding Chapel $1,800,000
93 Adult Movie Theater $3,400,000
102 Rock Cafe $9,000,000
113 Pirate Tavern $14,000,000
125 Gentleman's Club $19,000,000
165 Palm Hotel $44,000,000