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    Mafia ATK, DEF and Kingpin Power are useless now

    ATK 300M vs 161M
    Accomplices is 6 vs 15
    Kingpin Power 53 vs 16
    I still lost the fight.

    Prizes of war, RB, RB and LTB are totally useless now.
    more than 3 years hard working=nothing
    I guess Gree is trying to force old players to quit playing cc now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobcnn View Post
    ATK 300M vs 161M
    Accomplices is 6 vs 15
    Kingpin Power 53 vs 16
    I still lost the fight.

    Prizes of war, RB, RB and LTB are totally useless now.
    more than 3 years hard working=nothing
    I guess Gree is trying to force old players to quit playing cc now.
    It must be because they suspect us long time players are running out of money or are wise to their game. They now need to suck in a new generation of mugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobcnn View Post
    ATK 300M vs 161M
    Accomplices is 6 vs 15
    Kingpin Power 53 vs 16
    I still lost the fight.

    Prizes of war, RB, RB and LTB are totally useless now.
    more than 3 years hard working=nothing
    I guess Gree is trying to force old players to quit playing⅝ cc now.
    I am no where as big as you but still believe I should of won with these stats!
    22.95m vs 13.05m
    97 vs 24
    54 vs 11

    Why did I lose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobcnn View Post
    ATK 300M vs 161M
    Accomplices is 6 vs 15
    Kingpin Power 53 vs 16
    I still lost the fight.

    Prizes of war, RB, RB and LTB are totally useless now.
    more than 3 years hard working=nothing
    I guess Gree is trying to force old players to quit playing cc now.
    Quote Originally Posted by RAMNUTS View Post
    I am no where as big as you but still believe I should of won with these stats!
    22.95m vs 13.05m
    97 vs 24
    54 vs 11

    Why did I lose?
    Difficult to say with any clarity on those, but stats are still the biggest element. Neither of you has attack double your rival's defence (close but no cigar in bob's case), so their attack vs your defence comes into play. On another day both of you might have won but that's the algorithim for you.

    Bob lost in accomplices and the margin in kingpin isn't the decisive margin I mentioned in the thread started by Winnsone (page 2)
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    Another issue not discussed often is the points folks are assigning to their attack and defense skills. I've seen some really 'strong' accounts with under 20 points assigned to the attack skill. I think this may be coming back to haunt those that didn't spread out their skill points, but assigned them all to energy/stamina.
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    Skill points don't factor in yet. They are waiting till they allow for a skill reset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sister morphine View Post
    Difficult to say with any clarity on those, but stats are still the biggest element. Neither of you has attack double your rival's defence (close but no cigar in bob's case), so their attack vs your defence comes into play. On another day both of you might have won but that's the algorithim for you.

    Bob lost in accomplices and the margin in kingpin isn't the decisive margin I mentioned in the thread started by Winnsone (page 2)
    simple math
    Accomplices 6 vs 15= -9 accomplices
    -9 accomplices is stronger than 139M ATK plus 37 Kingpin Power
    1 accomplices must be stronger than 15.4M plus 4.1 Kingpin Power

    If you did not assign any kingpin, it is very easy to get at least 30 accomplices from last box event.
    30 accomplices is stronger than 15.4MX30=462M ATK plus 4.1x30=123 kiingpin power
    So kingpin power is useless since complices is 4x more stronger than kingpin power.
    Can anyone get 462M ATK from prizes of this war?
    If not, why should we fight for the rank and win streak anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xRedfoxx View Post
    Another issue not discussed often is the points folks are assigning to their attack and defense skills. I've seen some really 'strong' accounts with under 20 points assigned to the attack skill. I think this may be coming back to haunt those that didn't spread out their skill points, but assigned them all to energy/stamina.
    My ATK skill pts is 208.

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    Last box event only has 4 accomplices. At 3, 7, & 9 item on 10 item goal. & 1 for 8/8 item goal

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    during war i attacked someone and my mafia was the same as theirs , my attack was higher, my accomplices was higher by alot and my kingpin was higher . guess what i still lost even though i won by 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimberleyj View Post
    during war i attacked someone and my mafia was the same as theirs , my attack was higher, my accomplices was higher by alot and my kingpin was higher . guess what i still lost even though i lost by 100%.
    fixed that for you based off of gree's "improved" math/

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    fix this now ..


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    I feel like Bring Your Kid To Work Day at the GREE offices have seriously gone awry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajones View Post
    Last box event only has 4 accomplices. At 3, 7, & 9 item on 10 item goal. & 1 for 8/8 item goal
    I mean 30 atk pts of accomplices. actually, atk of item 3 plus item 7 on last box event should be around 50 pts.
    15.4Mx50=770M for one box event.
    We finished as a top 30 team for last war and my atk was incresed from 300M to 305M.
    Only 5M atk for one war but 770M for 7th box.
    We were getting almost nothing for playing hard and spending gold on war.

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    you also beat your rival in number of mafia members.

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