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    Quote Originally Posted by Weasel View Post
    This was as good a move as eliminating tiers for epic bosses. Well played, Gree!
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    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja☆Smoke View Post
    ...changes were made based off complaints from less then 3% of the Crime City community comments.
    Where did you get your info?
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    He made it up, obviously. 99% of all statistics on the internet are made up.
    Quote Originally Posted by murf View Post
    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    Why are the players who have played for years so angry at the newer players. Is that you've given up being angry at Gree so your targets become the new players? To think that only 20 players getting a loot item on a level 100 is fair then what do you think of your other 40 members. The minimum damage for a loot item should be the health of the level boss divided by 60, wouldn't be that be better for the whole syndicate not a select few?

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    Who's angry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roc1720 View Post
    Why are the players who have played for years so angry at the newer players. Is that you've given up being angry at Gree so your targets become the new players? To think that only 20 players getting a loot item on a level 100 is fair then what do you think of your other 40 members. The minimum damage for a loot item should be the health of the level boss divided by 60, wouldn't be that be better for the whole syndicate not a select few?
    The concept of rolling teams of 20 inside syndicates who can take it in turn to knock down bosses obviously hasn't occurred to you.

    And no, long time players aren't angry at newer players, just at the inequitable treatment that has discriminated against those on higher levels for too long.
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    It's not a matter at being "angry at newer players." I've just been pointing out for years now how stupid it is to design a game that actively penalizes you for playing it. New players can't complete every goal. That's to be expected. If you play World of Warcraft, do you expect to clear every raid at level 5? Of course not... part of the game is playing the low level goals and leveling up until you can eventually clear the higher goals.

    In Crime City, the standard has been that a level 5 player gets to complete everything for free with no challenge at all and a level 250 player has to pay a vault of gold for the exact same prizes. It's never made sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by murf View Post
    Dippy, may be a little harsh in this thread, but he's right...
    Still mad at Bostick.

    I'll be back when the moderation is reasonable. Enjoy the forum you created, Gree.

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    How can old players be mad at the newer players when in most cases they ARE the new players?

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    Smurfs and minis, the progression of video games...

    I don't think this increase for personal is bad at all. FA only!

    I like the idea of organizing it with your syndicate instead of everyone jumping around willy nilly everywhere.
    Last edited by Winnson; 04-24-2015 at 10:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sister morphine View Post
    The concept of rolling teams of 20 inside syndicates who can take it in turn to knock down bosses obviously hasn't occurred to you.

    And no, long time players aren't angry at newer players, just at the inequitable treatment that has discriminated against those on higher levels for too long.
    Yes I did think of that and that works for top crews but for lower ranked crews only a few accounts can hit minimum using an FA or two. My crew will be able to finish this raid boss but during the march of 100s only two accounts will be able to meet the minimum, to me that takes away from the team concept.

    And yes its not right that low levels have certain advantages compared to older accounts but that's been the design of the game since its creation. Accounts that are high level now where once low levels that took advantage of being lower in level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipstik View Post
    He made it up, obviously. 99% of all statistics on the internet are made up.
    It's actually 78%

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    I'm a older player, So the changes are an Extra Q.A on most bosses for me...that being said Gree backed alot of Players into a corner with previous changes to Raidboss. So they farmed 100s, so What I don't understand is why change minimum damage now? It's been 3 cycles of farming 100s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roc1720 View Post
    Accounts that are high level now where once low levels that took advantage of being lower in level.
    Not really. Accounts don't get much older than mine. I started playing a couple of weeks after it launched in America, and I have never had the advantage of being low level. That is why I have 3 newer accounts.

    I could be wrong, but I think most high level customers are old accts or battle a lot from being in a top-ranking syndicate. PvP has huge XP gains, fastest way to level up.
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    I cleared maps for the extra skill point, followed the questlines, had 1 click jobs turned on, and the only thing I was thinking was 'Gotta get to those Casinos, how the heck will I ever afford them??'.

    It was a different time when I was low level, plus I am really really dumb.

    People only wizened me up at lvl 129 after I'd joined a decent syndicate and was the #1 brick donator of all time within a week and 10 levels higher. Derp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipstik View Post
    In Crime City, the standard has been that a level 5 player gets to complete everything for free with no challenge at all and a level 250 player has to pay a vault of gold for the exact same prizes. It's never made sense.
    (emphasis mine)

    You mean like LTQs, SLTQs and LTBs? Yeah, new players have always been able knock those out in no time with all that energy and money they start out with.

    I'm not arguing about the EB, which clearly favored the newer players. But to say that every event favored newer players is a bit of a stretch.

    Side note - how much do you want to bet that the developers meant to make the minimums 0.5% of the boss health but miscalculated and made it 5%? Supposition on my part, but I wish a developer could confirm it. Or maybe they really want only 20 items (realistically 19) at most dropped with every boss...

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