Feedback on New Epic Boss format
31 Dec 2014 Edit
Thus far, XP seems lower. HP seems [s]a bit lower[/s] the exact ****ing same... seriously?! For those who think their Epic Boss attack boosts are not all calculated, please don't forget that we've had temporary bonuses and GREE doesn't seem to remove it from your listing, even after they have expired.
Damage is as follows
FREE HIT = ~66.6% of Gold Hit
GOLD HIT = (Hero Equip Power + Hero Strength/2) * Boost
GEM HIT = 4x Gold Hit
End Edit
It sucks worse than any Dyson vacuum cleaner I've ever seen, and those things got some major sucking power to them.
I'll openly admit I've more than overspent during my time playing this game. Somewhere in the vicinity of probably $4,000 lifetime spent on my account. So, I could easily tackle the Epic Bosses? I PAID for that to happen. If my damage boost % to the Epic Boss (One of which was paid for via quite a hefty amount of gems one event, I might add) is useless, because I'm doing so little damage now that a +19% doesn't do crap anymore... why?
You've completely invalidated all of that above spending. My account might as well be a newbie's for all that it matters, as I'm already struggling through the Epic Boss event now at the late 30s and early 40s... I didn't spend all of my money so that I could have a hard time of the game, I was paying to win, as is the focus of pay to win app games. If you think otherwise, open your eyes.
Thanks for killing the game. I've been quite vocal in my past criticism, but I hadn't put it down yet. Well, now I am. This was the final straw, and for ****s and giggles, I'm also going to leave another 1 star review on this app. Because, let's face it, you all are worse than EA when it comes to handling games. This is the worst fumbling of something I've ever seen, and not even Tadaaah's experience on FF 14 Rebirth is going to save your pathetic arses from this bungling.
Thanks for telling me my $$$ don't matter at all, and that I've wasted all of this time playing this game. Checking out for the final time, because you're not even worth the effort it takes to type this out anymore.
- Lys
Below are additions from the conversation that are pretty bloody important.
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Just checked my notes....even back in April i was capable to kill a lv 100 with 8 gold hits....now its 13
From a player I know in regards to the HP changes made to the EB... A heavy gemming player. This is too far of an increase.
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Originally Posted by
Derez
The changes to Epic Boss are meant as a way to bring something new to the game and reengage players in this event without having to replace it with a new event type. Our active players with giant armies who have been playing the game for a long time will have hero items powerful enough to compete, if not dominate, in the event as they always have. While we have chosen our oldest single event to get this revamp player's armies are in no way devalued as they still play a major part in Raid Boss and Conquest events.
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Originally Posted by
Uberfauker
Derez, it would be great if you came to this forum and explain why this statement you made is not true.
Also, please explain in detail how this has not devalued our accounts.
Answer, please. This event is back to how it was when I was a free player, not a gemmer.
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Originally Posted by
Lara4578
To the developers
Whilst we appreciate the need to continually move events forward in line with the average growth on accounts, it seems, yet again, that the calculations used for the EB may have been over the top. When our top and oldest accounts have struggled to actually finish this quest to 100 kills, there is very little hope for the rest of the guild who do not have the benefit of the health regeneration on our oldest accounts.
Based on your new format of EB, the changes and percentage increased compared to old format EB was close to 1500% increase. How does that make any sense for such a huge jump in difficulty for EB from the new and old. We can understand there is a need to increase, however the main issue that went wrong was how much it was increased, 1500% is just totally ridiculous, unfair and unreasonable at all, it totally does not make any common and reasonable sense. On top of that, the rewards given for the increase are not even close to comparable too, the rewards really lack the attractiveness for players to do the event. So please readjust the EB to make it reasonable for all the KA players and also please put in some focus on the rewards to match up the level of difficult better.
Our choice therefore seems to be.. Spend gems to complete or simply not bother wasting the time involved in the quest.
Given the new strategy during war that you are pursuing, and the requirement for 1500 plus items of headwear, footwear and artifacts.. Would it not make more sense to offer some of these items, even low stats ones during the event to make it more appealing to users, in which case they may consider using gems, instead of one item of not great strength at the end of heroic quest.
After last months example of a 'collect 21 items' quest, it is unlikely many people will even attempt the master slayer quest this cycle.. Again, another source of lost gems.
Also.. As you will notice the figures on the LB for the normal box quest are still exceedingly low.. Again.. Last cycle, so many of us spent far too many gems, to not even be able to finish the quest.. We are still individually awaiting a response from yourselves on this.. Our tickets were closed after they were passed to specialists for replies, which have to date been not forthcoming.
We welcome your attempts to keep our attention in the game. Perhaps it is time to reevaluate the players and input you receive from your beta testers.. Possibly they are not the correct demographic of players to give you accurate feedback.
Hoping these comments are helpful and explain our concern..
Rising Phoenix
P.S: we also emailed a copy of the letter to Gree too.
Nicely sums up things in an eloquent manner.
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Originally Posted by
Killing You
Dear Gree,
I am writing this letter on behalf of the Kingdom Age Community. The intention is to make you aware of our disgust regarding the changes to the Epic Boss. As you are well aware, many here in guild have spent obscene amounts of money as well as thousands of hours of our time to make some of the most competitive accounts in the game. The new format Gree has adopted to run its Epic boss event has erased the time, effort and money many of KAs top players have put forth. Players who were able to take down a level 100 last EB with a couple of free hits, now find themselves using 6 or 7 free hits to take down a level 66 boss. This new format is ridiculous and clearly illustrates the disconnect between Gree and its players. This event gave players a chance to watch their toons grow and move further and further through the event without having to spend and spend.
On a whim, Gree has once again given players a reason to contemplate retiring from this game. This change just like the numerous other changes as of late was not asked for nor was it needed. If the intention of the company is to ruin and or end this game than just pull the plug already. The current actions and or course you are taking has already hit your company where it hurts, forcing those who already spend to constantly increase their investment will only cause burnout and loss of revenue for your company.
The new war format has run a couple of cycles now and people are getting used to it and changing their strategy for build their accounts accordingly. However this change has rendered low level toons useless and set higher level toons back to nearly zero. We are requesting that the previous format for Epic Boss be reinstated. Changing so many characteristics of the game is not fair to those who have invested so much.
Below you will find a list (which is growing every minute) of guilds who support this letter and its purpose.
Sincerely,
Forum United Nation
Forum United Nation 2
Original Dutch Bitterball
Raiding Barbarian Nation
Royal FUA Knights
The Abusement Park
Warlord
Royal Knights
Fire Metal Blood
Samurai Blood
Samurai Blood USA
Samurai Blood 2.0
Samurai Blood 4.0
SB King Queens Jokers
Samurai Blood 3
Royal Knights Paladins
Minions of Mayhem
Royal KG Knights
Royal Knight XW
The Raiding Barbarians
Dragon Warriors
Muff Marauders
Rose Warriors
Back to the Future
The Phoenix Knights
Gods of Valhalla
Red Dawn Dragons
Hero Quest
The Sailing Alpacas
I spy... the Top 3 guilds. And the Top 10. And most of the Top 25... are there even any gemmers left outside of these groups?
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Originally Posted by
Clementine
I do understand, and I take much of the responsibility here for not communicating with you guys on that thread. The Development Team IS aware of the feedback, particularly that from the top guilds. I will continue to stress the feedback to them.
So, they're aware, but choosing not to comment on the matter at this time, it seems. Then again... there is no right answer or anything they could say that wouldn't lead to them getting bit in the ass in some manner, I suppose.
[Official Feedback] Epic Boss Meets Hero Equip
Please leave your feedback here for the new format of Epic Boss, which now utilizes the new Hero Equip.
There currently is a known issue effecting EB, which is detailed here.
Epic Boss Letter posted at the request of Clementine
Dear Gree,
I am writing this letter on behalf of the Kingdom Age Community. The intention is to make you aware of our disgust regarding the changes to the Epic Boss. As you are well aware, many here in guild have spent obscene amounts of money as well as thousands of hours of our time to make some of the most competitive accounts in the game. The new format Gree has adopted to run its Epic boss event has erased the time, effort and money many of KAs top players have put forth. Players who were able to take down a level 100 last EB with a couple of free hits, now find themselves using 6 or 7 free hits to take down a level 66 boss. This new format is ridiculous and clearly illustrates the disconnect between Gree and its players. This event gave players a chance to watch their toons grow and move further and further through the event without having to spend and spend.
On a whim, Gree has once again given players a reason to contemplate retiring from this game. This change just like the numerous other changes as of late was not asked for nor was it needed. If the intention of the company is to ruin and or end this game than just pull the plug already. The current actions and or course you are taking has already hit your company where it hurts, forcing those who already spend to constantly increase their investment will only cause burnout and loss of revenue for your company.
The new war format has run a couple of cycles now and people are getting used to it and changing their strategy for build their accounts accordingly. However this change has rendered low level toons useless and set higher level toons back to nearly zero. We are requesting that the previous format for Epic Boss be reinstated. Changing so many characteristics of the game is not fair to those who have invested so much.
Below you will find a list (which is growing every minute) of guilds who support this letter and its purpose.
Sincerely,
Forum United Nation
Forum United Nation 2
Original Dutch Bitterball
Raiding Barbarian Nation
Royal FUA Knights
The Abusement Park
Warlord
Royal Knights
Fire Metal Blood
Samurai Blood
Samurai Blood USA
Samurai Blood 2.0
Samurai Blood 4.0
SB King Queens Jokers
Samurai Blood 3
Royal Knights Paladins
Minions of Mayhem
Royal KG Knights
Royal Knight XW
The Raiding Barbarians
Dragon Warriors
Muff Marauders
Rose Warriors
Back to the Future
The Phoenix Knights
Gods of Valhalla
Red Dawn Dragons
Hero Quest
The Sailing Alpacas