Why is everyone trying to put this on Gree? If you have a problem with VAT talk to your government. If you have a problem with conversion rates take an economics class.
Why is everyone trying to put this on Gree? If you have a problem with VAT talk to your government. If you have a problem with conversion rates take an economics class.
Do you have change for my 2 cents?
This change is across apple app world so it forces players to choose between app games. This is not only game app hearing the cries of outrage.
As USD continues it's climb vs other currencies expect more apple and google adjustments. Although apple has built in a profit with this increase in anticipation of further increases. Apple just announced expecting $25 B in app sales this year and strongest start in app sas sales ever so far.
Take it up with apple. When one or both distributors ratchet up their prices both players and suppliers dependent on distributor get squeezed. Is what it is
Exactly. Your problem u voted for goons that depend on your taxes for their salary. Fx figure out in class or go work for an international company
The only fall out for gree is they need to be more responsive and less sloppy in execution with game as less game money means tougher choices. Gree isn't the best game app developer
I think everyone realises that Apple has caused this problem but unfortunately Gree is the only one who can do anything about it.
They need to lower the baseline prices of gold so it's equal for all countries on all devices.
Otherwise they'll lose a lot of their active gold spending accounts in the EU & Canada.
This game has already become too costly for the amount of enjoyment a moderate/high gold spending player gets from the game these days.
To maintain playing in a top team in this game has become more of a chore than a bit of fun and now we've got to pay more for it and it's going to last two days longer.
It's all downhill from here for Crime City. New players will have to spend a fortune to catch up to be able to compete and the long term players are quitting because of burnout and the constant rising cost to play at the top level.
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Financial District Fallout >FC's unbeaten reign came to an end in a fair fight against SAS on 18/11/13.
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Value added tax (VAT) is known in Canada as Goods and Services Tax (GST). It was introduced in 1991 at a rate of 7% and has since been lowered to 5%.
The change in Canada has nothing to do with our government, and everything to do with exchange rates. Which is quite greedy of Apple, really, considering at no point have they ever lowered prices when the Canadian Dollar was above par with the US Dollar. In fact, this is the first time in the history of the Canadian App Store that Apple has increased prices.
While none of that has anything to do with Gree, unless Android app stores follow suit Gree will have to take some form of measures to ensure a level playing field that shows no preference to any platform.
That's impossible bill. How do u do that? Does Mercedes, ford or Toyota set an universal list price adjusted for country currency fluctuation? Nope. Besides apple does not allow for this. U set price in USD and it falls wherever it falls in The host country. Apple and google take the risk or benefit of any currency changes
I found this article to be concise and informative:
http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...prices-iceland
As mentioned, Gree can do nothing about the cost of gold on a country by country basis. They choose one tier of pricing, and it automatically translates to each country's appropriate currency as per what Apple has defined. Gree could lower the base cost of gold but that doesn't accomplish anything, the gap will still exist between those affected by this new law and everyone else.
the article seems to imply it's more about VAT and less about exchange rates. That makes sense, as right now $100USD (standard price of a vault) ~= £66 According to a syndicate mate in the UK the price of a vault went from £70 to £92, so it's clearly unrelated to exchange rates. It's merely the greed of the various governments involved taking money off the top via VAT. Unfortunately the inconsistency was created because this wasn't done at a global level (in the US for example, we don't pay tax on digital content like this, however considering the government revenue this will generate it's hard to imagine that other governments aren't far behind.
Last edited by Fredfreddy; 01-08-2015 at 11:42 PM.
Does anyone really care about any of this VAT, GST, exchange rate non sense? All that really matters is that both platforms are priced equally. Whatever the price is, is just that. Whatever it is. Google/Amazon follow suit with Apple and everything is back to the way it was.
Actually it does matter. If you live in a country where the government levies tax on digital content it can make a big difference compared to those that don't. Even more so if the sales tax (whatever it's name might be) is at a high rate. Across the EU around 20% is the norm. In the US, which doesn't yet tax on digital content it's below 10% on average I believe. A volatile currency market doesn't help either; you can bet that if other currencies rise against the dollar (as they will at some point) the prices in those nations will not come down to reflect that new reality.
Last edited by sister morphine; 01-09-2015 at 12:39 AM.
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Your price for almost anything will be different than the cost of the same item some place else in the world. That's not a new concept. The only thing that really matters here is that two people using the same product, in the same room, but on two different platforms, won't see different prices just because of the device they are using.
True, but when you buy a car, or a tv, or a camera, or any number of consumer items you're using it in isolation. This is a single worldwide game and now some players are going to be paying not just a few pennies extra or fewer for gold but considerably more. That's simply unsustainable. I don't know whether players from Canada could simply drive south of the border whenever they wanted to buy gold and get it at US prices - probably not, but that isn't an option for EU based players.
So far as Europe is concerned the blame isn't really with Apple but a change in EU law which means companies must now collect and pay VAT at point of sale rather than where their HQ is - in Apple's case Luxembourg. That means their accountants now have to audit separately for 28 different nations, each with their own internal tax rules. A massive increase in the cost of doing business in Europe, which is being passed on to consumers rather than being absorbed as was in the past.
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Just move the the US, problem solved.
Price changed but still more than it was