Frontline Goals- Still Broken After Update

[[PM] President Hightower]

At the end of all 3 events, we will run a script that tallies up the deploy points earned during Frontline: Tallinn I and add the prizes to your accounts if they do not already exist. This will also consider the wrapper prizes you should have gotten and give those out, as well.

@corey: Completing the first goal at its previous requirement should now have you completing many goals past that due to the new requirements being so much lower. I know this may not be acceptable to all players, especially those who pushed hard for the first one, but it is more fair to a broader set of players. Hopefully you achieved much higher prizes due to your effort.

[Shadow Lurker]

Completing a goal, as suggested DID temporarily fix my goals but then it stopped again. After the 2nd data push, 3 of my accounts are working but 1 is still stuck. :/

[corey0025]

At the end of all 3 events, we will run a script that tallies up the deploy points earned during Frontline: Tallinn I and add the prizes to your accounts if they do not already exist. This will also consider the wrapper prizes you should have gotten and give those out, as well.

@corey: Completing the first goal at its previous requirement should now have you completing many goals past that due to the new requirements being so much lower. I know this may not be acceptable to all players, especially those who pushed hard for the first one, but it is more fair to a broader set of players. Hopefully you achieved much higher prizes due to your effort.

I'm not even sure how to reply to that, I'm more disappointed that you think i actually care if it's fair to those that didn't get the goal completed. Do you understand that in most places when you say something is going to be a certain value (and it costs money to achieve that) and then after a significant amount of time (and after players have spent said money to achieve that goal) you then lower that goal which now costs less money, not once, but twice, that is theft by deception? How can that be justified by being fair for most of the players, and as you say not all may agree who pushed hard for the goal. They didn't push hard for it they spent actual money. And you changed the value of the money they had to spend to get that after they got it. If the developers would have increased the goal, ppl would still be upset, but they wouldn't have been as cheated because they could have stopped at that point. But in this case your company went out of their way to cheat people out of money. If I were you I'd ask the developers if they intentionally try to alienate the people who play this game or if it is just a coincidence that they seem better at that than programming this game. By the way I was halfway to the goal the first time it was lowered and if I would have known it was going to lower a third time (with only 15 minutes left in the event btw) I would not have continued to spend. So as you can imagine it appears to be very intentional on the developers part as yet another way to cheat people out of their hard earned money. I commend you for the job that you have done on the forum and trying to provide the communication that has been severely lacking in the last year, but Jesus this is insulting at the very least and borderline fraudulent.

[levelhead]

I'm not even sure how to reply to that, I'm more disappointed that you think i actually care if it's fair to those that didn't get the goal completed. Do you understand that in most places when you say something is going to be a certain value (and it costs money to achieve that) and then after a significant amount of time (and after players have spent said money to achieve that goal) you then lower that goal which now costs less money, not once, but twice, that is theft by deception? How can that be justified by being fair for most of the players, and as you say not all may agree who pushed hard for the goal. They didn't push hard for it they spent actual money. And you changed the value of the money they had to spend to get that after they got it. If the developers would have increased the goal, ppl would still be upset, but they wouldn't have been as cheated because they could have stopped at that point. But in this case your company went out of their way to cheat people out of money. If I were you I'd ask the developers if they intentionally try to alienate the people who play this game or if it is just a coincidence that they seem better at that than programming this game. By the way I was halfway to the goal the first time it was lowered and if I would have known it was going to lower a third time (with only 15 minutes left in the event btw) I would not have continued to spend. So as you can imagine it appears to be very intentional on the developers part as yet another way to cheat people out of their hard earned money. I commend you for the job that you have done on the forum and trying to provide the communication that has been severely lacking in the last year, but Jesus this is insulting at the very least and borderline fraudulent.

I can see your points. But whatever GREE do in this situation there gonna be ppl that get fk over. GREE totally messed up. And if they never changed it when they did, there would have been a big knock on effect on the 2nd day. Tho I'm pee'd they screwed it up in the first place, at least they corrected it. I just hope they award ppl who put the extra effort in and compensate the ones accordingly

[Hobbs]

I'm not even sure how to reply to that, I'm more disappointed that you think i actually care if it's fair to those that didn't get the goal completed. Do you understand that in most places when you say something is going to be a certain value (and it costs money to achieve that) and then after a significant amount of time (and after players have spent said money to achieve that goal) you then lower that goal which now costs less money, not once, but twice, that is theft by deception? How can that be justified by being fair for most of the players, and as you say not all may agree who pushed hard for the goal. They didn't push hard for it they spent actual money. And you changed the value of the money they had to spend to get that after they got it. If the developers would have increased the goal, ppl would still be upset, but they wouldn't have been as cheated because they could have stopped at that point. But in this case your company went out of their way to cheat people out of money. If I were you I'd ask the developers if they intentionally try to alienate the people who play this game or if it is just a coincidence that they seem better at that than programming this game. By the way I was halfway to the goal the first time it was lowered and if I would have known it was going to lower a third time (with only 15 minutes left in the event btw) I would not have continued to spend. So as you can imagine it appears to be very intentional on the developers part as yet another way to cheat people out of their hard earned money. I commend you for the job that you have done on the forum and trying to provide the communication that has been severely lacking in the last year, but Jesus this is insulting at the very least and borderline fraudulent.

Totally agree,
And I certain the only reason they reduced the goals(after the spending had occurred) was to ensure the spending continued on day2 and into WD Event.
It appears to be very questionable tactics at the very least and I think All that did chase the original goal should feel cheated,of course the original goals were way over the top and the seconds goals not much better.
Bottom line is,as it is with many events,they should get their game in order BEFORE they introduce new ideas,not sure how they test or research these events but it needs to be addressed for future events.

[Agent Orange]

I honestly feel sorry for HT being stuck in the middle and left hung out to dry. As I've posted before there is no long range plan and from the looks of things no competent management leading the team. Just some greedy idiot who doesn't have a clue. And I see all of this just as a customer so it was really enlightening to read the same things from those on the inside, https://www.glassdoor.ca/Reviews/GRE...ws-E477773.htm

Sending out half baked product is killing you guys, changing the goal posts blows your credibility and opens you up to justified refunds.

[DEWIN NUTTIN]

I honestly feel sorry for HT being stuck in the middle and left hung out to dry. As I've posted before there is no long range plan and from the looks of things no competent management leading the team. Just some greedy idiot who doesn't have a clue. And I see all of this just as a customer so it was really enlightening to read the same things from those on the inside, https://www.glassdoor.ca/Reviews/GRE...ws-E477773.htmSending out half baked product is killing you guys, changing the goal posts blows your credibility and opens you up to justified refunds.

There is a plan.There has always been a plan.The plan is to make money. Some organizations see customers. Those organizations value and appreciate the patronage of their customers. Truth is this entire situation is symptomatic of Sado-masochism. If someone constantly abuses you and you keep returning receiving more abuse, is that sane?Half baked is very kind of you. Half baked would be a 1,000,000,000,000% improvement.

[WBS]

Gree does not care about its players or quality. They test their events very little and continue to
Push out new stuff without fixing underlying problems. The game is a huge pile of band aids holding it together. Good luck to those of you who did spend to get something, why you still do it is beyond me but that's your choice.

Hightower I appreciate the communication and the timely responses on many issues. It's still a hard bridge to build though with the fraud that Gree has pushed out and did to its players the past few years. I wish you good luck in that.

[Agent Orange]

There is a plan.There has always been a plan.The plan is to make money. Some organizations see customers. Those organizations value and appreciate the patronage of their customers. Truth is this entire situation is symptomatic of Sado-masochism. If someone constantly abuses you and you keep returning receiving more abuse, is that sane?Half baked is very kind of you. Half baked would be a 1,000,000,000,000% improvement.

Ah yes the 'plan' to make money........wonder how that's going........

And quite true about those who seem to enjoy abuse, it does conjure up some equally bizzarre images....

[DEWIN NUTTIN]

Ah yes the 'plan' to make money........wonder how that's going........And quite true about those who seem to enjoy abuse, it does conjure up some equally bizzarre images....

My mother always used to say, "They always find each other." Whenever she said that a wry little, Mona Lisa like "half smile" would slowly appear on her face, then slowly it would disappear. I was about 22 years old before I knew what she really meant. Old friend, I must now tell you, "They ALWAYS find each other!" LOL LOL LOL LOL

[Agent Orange]

My mother always used to say, "They always find each other." Whenever she said that a wry little, Mona Lisa like "half smile" would slowly appear on her face, then slowly it would disappear. I was about 22 years old before I knew what she really meant. Old friend, I must now tell you, "They ALWAYS find each other!" LOL LOL LOL LOL

Your mother is a very very wise woman.

[levelhead]

Thanks AO. I had a good read on that. It's good to know what ppl think on the inside. confirms just what I thought. There is no long term direction for this game, and it's only for how much they can squeeze out of ppl for a broken outdated platform. If only more ppl took the time to look into it before departing there cash GREE would be in trouble...

[CAPT MICKY D]

80 mil for ultimate 5/5 unreal I usually only get that on a 3 day event.... What a fubar event this became