Fantastic game gone bad

[Adm. J(K96)]

Dragco,
I've been a part of many forums over the years. Some where the mods were silent and just went about their job, and others where they were part of the daily talk. Both can be done without issue, but if you choose the latter it is extremely important to go beyond appearing impartial.
You've already done a lot of damage to yourself this weekend because everyone believes you to be just another Gree puppet spewing the Kool-aid. Everyone has been hearing for years "It's ok, it's being worked on. Don't worry" only to be totally lied to. You've now added yourself to the list of people lying, whether you meant to or not. Voting that Gree is making MW better just makes you look like a suck up as you've admitted to not even currently playing the game. Closing a thread for no apparent reason was another mistake. No matter what your true intentions are, you've very naively dug your self a credibility hole you may not be able to get out of.
I highly suggest that if you are going to comment, make sure you know what you are talking about. If you dont have definitive info, it's best to stay silent (which is what everyone should do anyway). Know the community before putting yourself out there. Be friendly, but don't try to be everyone's friend. Finally, know exactly what your responsibilities are, and dont try to over step them. Just my opinion.

[DragCro]

Dragco,
I've been a part of many forums over the years. Some where the mods were silent and just went about their job, and others where they were part of the daily talk. Both can be done without issue, but if you choose the latter it is extremely important to go beyond appearing impartial.
You've already done a lot of damage to yourself this weekend because everyone believes you to be just another Gree puppet spewing the Kool-aid. Everyone has been hearing for years "It's ok, it's being worked on. Don't worry" only to be totally lied to. You've now added yourself to the list of people lying, whether you meant to or not. Voting that Gree is making MW better just makes you look like a suck up as you've admitted to not even currently playing the game. Closing a thread for no apparent reason was another mistake. No matter what your true intentions are, you've very naively dug your self a credibility hole you may not be able to get out of.
I highly suggest that if you are going to comment, make sure you know what you are talking about. If you dont have definitive info, it's best to stay silent (which is what everyone should do anyway). Know the community before putting yourself out there. Be friendly, but don't try to be everyone's friend. Finally, know exactly what your responsibilities are, and dont try to over step them. Just my opinion.

I respect your opinion but I don't agree with everything you wrote as a reply to me.

First of all i didn't close recently any thread here,and if i close any thread it will be with a good reason.That claim you got it wrong.
The second thing is that if i post i post to try to calm down players because i respect each player and i don't want anybody to quit,we all have friends here and we don't want to lose them because of the game issues..

Im not trying to be a friend to everybody,im not in contest for mister sympathy, we are not here because of it,i'm here to help if i can..
I don't lie,I don't gain anything by lying.

I don't want to debate here about things that really doesnt mater to average player.
As i said if you don't like my post nobody is forcing you to read them.

[DragCro]

Adm J (K96)
As you see in this pic i didn't vote on your thread and i don't like that you are trying to make me a liar here in this forum.
Next time watch what are you claiming because i won't tolerate it and i will report you.
Enjoy the forum!

[AfterHours-Oliver]

Adm J (K96)
As you see in this pic i didn't vote on your thread and i don't like that you are trying to make me a liar here in this forum.
Next time watch what are you claiming because i won't tolerate it and i will report you.
Enjoy the forum!

None of this is helping anyone, to be honest.

The issue here revolves around the quality or otherwise of the product in it's current state. No amount of argument or counter argument is going to fix the problem, nor are accusations and sleighting of mods or players.

Perspectives I don't have a problem with as a vibrant forum needs to be objective and challenging without being personal, although I absolutely agree with Adm J in that mods have a role to keep us informed with facts and keep flaming and trolls away - there's more than enough speculation here already and if you have facts, please publish them verbatim for the benefit of all of us.

It may be that English is not your first language but some of the tone of some of your posts has a threatening tone which also doesn't help you, the players or Gree.

Can we get back on track discussing any new bugs and take any disagreements outside?

[Adm. J(K96)]

I respect your opinion but I don't agree with everything you wrote as a reply to me.

First of all i didn't close recently any thread here,and if i close any thread it will be with a good reason.That claim you got it wrong.

Yes you did. http://forums.gree.net/showthread.ph...96#post1416396

The second thing is that if i post i post to try to calm down players because i respect each player and i don't want anybody to quit,we all have friends here and we don't want to lose them because of the game issues.

Goes to understanding exactly what your responsibilities are. It's not your job to be sure everyone is happy and joyous and not leaving the game. While that may have been your intention, you should have explained that beforehand because the end result is that many now just view you as a Gree shill.

Im not trying to be a friend to everybody,im not in contest for mister sympathy, we are not here because of it,i'm here to help if i can..

Maybe, but you've provided no actual helpful advice. Goes to the points of keeping quiet if you dont have solid info (you don't), knowing your community (you don't), and knowing the games (you don't).

I don't lie,I don't gain anything by lying.

I specifically said it may have not been intentional. But you've done it twice now. See the comment above about not locking any threads.

I don't want to debate here about things that really doesnt mater to average player.

The average players are not the ones that frequent this forum. These are the things that matter to the players who DO frequent this forum.

As i said if you don't like my post nobody is forcing you to read them.

That's the crappiest thing I've ever heard out of any Mods mouth. That equates to telling people to ignore you. How the hell do you expect to moderate anything when you tell people it's ok to ignore you? Unbelievable.

[Rotsch]

[QUOTE=Adm. J(K96);1417027][QUOTE=DragCro;1417016]I respect your opinion but I don't agree with everything you wrote as a reply to me.

First of all i didn't close recently any thread here,and if i close any thread it will be with a good reason.That claim you got it wrong.[\quote] Yes you did. http://forums.gree.net/showthread.ph...96#post1416396

Goes to understanding exactly what your responsibilities are. While that may have been your intention, you should have explained that beforehand because the end result is that many now just view you as a Gree shill.

Maybe, but you've provided no actual helpful advice. Goes to the points of keeping quiet if you dont have solid info (you don't) and knowing your community (you don't), and knowing the games (you don't).
[QUOTE=DragCro;1417016]I don't lie,I don't gain anything by lying.[\quote] I specifically said it may have not been intentional. But you've done it twice now. See the comment above about not locking any threads.

I don't want to debate here about things that really doesnt mater to average player.[\quote] The average players are not the ones that frequent this forum. These are the things that matter to the players who DO frequent this forum.
That's the crappiest thing I've ever heard out of any Mods mouth. That equates to telling people to ignore you. How the hell do you expect to moderate anything when you tell people it's ok to ignore you? Unbelievable.

It's not everytime easy to give a positive input or idea. I wrote 3-4 times to Gree directly....and didn't get any response. Why always change the things? Since a few weeks with the deactivation of the buttons during raids an so, the game is very slow, doesn't run fluently and since a few days it needs a huge data volume (e.g. start the game, two hits and close the game needed 14.2mb of data). That way the game is not anymore gameable for players out of a wifi not having flat-rates. Also the raid boss events und raiding others base need huge data volume.

I like this game very much, because you can play with other guys together for the success. For me, it's one of the best games I plaied the last few years. But PLEASE, do anything against that huge data volume needs and the unfluently running.

Many thanks.

[DragCro]

Yes you did. http://forums.gree.net/showthread.ph...96#post1416396

Goes to understanding exactly what your responsibilities are. It's not your job to be sure everyone is happy and joyous and not leaving the game. While that may have been your intention, you should have explained that beforehand because the end result is that many now just view you as a Gree shill.

Maybe, but you've provided no actual helpful advice. Goes to the points of keeping quiet if you dont have solid info (you don't), knowing your community (you don't), and knowing the games (you don't).

I specifically said it may have not been intentional. But you've done it twice now. See the comment above about not locking any threads.

The average players are not the ones that frequent this forum. These are the things that matter to the players who DO frequent this forum.

That's the crappiest thing I've ever heard out of any Mods mouth. That equates to telling people to ignore you. How the hell do you expect to moderate anything when you tell people it's ok to ignore you? Unbelievable.

As i said your claims are not true and i am not here to debate or argue with you.
You have your opinion i have mine..
I readed most of your recent posts and frankly their are not constructive or helpful,it is easy to complain so please carry on you are good at it.
I finished the talk on this matter

[Adm. J(K96)]

Sure thing. Good luck bro, you are definitely going to need it.

[carl9764]

Jesus wish I did not say anything now sorry all

[Adm. J(K96)]

Don't be. I've found this thread to be very enlightening.

[carl9764]

Cheers just want the game back to some normality lol

[Adm. J(K96)]

That's all anybody wants Carl.

[Tadaaah]

Locking. Trolling/Flaming.