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    Complete Cash and Valor Reset. Would it Work?

    Modern War is a game that will go to extremes, as we all have seen. As of now, In-game Cash is useless. Outside of frontline, there is no use for it. I dont include because most who have large IPHs can make any upgrade. Even those with weaker IPHs can make most upgrades and buy new LTBs ( I mean the good ones). Players dont raid or attack others unless they are doing it for BP farming.

    To me, the way to fix this is to just put out a code that resets all players cash to 0 or something under 1 billion. This would at least bring back the raiding aspect of the game for a lot of players. I dont collect my cash building and left up my LV 13 AMRs for like a week and no one touched them. I know Im not the only players who dont care about collection times anymore.

    We could even introduce a new event where we have to raid and attack players for cash to finish goals. Something needs to be done. I would even argue raise the amount you can get from attacking a player to like 50m or a percentage of their on hand cash OR based on the player IPH, which would support my idea for a cash raiding event.

    While I dont feel valor is as big a deal but it has little use as well. Its nice we can buy raid boss folders with valor now but thats it. Maybe we dont completely drain it but it would be nice to see some new buildings we can buy with cash, gold OR valor. Maybe some new faction stuff that has to deal with valor.

    What do you guys think.

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    The majority don't care anymore

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    No, you can't remove what people paid real world money for. The solution is another currency that allows you to buy special items. But you have to inform the community 2 plus months in advance or it will fall on its head like soldier equipment did. Also you make the new items for a few events not all. Don't mess with things that work (we seen what happened when they messed with the working raidboss formula). Say you could purchase things like boosts to energy reduction requirement for iltqs n fltqs. Or make your faction points currency so you can buy new boosts for the faction.
    No, it's not what you think. It's much, much worse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bam bam. View Post
    No, you can't remove what people paid real world money for. The solution is another currency that allows you to buy special items. But you have to inform the community 2 plus months in advance or it will fall on its head like soldier equipment did. Also you make the new items for a few events not all. Don't mess with things that work (we seen what happened when they messed with the working raidboss formula). Say you could purchase things like boosts to energy reduction requirement for iltqs n fltqs. Or make your faction points currency so you can buy new boosts for the faction.
    Well, I suggest this as a one time thing to reverse the cash glitches. People with already high IPHs wont care since they can get the money again but there are many accounts out there with really low IPHs with trillions of on hand cash, which would not be possible.

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    I guess there is a certain group of players that forget that not everyone is in a top10 faction... us guys down at the middle area still have to fight for what we get...half my faction is raiding like crazy trying to buy gunners for FL. 2 FL's a cycle is a real killer for some of them... so when they just saved up their 3-5billion to buy gunners for FL, you just propose for gree to wipe that away... yep great suggestion!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumas View Post
    I guess there is a certain group of players that forget that not everyone is in a top10 faction... us guys down at the middle area still have to fight for what we get...half my faction is raiding like crazy trying to buy gunners for FL. 2 FL's a cycle is a real killer for some of them... so when they just saved up their 3-5billion to buy gunners for FL, you just propose for gree to wipe that away... yep great suggestion!!
    Frontline is a IPH event. You simply cant substitute upgrading cash buildings for raiding. Its always been that way. The problem here is because of the cash glitch, people just dont feel they need to upgrade their cash building to improve IPH. Tell your faction to boost their IPH. I'm not counting you guys out but a lot of players are at a disadvantage because they worked to boost their IPH yet people have trillions of on hand cash due to the glitches. Maybe we dont completely reset it but put everyones on hand cash to like 1 billion or so. If your faction cant afford gunners because of it then so be it, you have the tanks. The problem will fix itself and players will upgrade what they feel is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidgeot View Post
    Frontline is a IPH event. You simply cant substitute upgrading cash buildings for raiding. Its always been that way. The problem here is because of the cash glitch, people just dont feel they need to upgrade their cash building to improve IPH. Tell your faction to boost their IPH. I'm not counting you guys out but a lot of players are at a disadvantage because they worked to boost their IPH yet people have trillions of on hand cash due to the glitches. Maybe we dont completely reset it but put everyones on hand cash to like 1 billion or so. If your faction cant afford gunners because of it then so be it, you have the tanks. The problem will fix itself and players will upgrade what they feel is needed.
    I think you may be missing the point on why most are no longer upgrading cash buildings... it's primarily bcos of the lack of Boost prizes and the new boost buildings that now go to lvl 20. I haven't upgraded a cash building besides the LTB for months now. I have been working hard on the boost buildings and I know a lot of others are doing the same thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumas View Post
    I think you may be missing the point on why most are no longer upgrading cash buildings... it's primarily bcos of the lack of Boost prizes and the new boost buildings that now go to lvl 20. I haven't upgraded a cash building besides the LTB for months now. I have been working hard on the boost buildings and I know a lot of others are doing the same thing...
    Yes, I did not factor in max building upgrades players may have but I hear if players can watch gold videos, they can get a max of 40 gold a day. The Upgrade Specialist is still in the store so thats 3 to 4 days worth of saving from grinding. I do think GREE needs to make the max number of upgrades a account should be able to make from the start as two buildings at a time. It would be 3 with the unit from the store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidgeot View Post
    Frontline is a IPH event. You simply cant substitute upgrading cash buildings for raiding. Its always been that way. The problem here is because of the cash glitch, people just dont feel they need to upgrade their cash building to improve IPH. Tell your faction to boost their IPH. I'm not counting you guys out but a lot of players are at a disadvantage because they worked to boost their IPH yet people have trillions of on hand cash due to the glitches. Maybe we dont completely reset it but put everyones on hand cash to like 1 billion or so. If your faction cant afford gunners because of it then so be it, you have the tanks. The problem will fix itself and players will upgrade what they feel is needed.
    Agreed, Frontline is an iph event. But thousands of players still can only upgrade one, maybe two buildings at a time. So raiding is still a HUGE part of building cash for the event and upgrades. And with only one or two upgrades at once, iph doesn't build as fast as it would for those of us that have played for a while, or at a higher level. Your suggestion is made with good intent, but you have unintentionally disregarded the effect it would have on newer, lower level accounts. Just my two cents....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB5 View Post
    Agreed, Frontline is an iph event. But thousands of players still can only upgrade one, maybe two buildings at a time. So raiding is still a HUGE part of building cash for the event and upgrades. And with only one or two upgrades at once, iph doesn't build as fast as it would for those of us that have played for a while, or at a higher level. Your suggestion is made with good intent, but you have unintentionally disregarded the effect it would have on newer, lower level accounts. Just my two cents....
    New accounts are always behind. I believe the best way to do this is change the core basics of the game, i.e. all accounts can upgrade 2 buildings at a time without boost and provide ways to get into the game quickly. Perhaps give those players making new accounts like 250 gold. I know they still have to raid but they still have to build IPH no matter how new or old the account is. With this cash glitch, people just took away the need to upgrade cash buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidgeot View Post
    Frontline is a IPH event. You simply cant substitute upgrading cash buildings for raiding. Its always been that way. The problem here is because of the cash glitch, people just dont feel they need to upgrade their cash building to improve IPH. Tell your faction to boost their IPH. I'm not counting you guys out but a lot of players are at a disadvantage because they worked to boost their IPH yet people have trillions of on hand cash due to the glitches. Maybe we dont completely reset it but put everyones on hand cash to like 1 billion or so. If your faction cant afford gunners because of it then so be it, you have the tanks. The problem will fix itself and players will upgrade what they feel is needed.
    LMAO!! You want things fixed for YOU and you don't care about anyone else.

    I don't want gree to touch my IPH, my cash or my valor. I'm not in a top 10 faction and I don't wanna be. I'm happy where I am and with what I have.

    So, you don't speak for me and I doubt you speak for the community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezmunie View Post
    LMAO!! You want things fixed for YOU and you don't care about anyone else.

    I don't want gree to touch my IPH, my cash or my valor. I'm not in a top 10 faction and I don't wanna be. I'm happy where I am and with what I have.

    So, you don't speak for me and I doubt you speak for the community.
    I speak for the health of the game. I'm not in a top 10 faction and I care more about the game than most who want nothing done. All I here is " My IPH sucks and I dont want to lose my glitched cash and valor"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumas View Post
    I guess there is a certain group of players that forget that not everyone is in a top10 faction... us guys down at the middle area still have to fight for what we get...half my faction is raiding like crazy trying to buy gunners for FL. 2 FL's a cycle is a real killer for some of them... so when they just saved up their 3-5billion to buy gunners for FL, you just propose for gree to wipe that away... yep great suggestion!!
    Agreed. Also many factions are still buying those expensive bonuses. Leave the cash alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerDriller View Post
    Agreed. Also many factions are still buying those expensive bonuses. Leave the cash alone.
    that is part of issue with the reset NOT everyone was around during glitch or even knew about it til too late... same with all glitches so to do a game wide reset is to punish not only the players that did milk the glitch but punishes those that did nothing. I am sure it is hard for some to believe but there are actually a lot of players out of the loop that don't hear about stuff til its over or posted on forum.. and if its on forum its been patched or will be VERY soon. besides mw has too many issues and although in game cash value is one of them.. more pressing issues like the stat inflation. would take not just one fix to save them game but a few directly affecting cash value,stats , bonuses, and faction bonuses as well.. unless all are addressed its just a bandaid that will get bled threw

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    Quote Originally Posted by good gawd noooo View Post
    that is part of issue with the reset NOT everyone was around during glitch or even knew about it til too late... same with all glitches so to do a game wide reset is to punish not only the players that did milk the glitch but punishes those that did nothing. I am sure it is hard for some to believe but there are actually a lot of players out of the loop that don't hear about stuff til its over or posted on forum.. and if its on forum its been patched or will be VERY soon. besides mw has too many issues and although in game cash value is one of them.. more pressing issues like the stat inflation. would take not just one fix to save them game but a few directly affecting cash value,stats , bonuses, and faction bonuses as well.. unless all are addressed its just a bandaid that will get bled threw
    True but GREE can run a script that removes cash gain from those glitches, as seen with the removal of valor. GREE may need to suck it up and release new limited time cash and frontline units.

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