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    Popeye's Advanced Guide

    Hi guys i was away for awhile now that I've returned I've decided its about time my guide was published.
    Mickey two toes has done well and his guide covers alot of information for new players starting out. Here is a link
    http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...=rolling+noobs

    however my guide covers item location PVP loot and building information such as defence and attack.
    Another link to the crime city wiki http://crimecity.wikia.com

    Firstly although i have been playing this game awhile I'm not an expert and alot of my information is my own so may not be correct if there is anything you don't agree with just say.

    Contents
    1 - Basics
    2 - PVP Loot vs PVE Loot
    3 - Items
    how to determine an item
    PVE Items and locations
    PVP Items and list
    Cash Items
    Respect Items
    5)Defense Buildings
    6)Money Buildings
    7) Attack and Defense Skill
    Why are high levels able to attack me
    Explosive guide
    10) FAQ’s




    Class
    Right lets get this guide underway...
    Pick Tycoon. enough said.

    PVP loot vs PVE loot- loot from missions as we all know can be highly overpowered M4A1 and Machine gun, however i believe through reading through various peoples threads and my own experiences are that PVP loot comes at a much faster rate with the added bonus of respect and maybe money.

    I personally prefer PVP loot but when i reach a higher level and have no issue with the rate I gain levels i will be farming certain missions for certain loot.

    Items
    a lot of people post topics on items they wish to know the location of i will tell you the common answer to these questions and also the location of a few popular items will be later on.
    Items are located all over the place the way to tell if they are gained from completing a Goal or a mission is simple. Goal items will be single items that cannot be obtained again eg Chefs Cleaver you can tell these items as they are normally average items that may not have a persons name there will only ever be one per person.
    common items people want to know there location that are in this category are cars such as the Gaint, Manta Ray, Rampage and the Armored Car.
    PVP Items here is a list of the items obtained through fighting other players.
    the average rate of getting a PVP item is as follows although the real number is properly a little higher as for various clitches when i first joined the game where item loot wouldn't always show.

    PVE items are normal items that various people with have multiple numbers of the item because they would of been farmed
    Here are a few items along with there locations.

    Funeral Hall (Graveyard)
    Bumper cars (Boardwalk)
    State jacket
    Atk 3
    Def 10
    Energy 118

    Russian District
    Job- Bank
    Titanium Guard Armor
    Atk-11
    Def-32
    Energy 375x6

    Stone Hammer Melee
    empire university
    gym
    250 energy
    Atk- 10
    Def - 7
    russian district
    Pharmacy
    Hazmat suit
    Atk 2
    Def 8
    140 Energy

    Russian Market
    Steal Vodka
    SWAT Pistol
    Atk 4
    Def 8
    110 energy


    Boardwalk -shooting game
    junkyard -blue dumpster
    M4 A1
    Atk-20
    Def- 22

    Junkyard
    Flattened cars
    Devilish Taxi
    ATK-6
    DEF-5
    Energy-85

    Autorow
    Car Dealership
    Lowrider
    Atk- 6
    Def- 6
    105 Energy

    Liberty Park
    Lakeside restaurant
    Armored truck
    Attack 2
    Defence 5
    Energy 68

    China Town
    Set up opium trade
    Armored Police Truck
    atk- 4
    Def-19



    PVP items
    Like i said the average Chance of getting a loot item is 1 - 8

    Guns
    Micro Uzi Atk
    Hunting Rifle -
    Colt 45 -
    Steyr AUG -
    m14 Sniper Rifle -
    M4 Shotgun -
    m72 Rocket Launcher -
    Skull Shotgun -
    Bloody AK -

    Melee
    Butterfly Knife -
    Nail Bat -
    samurai knife -

    Armour
    Army Helmet -
    Boxing Trunks -
    wrestlers Mask -
    Police Armour -

    Cars
    Armoured Police truck -
    Pimps Lowrider -


    Cash Items

    The cash items i recommend to outfit your mafia are...

    Gun - Sniper Rifle A11 D 5 cost $150,000
    Melee - Steel Garrote A 10 D 5 cost $53,000
    Armor - Swat Helmet A 4 D 8 cost $18,000
    Expolsive - N/A
    Vehicle - 69 Camaro A 5 D 4 Cost $35,000

    Total - A 30 D 23 Cost per mafia - $254,000 cost per 5 mafia $1.250,000

    Comparable to

    Gun - Tommy Gun A 10 D 6 Respect 100
    Melee - Columbian Knife A 11 D 9 Respect 200
    Armor - combat boots A 5 D 8 Respect 50
    Expolsive - N/A
    Vehicle - mustang A 6 D 4 Respect 125

    Total A 32 D 27 Cost per Mafia - Respect 475 cost per 5 mafia Respect 1250



    Respect
    Whats the best thing to do with respect?
    Personally i would spend it. what ever you do with it its important that you understand the gain you will receive from buying that item and the “real value” that item has for instance a tommy gun is worse then a sniper rifle which costs $150,000 and combat boots are basically the same as a swat helmet at $18,000.
    I nearly always buy cars with my respect in order to max my attack and defense.

    To get the most respect points for your stamina rob buildings such as meat factories, Clothing store, Lofts, and warehouses.
    Attack pillage and rob to your hearts content but remember for every action there is a reaction!


    Money buildings
    Thanks to Tramp stamp the genius
    http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...ithm-explained

    .... there is a list of the income buildings along with there income per hour this was before the tycoon class was released but you get to see the basic idea of cost and POI.

    My personal play style allows me to collect once every 3 hours as i have a young child who needs feeding every 3 hours and at work I'm able to check in my breaks.
    I've recently invested in the 12 hour buildings cinema and loft were to good to turn down personally. Im trying to get to $50k per hour this means ill be earning just over £1,000,000 a day. which is my aim to be able to outfit my mafia well enough to compete later on.


    Defence Buildings
    Again here is another spreadsheet
    http://crimecityiphone.wikia.com/wiki/Defense_Buildings

    People often dont bother with defense buildings however this is one of the reasons i win all the robbieries against me.
    If you buy gold for anything buy bodyguard agencies these give 350 defence per one at level 7 i just brought 10 in the sale.... they offer much more bang for your buck then items.

    Mod Mark once said that when you are robbed only half the defense of equipment is used however the full amount of defense from buildings is. therefore i have invested in alot of defense i have roughly 2500 at my level 55 with a mafia size of 150 this makes me virtually unattackable. yeah of corse with this game there is the random element where some people that have brought gold items can randomly beat me but thats fine with me.
    Last edited by Popeye The Sailor Man; 12-05-2011 at 01:33 PM.
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    Robberies won: 1645 Robberies lost: 5 mafia members: 264
    mafia attack:7958 mafia defence: 12209
    income per hour: 36654
    MW Add me 713 602 528
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    Jobs completed:18 Fights won:181 Fights lost: 12
    Raids won:10 raids lost: 3 alliance members: 3
    Total attack: 49 Total defence: 110
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    [The attack and defense skill

    This is a direct quote from mark himself Fight defense looks like this:

    Total item defense + Building defense + (contribution from defense skill calculation) +/- (random element)

    Rob defense looks like this:

    1/2 total item defense + Building defense + (contribution from defense skill calculation) +/- (random element)

    Why are high levels attacking me?

    When you reach level 75 there has been an issue on this game where the dynamic of being able to see people that are around your level chances instead as well as this high levels with similar mafia sizes may be able to see you as well. This will continue to be an issue until there are more people in and around the same level.
    Explosive guide
    explosives are a good idea... it just doesn't work at the moment the rate in which the consumables are consumed doesnt make them cost effective, especially if they are defensive ones as they are Halved when you are robbed.

    quote from mark “Templar, explosives contribute the exact same way other items do. The same rules apply to them. Different explosives have different chances of being destroyed.” apparently they are writing a guide on them myself ill update this when i know more.


    FAQ's
    What's the disadvantage of too many mafia??
    The disadvantage is that when your a higher level the scope of people that can see you that have similar mafia sizes even tho you are not close in terms of levels. besides whats the advantages of having more that you need or can outfit? there are many more negatives then positives for having a high mafia.

    What should i spend my gold on?
    you should spend gold on what makes you happy... bare in mind that that by purchasing a gold building it would take a lifetime for some of the buildings to earn as much as a gold item of similar value would add to your attack.

    Does selling a gold building return 50% of purchase price back?

    No it gives half of what the building would of cost you if you brought it with cash .... which isnt as much as you think.

    Where is the Femme Fatal
    Its a gold limited item enough already.

    How am i doing for my level?
    my guide is... look at other players what are there stats? are they better then yours? Are you losing fights. Even if you are thinking this improve on what you have you can never have enough.

    The same person keeps attacking me how can i make them stop
    One way... DO NOT ATTACK THEM BACK doing this will give them a direct link back to your wall be careful who you attack you give them links... i hate when people do it to me but if you spam there wall about 30 times it gets rid of the link if the guy is really annoying you and you want to get them back.

    Is Madhatter good.
    No he's some trolling noob who is about 10 never listen to him.

    How many M4A1's should i farm.
    400ISH by then you should have at least 100 better items.

    How to spend skills points?
    do what you wish there yours. mine I've spent most on attack and defence and stamia I'm not a energy man as no matter how many you have they come back at the same rate depends on how often you play my 570 does me fine.
    How do i improve my

    Im still working on it this is it for now... thoughts on it guys?
    Last edited by Popeye The Sailor Man; 12-05-2011 at 01:40 PM.
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    Jobs completed:1598 Fights won:5675 Fights lost: 126
    Robberies won: 1645 Robberies lost: 5 mafia members: 264
    mafia attack:7958 mafia defence: 12209
    income per hour: 36654
    MW Add me 713 602 528
    Level 7
    Jobs completed:18 Fights won:181 Fights lost: 12
    Raids won:10 raids lost: 3 alliance members: 3
    Total attack: 49 Total defence: 110
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    Last edited by Popeye The Sailor Man; 12-05-2011 at 01:44 PM.
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    Jobs completed:1598 Fights won:5675 Fights lost: 126
    Robberies won: 1645 Robberies lost: 5 mafia members: 264
    mafia attack:7958 mafia defence: 12209
    income per hour: 36654
    MW Add me 713 602 528
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    Jobs completed:18 Fights won:181 Fights lost: 12
    Raids won:10 raids lost: 3 alliance members: 3
    Total attack: 49 Total defence: 110
    income per hour:30433
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    Last edited by Popeye The Sailor Man; 10-31-2011 at 06:46 PM.
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    Level 68
    Jobs completed:1598 Fights won:5675 Fights lost: 126
    Robberies won: 1645 Robberies lost: 5 mafia members: 264
    mafia attack:7958 mafia defence: 12209
    income per hour: 36654
    MW Add me 713 602 528
    Level 7
    Jobs completed:18 Fights won:181 Fights lost: 12
    Raids won:10 raids lost: 3 alliance members: 3
    Total attack: 49 Total defence: 110
    income per hour:30433
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    Fifth post.



    (just kidding)



    thanks! this is the second player initiated "how to" guide posted today. i'm looking forward to reading your subsequent posts. btw, do you mind telling us your stats?
    Last edited by whocareswhatmynameis; 10-31-2011 at 06:43 PM.
    (updated mar 16 2012)
    CrimeCity: joined 176 days ago; lvl: 124; size: 695; att/def: 25875/31785; $238,993/hr; qwikster --- 783 445 600

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    Sixth Post

    Yes where is the manta ray?

    I got to find a replacement for my junkers!

    Duke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke.0 View Post
    Sixth Post

    Yes where is the manta ray?

    I got to find a replacement for my junkers!
    manta ray you can get from completing a goal not sure which one

    Quote Originally Posted by whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    Fifth post.



    (just kidding)



    thanks! this is the second player initiated "how to" guide posted today. i'm looking forward to reading your subsequent posts. btw, do you mind telling us your stats?
    Quote Originally Posted by whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    Fifth post.



    (just kidding)



    thanks! this is the second player initiated "how to" guide posted today. i'm looking forward to reading your subsequent posts. btw, do you mind telling us your stats?
    Jobs completed: 671
    fights won: 4049
    fights lost: 117
    robberies won: 1438
    robberies lost: 3 (misclicks)

    # of mafia members: 150
    # of weapons: 664
    # of armour: 306
    total mafia attack: 4119
    total mafia defence: 6006
    income per hour: 16,000 (deleted my Laundromat today)
    CC Add Me 135 996 695
    Level 68
    Jobs completed:1598 Fights won:5675 Fights lost: 126
    Robberies won: 1645 Robberies lost: 5 mafia members: 264
    mafia attack:7958 mafia defence: 12209
    income per hour: 36654
    MW Add me 713 602 528
    Level 7
    Jobs completed:18 Fights won:181 Fights lost: 12
    Raids won:10 raids lost: 3 alliance members: 3
    Total attack: 49 Total defence: 110
    income per hour:30433
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    http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...Advanced-Guide

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    @Popeye: impressive stats, especially your defense!

    2 quick questions:
    1) with an almost impregnable defense, do you use the bank?
    2) what defense buildings do you recommend? (i saw you briefly mentioned defense buildings but didn't go into details). the reason i'm asking is i'm thinking of replacing my abandoned buildings with gatling gun so that i may free up some space for income buildings.
    (updated mar 16 2012)
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    ModernWar: AWOL

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    Your comment on the uselessness of tommy gun and combat boots .... uhm ... not really correct. Of course at your level and my level there are different views.

    tommy gun (100 respect points) v.s sniper rifle ($150,000) - actually $150,000 much hard to earn than 100 respect points. if you attack people a lot, every day you could earn 1000 respect points. $150,000 unless your hood is large with 10,20 level 10 money buildings. Collecting $150,000 / day is a pain.

    I don't say tommy gun is useful (since I only have 2 ) but sniper rifles ($150,000) there is no way (but cheat) to buy 100 such items at level 50-60. But you can easily get 100 tommy guns at that level.

    * Compare combat boots (5 - 8) & Swat helmet (4 - 8): both useful at very beginning and become waste later. If you fight a lot 3 armors will come to you so often: boxing trunks (6 - 8), police armor (5 - 14) and wrester mask (4 -7), you don't need to buy any weaker armors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khung003 View Post
    Your comment on the uselessness of tommy gun and combat boots .... uhm ... not really correct. Of course at your level and my level there are different views.

    tommy gun (100 respect points) v.s sniper rifle ($150,000) - actually $150,000 much hard to earn than 100 respect points. if you attack people a lot, every day you could earn 1000 respect points. $150,000 unless your hood is large with 10,20 level 10 money buildings. Collecting $150,000 / day is a pain.

    I don't say tommy gun is useful (since I only have 2 ) but sniper rifles ($150,000) there is no way (but cheat) to buy 100 such items at level 50-60. But you can easily get 100 tommy guns at that level.

    * Compare combat boots (5 - 8) & Swat helmet (4 - 8): both useful at very beginning and become waste later. If you fight a lot 3 armors will come to you so often: boxing trunks (6 - 8), police armor (5 - 14) and wrester mask (4 -7), you don't need to buy any weaker armors.
    i see what your saying but you need a good economy to be able to compete in the long run.
    my way hopefully allows you to not spend any respect items on the lesser equipment and focus on the high level equipment such as the yamaha race bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    @Popeye: impressive stats, especially your defense!

    2 quick questions:
    1) with an almost impregnable defense, do you use the bank?
    2) what defense buildings do you recommend? (i saw you briefly mentioned defense buildings but didn't go into details). the reason i'm asking is i'm thinking of replacing my abandoned buildings with gatling gun so that i may free up some space for income buildings.
    My defence buildings are -
    10 Abandoned buildings level 7
    18 watch towers level 6
    4 thai boxing buildings level 4
    2 safe houses Defence level 5

    there the buildings i use, i too am thinking of downsizing the abandoned buildings for thai boxing things if I'm honest they seem the easiest to upgrade.

    I will only bank after i collect around 100k only because then i run the risk of getting hit for a lucky 10k
    Last edited by Popeye The Sailor Man; 10-31-2011 at 07:36 PM.
    CC Add Me 135 996 695
    Level 68
    Jobs completed:1598 Fights won:5675 Fights lost: 126
    Robberies won: 1645 Robberies lost: 5 mafia members: 264
    mafia attack:7958 mafia defence: 12209
    income per hour: 36654
    MW Add me 713 602 528
    Level 7
    Jobs completed:18 Fights won:181 Fights lost: 12
    Raids won:10 raids lost: 3 alliance members: 3
    Total attack: 49 Total defence: 110
    income per hour:30433
    CC guide
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    @popeye

    Defense buildings - When you make one, are you looking for overall defense, how fast it upgrades, cost or how large/small it is?

    What makes you decide to pick what you have for your defense buildings?

    I'm curious because a level 7 Guard Tower has 103 defense and it costs significantly less then getting 100 defense on a Thai boxing dojo, not saying your wrong, i'm just trying to get really good defense my self in my hood and nobody seems to have a clear strategy as to why they pick a certain building over another.

    Did you have a strategy? Your defense is awesome.

    Duke
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    my strategy is simple get as much defence as i can as fast as i can when i first started,
    now that I'm sitting pretty with my current defence and earning good amount of money I'm aiming for a defence of around 9000 then i will expand my mafia dramatically. to speed this up i will be building thai boxing dojo because currently when i expand my hood i have room for another 10 dojos making another 1000 defence available.

    its long but camping now will make me a great player in the long term its a shame you can't enjoy the game as much when you do it my way.
    CC Add Me 135 996 695
    Level 68
    Jobs completed:1598 Fights won:5675 Fights lost: 126
    Robberies won: 1645 Robberies lost: 5 mafia members: 264
    mafia attack:7958 mafia defence: 12209
    income per hour: 36654
    MW Add me 713 602 528
    Level 7
    Jobs completed:18 Fights won:181 Fights lost: 12
    Raids won:10 raids lost: 3 alliance members: 3
    Total attack: 49 Total defence: 110
    income per hour:30433
    CC guide
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    I like the idea of picking Tycoon. One huge mistake I made was choosing Enforcer. Waiting for gold to go 20 percent off again so I can become goodfella

    Edit: emailed mobile@funzio.com and stated my case repectfully. Guess what? they changed me to a Tycoon from an Enforcer. Those of you who will try this. When you email them; be respectful, address the issue. No need to tell the developers that they have food on their table because of you blah blah blah etc. lol. Just be nice, sound educated and things will turn out for the best.
    Last edited by phantom123; 11-05-2011 at 12:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom123 View Post
    I like the idea of picking Tycoon. One huge mistake I made. Waiting for gold to go 20 percent off again so I can become goodfella
    I'm a Goodfella, it is a waste of good gold, just stick to being a Tycoon.

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    I meant to say I didn't pick tycoon. I picked enforcer lol

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