At what point....

[Max Power]

......can people many levels above you attack you? I am at level 59 and do not want to go to 60 if that's where it starts.

[corpsegrinder]

I'm at lvl 78 and this just started happening to me. You're safe for a while. A few days ago I started getting attacked by lvls 95 to 115. Dont know how I'm on their rival list. Their not on mine

[KronicK]

yeah, around 78-> 85( my current level)

[Mb Tnk]

At some level point (wish I knew when that was), the number of mafia you have will dictate who from above you will see you. I guess it all comes down to how many players there are on each level, and to keep it interesting for the level 100+ players.

What I would like to know is, is this a SET level or does it change based on the number of active players in the high range?

[xclusiv]

it starts at around 80, when you hit 90 then you will be so angry, when half your list is 120 - 200 level, but the good thing is they dont really bother you unless you attack them alot and still they dont usually attack you much

[khung003]

below level 70, the rival list show strictly follow current level.
above 70 the rival list expand.
in 70s i see +/- 5 levels
80s +/- 10 levels
90s +/- 15 levels
and so on.

that's why they, higher levels, see you.

Note: there are some exceptions for seeing people at higher levels than you, base on your strength. I attacked level 120 - 200 since 80s so it depends on strength as well.

[Mb Tnk]

below level 70, the rival list show strictly follow current level.
above 70 the rival list expand.
in 70s i see +/- 5 levels
80s +/- 10 levels
90s +/- 15 levels
and so on.

that's why they, higher levels, see you.

Note: there are some exceptions for seeing people at higher levels than you, base on their strength. I attack level 120 - 200 since 80s so it depends on strength as well.

Good breakdown, thanks.

[Max Power]

Yep, very good info, thanks!

[Melvin Tan]

personally i think it has gotta do with the number of mafias size u have.
once i had 300 mafia, the enemy list i have, had players with high lvls and ard 400-420 size.
once i downgrade my mafia size to 230, those high lvl players are less seen.
i'm at 101 now and on my enemy list, 90% are ranging from lvl 7x to 9x, mafia size ranging from 200 to 350

[whocareswhatmynameis]

personally i think it has gotta do with the number of mafias size u have.
once i had 300 mafia, the enemy list i have, had players with high lvls and ard 400-420 size.
once i downgrade my mafia size to 230, those high lvl players are less seen.
i'm at 101 now and on my enemy list, 90% are ranging from lvl 7x to 9x, mafia size ranging from 200 to 350

good to know that downsizing is an effective strategy even at higher levels!

[Duke.0]

Ok so something i was just thinking about.

I just got 108 mafia total. I use full items in each fight (540 items)

What if...
I downsize to only get mafia to equip my top gear?
What would that do for me?
Example:

I have 9 x M4A1, 4x Bloody AK, 22xTommy Gun
What if i only had 34 mafia?

Would i just only be able to fight people with 34 mafia too?

[whocareswhatmynameis]

What if i only had 34 mafia? Would i just only be able to fight people with 34 mafia too?

Well not exactly, but close. 20s-40s range. For example, I have 65 mafia, my fight list has 50s-80s range.

As you just realized, it is not just enough to equip all your mafia. You have to equip them with the best weapons. For instance, I can equip 225 members with at least one gun, melee and armor. I choose not to do that because most of my weapons are crap-- pistol, broken bottle, trench coat, etc. And so, I keep a smaller mafia with most weaponry purchased by respect points.

[Duke.0]

Ok, that makes sense.

Lets see, the game registers what items it uses by "attack" values so i suppose i can figure out my ideal mafia size for the items i have based off some simple numbers.


Guns:
Total of 63 Guns over 7 attack, my top 50 is decent at my low level 43 for guns.

Melee:
Total of 31 melee over 4 attack (guess i need to work on melee items, these suck!)

Armor:
Total of 72 items over 6 defense. Looks like i got a good top 50 in armor

Cars:
Top 50 cars seem to be all above 3-4 attack too.

Perhaps my magic number for "strong" mafia is 50?

What do you think, should i drop from 108 mafia, to 50? i'm level 43

EDIT: I just dropped to 69 mafia and to my surprise, my attack /defense dropped too however, Not by a TON!

With 108 Mafia i had
2300 Attack
2400 Defense


Now i'm down to:
1965 Attack
2089 Defense

This means i'm using stronger equipment by All mafia members now. Which would, in the long run, provide me with a really strong mafia later on when im' level 100.

Hm...I might drop it down to 65 shortly to narrow down the equipment used and make me much stronger for the mafia size.

[whocareswhatmynameis]

I just dropped to 69 mafia and to my surprise, my attack /defense dropped too however, Not by a TON!

With 108 Mafia i had
2300 Attack
2400 Defense


Now i'm down to:
1965 Attack
2089 Defense

a rough estimate i use is 30 attack points for each mafia. that would translate to 69*30= 2070 attack points. you are getting close to the mark.

[Duke.0]

a rough estimate i use is 30 attack points for each mafia. that would translate to 69*30= 2070 attack points. you are getting close to the mark.

I dropped to 66 mafia (actually 65 the game added 1 henchmen for killing 22 people in a row)

66 *30 = 1980
Currently mine says 1940atk / 2072def

Hm...Where did you come up with 30atk/mafia member?

I just checked my "old" bigger mafia numbers, i was not near the 30atk/mafia. I was at 2400atk and when i did the math 108mafia*30 = 3240.....yeah...lots of poorly equipped mafia members.



Once you hit the mark, do you add 1 mafia member?


EDIT: I just took the reverse of what you did.
1940atk/66mafia = 29.393939 atk per mafia member

is the idea behind this to get above 30 atk per member you have in your mafia?
I look at my rivals, and some people are at 9.6, 15.2, 19.7.....seems everybody has under-equipped mafia if i go by your standard of 30atk per mafia member. (which seems to be working, i hardly ever loose a fight unless its to a gold rival.)