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Keep in mind that gold purchases are relative to IPH. Someone with an IPH of 30,000 can purchase 4mil+ in a single mountain. Combined with a 40% off sale, bonus program and deep pockets, several billion gold from one person is not inconceivable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johan -
just as a correction its about roughtly 120*IPH so the number for 4 mil in a single mountain is about 33k and change iph. Even still that 4 mill that means when guilds started (the last 40% sale was first war) $60 a mtn gold is 250 vaults (with no bonuses) so max spent is 15k to get a billion. So yes its conceivable however were humans we can get greater return with gems then gold by a lot and our own personal character will benefit greater with gem purchase. I feel fairly confident saying the 60 man guilds ARE not funded from gold purchases...although recognize they could be.
How can you have multiple accounts on one ipad? Is it possible?
For example, i'm guessing Iphone and Ipad in the house would yield two accounts. I'm not sure if the game works on an Itouch or other devices like Droids, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Engineer951
Based on what? How did you decide on this arbitrary number that divides legit from non-legit guilds?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johan -
You are implying that the top guild and others are widely using a gold hack (even though gold is server-side now). Do you have any proof of this happening in any guild?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johan -
What happened to IPH and attacking/raiding for gold? Many kingdoms in top guilds have 40k, 50k, even 60k+ IPH and can earn just as much or more through PVP. Do some math and you will see that 56 and 58 members are achievable in the time elapsed, without buying gold, when the top 100-200 kingdoms in the game are doing the donating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johan -
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it meansQuote:
Originally Posted by Johan -
But you just implied that FUN and other guilds are widely using a gold hack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johan -
Proof?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johan -
Entirely way to much speculation, theories, personal attitudes, beliefs and platitudes in this thread. Gold can be purchased. Guilds have been around long enough that unlocks could be legit. We know some are not. To categorically deny that ANY could be is pure conjecture.
There seems to be a lot of talk of the top guilds doing dodgy stuff here, I can not say that this is all true but i do remember that before the Guild wars started it was rumoured that The1nONLY had amassed over 100Million in gold before the fall out with the RK's that a big chunk of change and would give their Guild a big kick start and have most behind the 8 ball !, how long would it take me to amass that amount Months if not a year but i dont have Manors at level 10 or other buildings that high either, if these teams look or scout for the higher IPH it is possible that they may have put what they could into the Guild to unlock bonuses, i know that there is a top ten guild that will not allow any member to raid or take gold from a "Suspicious" account due to rammifications from other players/Gree, they do not want to be associated with this sort of tactic and if they find anyone doing such things they are outsted straight away.
So some Guilds have honourable rules and others have inside info before events starts, It all comes down to preperation.
So it is possible to have 56-57 Memebrs as in FUN not that im a member (cant afford it) if you had a head start with gold contribution.
As founder of TBC during beta and donating my initial millions (under 10 mil) from 2 accounts after camping for at least half a year I've seen more than my share of questionable guilds even before Dragon's Roost during beta wars. Even then there were 60 member guilds which I have reported and nothing has been done since I last checked.
Nothing is impossible to attain even with a one member guild and very deep pockets. However, is it plausible? A 50 member guild from the inception of guilds may be able to achieve 60 spots total with the time line given but no team starts with 50 members. It takes lots of time to put together a team and even more discipline to have that team with a single minded focus to donate nearly 100% of their income to the guild. Even at the best of times this isn't the case for most teams as there is always a bit of self serving thought to better yourself first before others. That's why you still see members in guilds not donating 100% of their gold to the group and instead upgrade buildings, vaults or buying units and equipment.
As to hearing members in certain guilds dropping to near zero alliance and farming hacked accounts all I can say is that this has never happened in TBC. However, the odds of one of my guild members raiding a hacked account unknowingly since TBC was formed I would venture to say its pretty high. Once discovering such a cash cow and announcing to our guild members to hunt for that player with untold millions unvaulted I don't ever recall that happening. So as a 46 member guild looking at the next 2 member spots to unlock at 144 million and putting that on the back burner to unlock our first health regen for 30 mil you can see where some of the skepticism come from.
Hence, everything is possible but is it plausible?
First of all I responded on the post from Sir Marcus, concerning the matter about farming from alternate accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Painite
I did not imply that FUN are widely are using a gold hack, it was in case 1 of their members would use 1.
About the hack patches, because it is not possible now anymore doesn't mean that 3 months it was possible.
Proof about using GEMS, read the forums and wait till after this weekend.
First read properly and then respond please..
Thanks.
Thank you for sharing...
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Originally Posted by JPNy
I couldn't agree with you more on this one JPNy.. And Klevito (or Klavito, sorry if I miss spelled it), You have some great posts here.. Your posts are full of wisdom and I can tell you are not a "child" that needs to use words like "troll" or "gibberish" to express themselves..
*******Ok, back to the subject, sorry I got carried away.
I need to say something to all these people. AND TOP 50 MEMBERS (so guilds from #1 to #50 guilds) Please read this, because it is very important!!!!!!!!!!********
I am a test account and I've had a test account on KA for a while now. It is a intentionally HACKED account.. So, i know nobody can question me here! And I will not respond to posts that are related to my post again! Read carefully!
Test account was ******** (can not use real name do to GREE-privacy reasons).. That account has been attacked and raided multiple times by top guilds. First, different players would raid me and steal hundreds of thousands of dollars and then post messages on my account saying I've been reported to GREE. Don't worry GREE won't do anything because Im part of a test account!
So, with that said, I can tell you for a 100% certainty, just because a guild has less than 56 members in a guild, doesn't mean they got their bonuses the legit way. I will not write out any names of guilds involved, but I can tell you that a lot of the guilds that are involved in some way or form, have already posted on this thread!!! As one of the FUN members mentioned, hacked accounts were formed to raid money from them, and I know of those too, I've seen them! So not one guild is innocent here.
DO NOT TRY TO ACCUSE OTHER GUILDS OF CHEATING WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR OWN GUILD!!! I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE MEMBERS THAT HAVE ATTACKED/RAIDED HACKED ACCOUNTS, AND THEY ARE ON TOP GUILDS RIGHT NOW!!! That is all i will say for now.
A lot of you should shut up, because I may know more than you think! It is very amusing reading these comments, knowing everything..
Wish I could mention all the guilds involved, but trust me, I know ALL of them, and lets just say the number is way way higher than you thin.
Thank you,
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