Future of Kingdom Age

There are a lot of thoughts about this game. Some think its near end and Gree is getting what they still can. Others think this game will last for still a long time. There is no way to tell for sure. Fact is Gree has changed a lot in the game lately and not for the better.

Whatever you think of it it doesnt matter. What does matter is Gree. There are still a lot of players buying gems for a game which future is uncertain to say the least. This is wrong!

Gree please come here on forum and tell us your intentions with the game. This is fair to all players, but for paying customers a must!


PS: CJ i know you post in MW forum, but for some reason havent been active in KA forum.

KA has succes due to the amount off advertising and leverage they got on the market. Also the mobile marked keeps expanding which delivers them easy victims on a silver plate.

If we talk about the games itself it's clear they are not good designed and all is centred around money accumulation.

So is the game dead? Yes, completely... You can't fix anymore what they screwed up in balance.
So will the game dissappear? Not yet, growing mobile marked, attraction as a 'popular' game provider. So give it some more time... Before gree disappears with this kind off games.

The last i saw is that they are copying one on one a game that hit top revenue grossings charts... CoC... And for me that says a lot... Creative development? Nope... Just make what has success and brings money on the table.

It's dead but just won't lay down.

See Monster Quest as an example of whether you will get notice before it happens.

This game is dead for me. Same for Modern War. I sold everything and I gave everything to my guild. I prefer now to play at dragon realms. I think the design is more viable but for how long, we do not know.

It just does not make sense to give so much units after each event! This kill the game right from the start of guild wars.

Ah well, I had a good time in KA and MW since I played with a great group of people but DR is indeed better.

Only my two cents!

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Originally Posted by Speak Easy

It's dead but just won't lay down.

See Monster Quest as an example of whether you will get notice before it happens.

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I am not familiar with this, can you please explain?

IMO, KA will be around for a long time - the forum represents a small sample size of KA players and probably a smaller sample size of Gree's income. Their goal is to make money(as with any good business model). The problem with their business model is they don't have enough support staff and worse off, they are terrible at coding OR they intentionally bug events...either of which is grounds for lawsuits. Seeing them on the top of the iTunes money making App is a decent indicator that they are still making a lot of money. Not to mention the cost to keep KA running is so low as is the cost of their support staff...seeing they have what, 2 on the forum and 5-10 answering emails?

Another point is that even if the game was about to be put down (RIP old yeller), they wouldn't tell us.

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Originally Posted by Sexy Calindra

This game is dead for me. Same for Modern War. I sold everything and I gave everything to my guild. I prefer now to play at dragon realms. I think the design is more viable but for how long, we do not know.

It just does not make sense to give so much units after each event! This kill the game right from the start of guild wars.

Ah well, I had a good time in KA and MW since I played with a great group of people but DR is indeed better.

Only my two cents!

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Why do u think dragon realm will have a different fate? All the games u played were run by the same person. Crazy Stats inflation and cash cow milking will soon to come. But they need some time to grow the pool of players in DR, just enjoy while u can

Not exactly dead, maybe it's in ICU with I.V. meds keeping its heart pumping, intubated and connected to a mechanical ventilator. But the "doctors" are prescribing the wrong dose. So it will eventually die.

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Originally Posted by larrydavid

I am not familiar with this, can you please explain?

IMO, KA will be around for a long time - the forum represents a small sample size of KA players and probably a smaller sample size of Gree's income. Their goal is to make money(as with any good business model). The problem with their business model is they don't have enough support staff and worse off, they are terrible at coding OR they intentionally bug events...either of which is grounds for lawsuits. Seeing them on the top of the iTunes money making App is a decent indicator that they are still making a lot of money. Not to mention the cost to keep KA running is so low as is the cost of their support staff...seeing they have what, 2 on the forum and 5-10 answering emails?

Another point is that even if the game was about to be put down (RIP old yeller), they wouldn't tell us.

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as far as i know in MQ they just stopped doing events. and instead of answering one of every 20 tickets, no tickets at all were answered.

This and the other older games for GREE will not last that long. Although this is the only game I play on my Iphone, it's sad that some members haven't learned their lesson and proceeded to play other GREE games. I mean...why? For me after this, it's over....no more GREE games.

So the question still remains : The Future ......i can not understand if so many players are in the mindset that this game will cease then WHY still throw money at it ? Its like beating a dead horse ! the amount of money some players spend on this game just blow me away, why would someone want 50+mil in stats when most are around 10-20mil , i can see no future on levelling up or trying to catch top guild stats unless your rich and dont care about life!
it will be a sad day from a friends point within this game when it gets shut down, and at the end of this what do you have to show for ALL the money spent ?? a dead horse!

Well, I hope it does not end, but I often think that GREE can't be that wild about keeping KA going as they dont have an android version. Well, that may make it easier to keep up. If our chat monitor person is no longer checking in, I would say that is bad news, too. It may mean they are afraid to make commitments. I don't play the other games.

And, if KA stopped, I would talk to my friends and guild mates before I committed time and money to another game. I have met such nice people playing this game and I really like the multi-tasking and the way the individual and guild goals intereract. That said, I really do not love the box events. seems to only reward those who are lucky enough to gem early and often. The scratchers are a little aggravating, too. If I wanted to play a lottery, I would just get a megabucks ticket. I like the part of this game that requires thought and action, not random gifts from GREE. Of course, GREE, you can give me one of those monster scratch prizes.... LOL.. how is that for being hypocritical.

KA will die the death it needs. It is nothing more than a rigged casino game with a flashy, albeit weak, game experience wrapped around it!! IMO good riddance, I'm tired of spending money for a weak game experience!!! Looking forward to being banned!!! :D

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Originally Posted by Áed

KA will die the death it needs. It is nothing more than a rigged casino game with a flashy, albeit weak, game experience wrapped around it!! IMO good riddance, I'm tired of spending money for a weak game experience!!! Looking forward to being banned!!! :D

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LOL, you didn't say mean enough stuff to get banned.. Are you thinking of leaving the game Aed? Make sure you stop by my kingdom and say good bye if you do (which I hope you do not leave).

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Originally Posted by larrydavid

I am not familiar with this, can you please explain?

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http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...s-this-the-end

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Originally Posted by Speak Easy

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...s-this-the-end

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Its a shame Gree is so terrible at running their games. When you can get past all of the headaches, frustration, shoddy programming, and awful customer service, they actually quite fun. Or at least they were.

I think the signs are there.
Nearly all events are pay to compete now, the LTQ's have effectively gone.
A real emphasis is now put upon levelling, be it mini's or mains, pushing you to an end game.
No mods post on the forum anymore.
This implies to me a short future for the game; a shame I really enjoyed it for a good while.

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Originally Posted by Munseyspin

I think the signs are there.
Nearly all events are pay to compete now, the LTQ's have effectively gone.
A real emphasis is now put upon levelling, be it mini's or mains, pushing you to an end game.
No mods post on the forum anymore.
This implies to me a short future for the game; a shame I really enjoyed it for a good while.

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The strange thing is that if they wanted to intentionally kill the game, why offer the new option to invite players? Why offer units?

I think we are giving them too much credit. Do you really think Gree has a master plan? They are imbeciles who futz up everything they touch. I think they just fly by the seat of their pants.

Gree has had cash flow issues for a while now. In cash flow crisis mode, corporations live for the now. What E-I posts is dead on, and the cash flow problems are the cause.

To maximize cash flow you cut expenses and squeeze every value added sale you can. In the end you sacrifice customer service and reduce the value of your product. Of course the game will end, but the habitual nature of the human beast will provide enough inertia to keep the cash flow going for a while. The real question is for each one of us, how much longer will I be squeezed by their value added environment while being ignored by customer service.

I actually spoke with a lawyer about this game, she said that the cost of litigation measured against the likelihood of collecting a settlement would make it very unlikely any law firm would pursue a suit, even class action against Gree. She said if I just wanted to strike at them, just complain to consumer protection division of state attorney generals office. If any stet started to get more than a few similar complaints they would probably act. I think that it's possible enough people do this at some point that some state AG files a complaint and forces the inevitable end to be accelerated.

No. I don't think they have a master plan. They are just trying to squeeze every last penny out of the game. KA has dropped in the top grossing rankings and will continue to do so. It can't be fixed, new players can't compete and old players will stop spending and/or then stop playing. At the moment the game has turned (even more) into a spend to survive game. A few months ago a light/moderate gemmer could still do well if they played hard and sensibly in a good guild. Now that's simply not possible. Recent events, most noticeably Two consecutive box events with massive stats boosts are changing the playing field. Since the last war I have not levelled up.......there has simply been no reason to play the game.

Simple answer to all of this is to start a new server for a fresh start for everyone BUT keep the old server as well.

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Originally Posted by Arionek

Simple answer to all of this is to start a new server for a fresh start for everyone BUT keep the old server as well.

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wont happen, they can afford to spend anymore $$ on a game going down the toilet ! they will put those $$ in other areas.....like their pockets, then pat themselves on the back for a Fantastic job !

The easiest way to save money is don't pay to play. Not everyone can afford this game. Play for free. It can still be fun and Gree can't hurt you anymore with their gold pushes. Not everyone can be or needs to be the top gun. It's ok just to play and enjoy without feeding into the frenzy. Make Gree back off. Don't buy Gold. There are plenty of other very entertaining games out there. Gree is not the best. The customers quit buying and the company is forced to change or lose everything. All things change, all people die. Find a game that is suitable for you.

If you guys all hate the game so much, hold down the icon until it shakes, click the x...

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Originally Posted by Ratma2001

So the question still remains : The Future ......i can not understand if so many players are in the mindset that this game will cease then WHY still throw money at it ? Its like beating a dead horse ! the amount of money some players spend on this game just blow me away, why would someone want 50+mil in stats when most are around 10-20mil , i can see no future on levelling up or trying to catch top guild stats unless your rich and dont care about life!
it will be a sad day from a friends point within this game when it gets shut down, and at the end of this what do you have to show for ALL the money spent ?? a dead horse!

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Damm Ratma, you stole the words from me....but I'd say Gree will come out with a few more (honestly not expecting much) event types designed to induce/lure in more gem spenders. At some point though many of the gem ppl WILL realize your point, although I suspect when it's too late. But Gree may surprise us all and get their act together next year.

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Originally Posted by Ratma2001

So the question still remains : The Future ......i can not understand if so many players are in the mindset that this game will cease then WHY still throw money at it ? Its like beating a dead horse ! the amount of money some players spend on this game just blow me away, why would someone want 50+mil in stats when most are around 10-20mil , i can see no future on levelling up or trying to catch top guild stats unless your rich and dont care about life!
it will be a sad day from a friends point within this game when it gets shut down, and at the end of this what do you have to show for ALL the money spent ?? a dead horse!

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50 million? haha I saw someone with 90+ million yesterday! FCK! From that moment I told myself no more gems. LMFAO. Some rich guy can now join the game and spend 100k+ gems on scratch its and be 20+ million in no time. There is probably some level 5 at 5+ million stats. Join FUN/RK for 2-3 wars and get all the boost and be 40+ million at level 40-50. I dont understand why they felt the scratch it prizes should be 500k? That's 3 times better than winning 56 streak unit which IMO is the hardest thing to accomplish in the game. Takes a ton of dedication, strategy and time. Damn scratch its are pure luck. Just throw money at it and hope for 500k unit. Stupid.

How is that any different than how it was just before the first war? Most of us were under 100k, the big dogs were 2-500k and Thorodin was over 1m. 10x the average, now many of us around 10m and the big dogs are pushing 100m, still 10x. Just some extra zeros

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Originally Posted by Ratma2001

So the question still remains : The Future ......i can not understand if so many players are in the mindset that this game will cease then WHY still throw money at it ? Its like beating a dead horse ! the amount of money some players spend on this game just blow me away, why would someone want 50+mil in stats when most are around 10-20mil , i can see no future on levelling up or trying to catch top guild stats unless your rich and dont care about life!
it will be a sad day from a friends point within this game when it gets shut down, and at the end of this what do you have to show for ALL the money spent ?? a dead horse!

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The only thing I can think of is they don't care about wasting cash. It's all extra cash, or just lose change to them. Or it's people that will buy anything..
The time I spent in sales we would love people like that, soo gullible you could sell them ice cream to eat, and tell them the cold of the ice cream helps kick in the body's own heating system so it helps keep them warm when it's -20 outside.
Or on very hot days they need a new sweater for insulation, to keep the cool in and the heat out.

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Originally Posted by Valid or

The only thing I can think of is they don't care about wasting cash. It's all extra cash, or just lose change to them. Or it's people that will buy anything..
The time I spent in sales we would love people like that, soo gullible you could sell them ice cream to eat, and tell them the cold of the ice cream helps kick in the body's own heating system so it helps keep them warm when it's -20 outside.
Or on very hot days they need a new sweater for insulation, to keep the cool in and the heat out.

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HAHA , i will take 5 Sweaters and 3 Icecreams to go thanks mate

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Originally Posted by NinjaHonu

50 million? haha I saw someone with 90+ million yesterday! FCK! From that moment I told myself no more gems. LMFAO. Some rich guy can now join the game and spend 100k+ gems on scratch its and be 20+ million in no time. There is probably some level 5 at 5+ million stats. Join FUN/RK for 2-3 wars and get all the boost and be 40+ million at level 40-50. I dont understand why they felt the scratch it prizes should be 500k? That's 3 times better than winning 56 streak unit which IMO is the hardest thing to accomplish in the game. Takes a ton of dedication, strategy and time. Damn scratch its are pure luck. Just throw money at it and hope for 500k unit. Stupid.

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You do realize this is exactly what Gree wants, some rich guy to come in and spend a pike of cash

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Originally Posted by NinjaHonu

50 million? haha I saw someone with 90+ million yesterday! FCK! From that moment I told myself no more gems. LMFAO. Some rich guy can now join the game and spend 100k+ gems on scratch its and be 20+ million in no time. There is probably some level 5 at 5+ million stats. Join FUN/RK for 2-3 wars and get all the boost and be 40+ million at level 40-50. I dont understand why they felt the scratch it prizes should be 500k? That's 3 times better than winning 56 streak unit which IMO is the hardest thing to accomplish in the game. Takes a ton of dedication, strategy and time. Damn scratch its are pure luck. Just throw money at it and hope for 500k unit. Stupid.

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I can confirm those people do exist... Scratchers for the win. We are back at the middle ages where money was power.

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Originally Posted by P4TR1C14N

I can confirm those people do exist... Scratchers for the win. We are back at the middle ages where money was power.

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In that case i USED to have POWER, but as the wind blows it diminishes the amount until i feel the need NOT TO SPEND anymore as this game has gone with the Fruits of labour .....Pear Shaped !, i dont mind paying for something if it works or if the Support are helpful...but there are X in these boxes and not Tick....sad but most will follow the same..and Gree will hope that Noobies will take over...providing that they dont join these forums first !
Little dabble..little cash...more dabble ...more cash....more cash ..more glitches...more cash...more glitches crashes..sorry you should have got that unit ..here is a lessor stat unit ...oops we stuffed up again please give us more cash....ohh here 50 gems for that stuff up..............No More Cash....GAME OVER

StarFire has now pass the 100m attack mark, insane!

There are some around in the KA world now that feel they spent a few gems for nothing;)

And next event will be a lot harder for everyone of course. Gree style to keep up with their bright plans

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Originally Posted by Dogs Pizza

How is that any different than how it was just before the first war? Most of us were under 100k, the big dogs were 2-500k and Thorodin was over 1m. 10x the average, now many of us around 10m and the big dogs are pushing 100m, still 10x. Just some extra zeros

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Perhaps that's the point Dog Pissa. Spend a ton of money to improve stats relative to others but it all remains the same.

In fact it could be worse. Spend and go backwards. There is no actual improvement, it's an illusion.

Depending on what they do with the rivals list and the percentage difference between rivals. Something like 30% less and you can still defeat them. So if I am 10M attack, you will need to be 14M or better otherwise you have wasted your time and money. Then there is the guy next to me who is 11M and will knock you over, or the one next to him who is 12M.

It's coming!

And forget about strength for your level. That will be irrelevant soon.

Stats are just an illusion.

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Originally Posted by Speak Easy

Perhaps that's the point Dog Pissa. Spend a ton of money to improve stats relative to others but it all remains the same.

In fact it could be worse. Spend and go backwards. There is no actual improvement, it's an illusion.

Depending on what they do with the rivals list and the percentage difference between rivals. Something like 30% less and you can still defeat them. So if I am 10M attack, you will need to be 14M or better otherwise you have wasted your time and money. Then there is the guy next to me who is 11M and will knock you over, or the one next to him who is 12M.

It's coming!

And forget about strength for your level. That will be irrelevant soon.

Stats are just an illusion.

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True, i used to always raid players 4-6 Mill more than me...cause i could , i didnt have to take down their Boosts just raid get the gold and go, i aint greedy on most Kingdoms , didint want the tap backs just enough to let players know to collect on time, I am so glad i dont play anymore !
Too much Time ...Too much money....now i just lurk around here looking watching laughing at all the errors, glitches, and stuff ups, my life is better now.
so Starfire is 100 Mill to the masses of avg 20? WHY ? at what cost ?
Hypothetical : IF (Big Word) this game keeps going which i highly doubt, you could leave for a year and catch up with in weeks , going on current stat increases, and cost me virtually zero dollars, and Starfire would have spent $$thousands.
Such is LIFE

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Originally Posted by Ratma2001

True, i used to always raid players 4-6 Mill more than me...cause i could , i didnt have to take down their Boosts just raid get the gold and go, i aint greedy on most Kingdoms , didint want the tap backs just enough to let players know to collect on time, I am so glad i dont play anymore !
Too much Time ...Too much money....now i just lurk around here looking watching laughing at all the errors, glitches, and stuff ups, my life is better now.
so Starfire is 100 Mill to the masses of avg 20? WHY ? at what cost ?
Hypothetical : IF (Big Word) this game keeps going which i highly doubt, you could leave for a year and catch up with in weeks , going on current stat increases, and cost me virtually zero dollars, and Starfire would have spent $$thousands.
Such is LIFE

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Imagine what Thorrodin spent to get that 1 mill stats.. We are talking about a yatch(which is sunk now)

This game is clearly bleeding out. Each and every war more and more people retire, long standing gemmers, running from a developer that has clearly stopped caring. Missing a reward? They don't care! Those little "glitches" that at least made certain things bare able, well don't worry they fixed those and then made the gem requirement even higher. Amazing....

Someone told me Gree is giving into the demand of the fleeting public...well I say...too little, too late GreeDY

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Originally Posted by Ryikk

This game is clearly bleeding out. Each and every war more and more people retire, long standing gemmers, running from a developer that has clearly stopped caring.

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Quite clearly the case, I average the same CP points in my last few wars since they roll out the individual rewards. Instead of being at roughly the same position each war, I find myself being placed higher in the more recent wars. A hard truth that more and more are dropping out from the rat race.

wonder how much starfire spent on scratch cards...

This is my lowest war by far in 8 months. This trend will continue because I value my money and time more than GREE does.