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    Hello Gree.

    As requested above, one step at a time and all, please reset Pidgeot's valor and IPH to zero. Thanks!


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    Bad idea after bad idea.....you really should work for GREE pidiot. A far more simple solution would be to limit the types of units you can have in your army. X amount of loot/reward/non-purchasable units, y amount of valor, and z amount of cash. 50%, 25%, 25% say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tee View Post
    Hello Gree.

    As requested above, one step at a time and all, please reset Pidgeot's valor and IPH to zero. Thanks!

    +1, best idea to date... And most feasable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tee View Post
    Hello Gree.

    As requested above, one step at a time and all, please reset Pidgeot's valor and IPH to zero. Thanks!

    Yes an outstanding solution.
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    I don't want to have cash on my account, but I have nothing to spend it on. What is raising the amount someone can raid going to change the fact that there is absolutely nothing to buy in this game anymore. Even with upgrading my buildings to 20 I have so much excess cash it is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidgeot View Post
    Frontline is a IPH event. You simply cant substitute upgrading cash buildings for raiding. Its always been that way. The problem here is because of the cash glitch, people just dont feel they need to upgrade their cash building to improve IPH. Tell your faction to boost their IPH. I'm not counting you guys out but a lot of players are at a disadvantage because they worked to boost their IPH yet people have trillions of on hand cash due to the glitches. Maybe we dont completely reset it but put everyones on hand cash to like 1 billion or so. If your faction cant afford gunners because of it then so be it, you have the tanks. The problem will fix itself and players will upgrade what they feel is needed.
    I think you may be missing the point on why most are no longer upgrading cash buildings... it's primarily bcos of the lack of Boost prizes and the new boost buildings that now go to lvl 20. I haven't upgraded a cash building besides the LTB for months now. I have been working hard on the boost buildings and I know a lot of others are doing the same thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidgeot View Post
    Frontline is a IPH event. You simply cant substitute upgrading cash buildings for raiding. Its always been that way. The problem here is because of the cash glitch, people just dont feel they need to upgrade their cash building to improve IPH. Tell your faction to boost their IPH. I'm not counting you guys out but a lot of players are at a disadvantage because they worked to boost their IPH yet people have trillions of on hand cash due to the glitches. Maybe we dont completely reset it but put everyones on hand cash to like 1 billion or so. If your faction cant afford gunners because of it then so be it, you have the tanks. The problem will fix itself and players will upgrade what they feel is needed.
    Agreed, Frontline is an iph event. But thousands of players still can only upgrade one, maybe two buildings at a time. So raiding is still a HUGE part of building cash for the event and upgrades. And with only one or two upgrades at once, iph doesn't build as fast as it would for those of us that have played for a while, or at a higher level. Your suggestion is made with good intent, but you have unintentionally disregarded the effect it would have on newer, lower level accounts. Just my two cents....

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    Quote Originally Posted by What? View Post
    I don't want to have cash on my account, but I have nothing to spend it on. What is raising the amount someone can raid going to change the fact that there is absolutely nothing to buy in this game anymore. Even with upgrading my buildings to 20 I have so much excess cash it is ridiculous.
    The "cash" has another purpose than what what a person might believe.
    The "cash" serves to distract the uninformed.
    Put a lot of stuff you call "cash" into play and the distraction is very useful.
    It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEWIN NUTTIN View Post
    The "cash" has another purpose than what what a person might believe.
    The "cash" serves to distract the uninformed.
    Put a lot of stuff you call "cash" into play and the distraction is very useful.
    Hard to believe that gree are 'clever' enough to mirror world economics..... And yet there is a whiff of something meandering through the halls...
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    Quote Originally Posted by What? View Post
    I don't want to have cash on my account, but I have nothing to spend it on. What is raising the amount someone can raid going to change the fact that there is absolutely nothing to buy in this game anymore. Even with upgrading my buildings to 20 I have so much excess cash it is ridiculous.
    Yes that is true but lots of players have glitched cash on hand and just spend it as needed though they dont have the IPH to have such cash. As someone else said the issue is max number of upgrades one can make. If you have LV 20 buildings then congrats, you earned the right to have billions or trillions on hand cash and it will set you apart from someone with 300k IPH during frontline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumas View Post
    I think you may be missing the point on why most are no longer upgrading cash buildings... it's primarily bcos of the lack of Boost prizes and the new boost buildings that now go to lvl 20. I haven't upgraded a cash building besides the LTB for months now. I have been working hard on the boost buildings and I know a lot of others are doing the same thing...
    Yes, I did not factor in max building upgrades players may have but I hear if players can watch gold videos, they can get a max of 40 gold a day. The Upgrade Specialist is still in the store so thats 3 to 4 days worth of saving from grinding. I do think GREE needs to make the max number of upgrades a account should be able to make from the start as two buildings at a time. It would be 3 with the unit from the store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidgeot View Post
    Yes that is true but lots of players have glitched cash on hand and just spend it as needed though they dont have the IPH to have such cash. As someone else said the issue is max number of upgrades one can make. If you have LV 20 buildings then congrats, you earned the right to have billions or trillions on hand cash and it will set you apart from someone with 300k IPH during frontline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB5 View Post
    Agreed, Frontline is an iph event. But thousands of players still can only upgrade one, maybe two buildings at a time. So raiding is still a HUGE part of building cash for the event and upgrades. And with only one or two upgrades at once, iph doesn't build as fast as it would for those of us that have played for a while, or at a higher level. Your suggestion is made with good intent, but you have unintentionally disregarded the effect it would have on newer, lower level accounts. Just my two cents....
    New accounts are always behind. I believe the best way to do this is change the core basics of the game, i.e. all accounts can upgrade 2 buildings at a time without boost and provide ways to get into the game quickly. Perhaps give those players making new accounts like 250 gold. I know they still have to raid but they still have to build IPH no matter how new or old the account is. With this cash glitch, people just took away the need to upgrade cash buildings.

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    Resetting these amounts is only tackling the symptoms, not the core problem. The problem is that the MW economy is not functioning properly.

    There is not enough entropy in the MW economy, which allows the total amount of cash on hand to grow somewhat linearly without limit as people upgrade their IPH buildings and as the top 1% have massive IPH and virtually no cash outflow.

    The fix I proposed in this thread would be a very good way to fix the problem and would drastically reduce the amount of cash on hand in the MW economy without having to hit a hard reset button.

    The various points in my idea all touch on introducing a higher level of entropy in the economy which would quickly set to balance the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidgeot View Post
    Frontline is a IPH event. You simply cant substitute upgrading cash buildings for raiding. Its always been that way. The problem here is because of the cash glitch, people just dont feel they need to upgrade their cash building to improve IPH. Tell your faction to boost their IPH. I'm not counting you guys out but a lot of players are at a disadvantage because they worked to boost their IPH yet people have trillions of on hand cash due to the glitches. Maybe we dont completely reset it but put everyones on hand cash to like 1 billion or so. If your faction cant afford gunners because of it then so be it, you have the tanks. The problem will fix itself and players will upgrade what they feel is needed.
    LMAO!! You want things fixed for YOU and you don't care about anyone else.

    I don't want gree to touch my IPH, my cash or my valor. I'm not in a top 10 faction and I don't wanna be. I'm happy where I am and with what I have.

    So, you don't speak for me and I doubt you speak for the community.

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