Known Issues With The New CC Update

[Morgz]

Can you explain how a player attack and defense added together is 200mill less than my attack and I still lose?
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This is a perfect example of how this either has to be a huge mistake, or some very detailed explanation needs to happen. I understand they are saying there is a new way of calculating pvp battles, but as it stands now, they have pretty much ended PVP for now. No one in either of the syns I play in is currently even attempting to rob or attack, and judging from talk on Line and Kakao, that's pretty much consensus across the board. Very few are robbing / attacking with this new system because it makes no sense with regards to what we are used to, and no one really understands how it does work.

[-Batman-]

This is a perfect example of how this either has to be a huge mistake, or some very detailed explanation needs to happen. I understand they are saying there is a new way of calculating pvp battles, but as it stands now, they have pretty much ended PVP for now. No one in either of the syns I play in is currently even attempting to rob or attack, and judging from talk on Line and Kakao, that's pretty much consensus across the board. Very few are robbing / attacking with this new system because it makes no sense with regards to what we are used to, and no one really understands how it does work.

its the same in my sync, players have built up characters for fighting and robbing and have invested high sums of real cash to get there stats up. And now they loose against players who have invested next to nothing into the game

[Max Power]

I seem to be getting robbed by the same cast of characters as always.

[SilentAssassin]

This is a perfect example of how this either has to be a huge mistake, or some very detailed explanation needs to happen. I understand they are saying there is a new way of calculating pvp battles, but as it stands now, they have pretty much ended PVP for now. No one in either of the syns I play in is currently even attempting to rob or attack, and judging from talk on Line and Kakao, that's pretty much consensus across the board. Very few are robbing / attacking with this new system because it makes no sense with regards to what we are used to, and no one really understands how it does work.

That specific example has the "-1" beside the accomplice defence for the defender
If you read in my original first post, I posted that issue was fixed and PVP is working slightly better now in relation to when that issue was abroad.

Robbing is still hard, but they did make it slighly easier now in relation to when they had that -1 up

[Weasel]

I seem to be getting robbed by the same cast of characters as always.

That's not really an issue with the new update then, now is it?

[Morgz]

That specific example has the "-1" beside the accomplice defence for the defender
If you read in my original first post, I posted that issue was fixed and PVP is working slightly better now in relation to when that issue was abroad.

Robbing is still hard, but they did make it slighly easier now in relation to when they had that -1 up

Yes I read your original post. I still think a much more detailed explanation is in order. It seems that you understand how works, and that's great. I do not, and neither do a lot of other folks. Yes, I see the "-1" by the defenders "DEF from accomplices assigned to enemy mafia". But I also see that "Kingpin power" for BOTH players is 1, and the attacker's mafia attack is tremendously larger than then defender's mafia defense. I also realize that both mafia attack and defense are now factored...but what I do not know, is how we are supposed to see any of this before robbing (maybe we aren't supposed to) and how we get the "-1" on our own profiles, and how to overcome (if possible) the "-1" on defender's stats.

I'm probably going to be fine with the change, but I think Gree has really failed us in implementing this system without proper explanation of how it all works. Again, it's great that you seem to understand. And maybe some others do too. But I'm telling you there is a vast majority of players that don't know what the heck is going on, and this has therefore killed a big aspect of the game, at least temporarily.

[cookamoo]

When I open a fellow syndicate member's profile under the members tab, their stats are all screwed up. What would normally be 220 mil attack, is showing 3000. Same for all other values. A few times it just showed the last individual I robbed profile, when I tried to view a syndicate member profile.

[Wardaddy]

Dear Gree,

Can you please answer my emails or Ticket or do something.

[cooch]

Yes I read your original post. I still think a much more detailed explanation is in order. It seems that you understand how works, and that's great. I do not, and neither do a lot of other folks. Yes, I see the "-1" by the defenders "DEF from accomplices assigned to enemy mafia". But I also see that "Kingpin power" for BOTH players is 1, and the attacker's mafia attack is tremendously larger than then defender's mafia defense. I also realize that both mafia attack and defense are now factored...but what I do not know, is how we are supposed to see any of this before robbing (maybe we aren't supposed to) and how we get the "-1" on our own profiles, and how to overcome (if possible) the "-1" on defender's stats.

I'm probably going to be fine with the change, but I think Gree has really failed us in implementing this system without proper explanation of how it all works. Again, it's great that you seem to understand. And maybe some others do too. But I'm telling you there is a vast majority of players that don't know what the heck is going on, and this has therefore killed a big aspect of the game, at least temporarily.

Beta testers have a better idea. Unless this wasn't beta tested. I doubt that

[triple OG]

That specific example has the "-1" beside the accomplice defence for the defender
If you read in my original first post, I posted that issue was fixed and PVP is working slightly better now in relation to when that issue was abroad.

Robbing is still hard, but they did make it slighly easier now in relation to when they had that -1 up

I don't believe that "the new system takes the attacker's attack and defense stats into consideration." Because if that was the case, how is it possible for someone whose total stats are weaker than my attack and I still lose... That's why I believe that they revamped the game play and put everyone on a even playing field, and that's it's base solely on your kingpin status and mafia alliance.

[CatDor]

I've said this already but I believe it's just your raw stats no mods now for pvp

[SilentAssassin]

I think this new system could be good as long as they loosen up the factor at which you can win a rob
A direct attack should be harder to do than a rob but players shouldn't be so defensively sound or it takes away the robbing aspect we all love

The system is what many players have asked for, to make Defense and stats in general relevant... But GREE has seemed to have gone slightly overboard
An adjustment needs to be made gree, in all platforms.
Your long term players on this forum know what we are talking about. Don't say that the system is fine if it's greatly disliked by the general population of players.

Do some tweaking and loosen up some parameters because if it does work as designed these parameters are too high

[cooch]

I think this new system could be good as long as they loosen up the factor at which you can win a rob
A direct attack should be harder to do than a rob but players shouldn't be so defensively sound or it takes away the robbing aspect we all love

The system is what many players have asked for, to make Defense and stats in general relevant... But GREE has seemed to have gone slightly overboard
An adjustment needs to be made gree, in all platforms.
Your long term players on this forum know what we are talking about. Don't say that the system is fine if it's greatly disliked by the general population of players.

Do some tweaking and loosen up some parameters because if it does work as designed these parameters are too high

Like I said will be an interesting war

[-Batman-]

Thought rivals list was roughly players with equal stats.
All I seem to be seeing in 100m to 400m def while my Attack is only 74m

[Weasel]

Thought rivals list was roughly players with equal stats.
All I seem to be seeing in 100m to 400m def while my Attack is only 74m

Seems that for some people's rivals list, Gree completely forgot about a little thing called stat modifiers.