Thread closed before I could post this. Please include army attack as a factor in epic boss. People have spent thousands of dollars to build up big armies and should see value from that.
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Thread closed before I could post this. Please include army attack as a factor in epic boss. People have spent thousands of dollars to build up big armies and should see value from that.
Agree completely, making that change would only piss off all the gem spenders who have spent so much time building there army's. This would be a huge mistake, I guarantee it!!
The changes to Epic Boss are meant as a way to bring something new to the game and reengage players in this event without having to replace it with a new event type. Our active players with giant armies who have been playing the game for a long time will have hero items powerful enough to compete, if not dominate, in the event as they always have. While we have chosen our oldest single event to get this revamp player's armies are in no way devalued as they still play a major part in Raid Boss and Conquest events.
EB has been going on for a long time now. I remember the first epic boss was a Giant with main prize being something like a 500/500 stat unit. It is a lot of players favorite event especially now with these new drops. If you want to revamp a old event think you should focus on box event players least favorite event. Feel changing EB to hero equipment stat would make this event very disappointing, and go back to the way it was. Where it was very hard to complete without throwing a bunch of gems at it. Your right top player might have a little stronger hero equipment stat but not by that much . There is a range of bout 4000-9000 Hero stat range in the L200+ no matter army stat, and unless these bosses have really low health this will be extremely tough event for all. Low level players want have a chance either.
Hi Derez
but hero stats (hero attack and defense) are still also driven by skill points allocated to army attack/defense. Without any possibility to reallocate those there is a huge difference even having the best hero equipment available.
So if you consider hero stats all people who have not put the majority of skill points into army attack/def will have a disadvanatge without any option to correct this.
I see that you want to put weight on the different metrics and it makes sense but you first should correct the wrong coding and allow people to allocate a big metric driving factor (the skill points) before you apply those things.
Hi Derez,
All of your big spenders have spent years and thousands of dollars to get to a point where they can slice through epic bosses. I am personally pleased to be able to hit a level 100 with three free hits and don't begrudge those who can do it in one. None of us want to make it harder or level the field against those who have spent less time and money. You should honor that. You need to think smaller changes. People's armies should help. Many people missed out on the hero attack bonuses as they were prepping minis for war and avoiding quest xp. Now they are high stat players, but will fail on epic boss. I implore you not to do this. You will see another wave of mass retirements of your biggest spenders.
Lets be honest here. It is a pipe dream to think you will revamp this game and get a lot of fresh new blood. Honor and respect those who continue to invest their time and money and play this game obsessively.
You cannot destroy the sense of accomplishment that your big spenders have. These changes will do that.
I have to agree with Jo. I'm one of those that have spent more money than I want to count and can "slice through" epic bosses with 2 free attacks. To have this instead using my very average Hero attack will be extremely disappointing. With next to no way to improve my hero attack currently, I will already be behind come the next Epic Boss event when these changes occur. I've received ALL the vouchers and completed every materials crate event and can still not craft much besides the best pair of boots that I finished yesterday. Now I am out of materials until I can somehow get many more crates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jomama1
I've seen elite RK members (I'm a former member myself) with hero equip attack which is far above mine. I too have allocated my skill points to Hero Strength until now. I'm anxious at best to see some of these new changes which will cause me to more or less start over on the stats that I've worked very hard to build.
If I see an epic boss event that will cause me to spend mountains of gems for prizes that are at current levels, please know that I will NOT use my gems on it.
Belgario, if you put your points into Hero Strength you should do all right. The statement from Derez was:
NEW EPIC BOSS
The next Epic Boss event will be rebalanced to use only Hero Equip stats (+ Hero Strength + Hero Attack Bonus.)
So, those points will count.
Am going to guess epic boss health will be lowered from the billions to something a lot less?
Yes, they said much lower.
The issue is not that the high stat players can't do it. The issue is that they spent thousands of dollars developing primary stats so they could do it easily and now face the prospect of that changing. And in an arbitrary manner where some will be able to finish but others will be back at square 1. A change that will mostly hurt those who played smartest over the last few years.
Primary stats have been for three things, EB, RB, WAR. Your war calculation change has devalued their use in war and now you propose to make them completely for EB. This is a slap in the face to the time and money your most loyal players have invested. What is the point of fighting for these war units if they are useless for epic boss????? Alll over the KA community the talk of increased retirements has heightened with this news. Nobody has reacted positively.
Too late Jo. The exodus is in full effect.
If these events become tougher for high stat/big spenders then the exodus will go into overdrive.Quote:
Originally Posted by garen argon
Congrats GREE on making EB impossible for EVERYONE!!!!
It is. I'm doing 550 attack on a boss. FIVE HUNDRED ****ING FIFTY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uberfauker
Hey, GREE... WAY TO INVALIDATE EVERYONE'S SPENDING BEFORE THIS! INCONSIDERATE **************
For sure, this is beyond ridiculous! We all tried to warn you that making this change would only piss off the players, and sure enough congratulations you succeed. Sad to see you are still very out of touch on your own game.
Are you Kidding me... I have dropped thousands of dollars building up my ID to be very strong. Now you have "rebalanced" the event... You have destroyed all advantages... just wiped it away. My EB attack is almost the same as other players who play for free... And worse, EB is beyond difficult. It cannot be completed without thousands of GEMs. A guild mate with similar EB damage to me is already at 3 hits at lvl 27. We all have the same LTQ swords and equipment. nothing to craft beyond a pair of boots and a helmet. Gree you say that if you had a dominant account you can still dominate. YOU ONCE AGAIN LIED TO THE KA COMMUNITY. Why should we believe anything you tell us. This is all about generating more gems spending plain and simple!!!
If GREE had left the old EB event alone, and introduced a new EB type event based on hero stats, no one would have been upset. Other threads are complaining about too many grinding events (like the trials and the old style kill 1000 of monsters) why remove the events that players actually love?
This isn't right at all. We said we didn't want this and you do it anyway. Surely the customer is always right?
I'm sitting here trying to summon up the energy to fire off another epistle of customer dissatisfaction to Gree but what can I say that hasn't already been said ?
The new Epic Boss event is mind sappingly disappointing without a single redeeming feature and yet again demonstrates how out of touch Gree is with the Kingdom Age Community.
We aren't asking for freebies or handouts. Most of us who play the game enjoy enjoy challenges and work hard to improve.
We welcome change providing it is fair and equitable and takes into account the time, effort and investment we have put in to the Game.
2 free hits at Boss 17 is a Road Map that leads to a dead end.
I'm not satisfied at all with this change! :mad: I've put a lot of time and money to build my account, for nothing now it seems. Before this change, I was able to kill a lvl 100 EB with two free hits or one gold hit. But now, EB level 25 took one gold hit and one free. That sucks!
You really think it's a good idea to punish your biggest spenders with this change? :mad:
After all, it's a business. What do you think a business has to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vixia.
Yeah it's a business and they want to make money. I don't have a problem with that, otherwise I wouldn't spend on this game. But I do have a problem with this big change they've made, where our spent money doesn't count.
Conversely, the changes have actually made the event more doable/enjoyable for me so far. I suspect that are WAY more players around my (feeble!) strength than there are big spenders, so perhaps they are trying to even the playing field a bit.
I was previously unable to get past about 20 bosses or so without breaking into gems. The whole event was a bust and not worth paying anything for. Now, at least, if I can get somewhere near a reasonable prize I could be tempted to pay a little bit for gems.
It'd be a shame if Gree have ruined the event for their biggest cash cows, though
The Old Whale is Dead! Long live the new whale! 8)
Can someone at GREEd please clarify how the new EB twist is "the same" for those players that dominated the event before the change??
I have a guild member that use to finish boss 100 with 1 free hit..............he is now only at boss 55 and already using 6 hits..................
I myself took 3 free hits for boss 100........and now I am only at boss 20 using 2 hits
How is that "the same" for players that dominated the event??????????
Who makes annual performance evaluation of KA design team?
I happily spent a lot of money on this game and solace I had was that I was gaining good stats, I could kill EB, and I could contribute respectfully to RB heroic.
1 - High stats - you killed this by putting new dynamics into war calculation
2 - EB - You made it impossible unless I spent a couple of mountain of gems to complete this event, what seriously makes you thing that we will spent money on a event that we could finish with our free hits?
3 - RB Heroic - God only knows what kind of non-sense you would put into calculation.
Instead of using buzz words like "revamping" just do your job bring in new events, do not change the dynamics of the game, whats the worth of thousands of dollars I spent on this game now. I like being whale, I like being one of the strongest player, I like having the comfort of knowing that I can complete events without taking too much of my time, and you know how I ensure I have all these things that I like, I pay for this game handsomely - and what is your response to me "we are changed dynamics now your stats are worth ****."
You are making all these changes to push people to craft, btw i have yet to see or meet a single person who likes or sees the added value of these idiotic feature, but you failed to offer viable and doable crafting features.
I can guarantee you there is no one, I mean no one in this game that will be able to blast thru EB with your new dynamic. What the hell are you trying to do? Are you trying to make us not spend anything on the game?
EB current forumula:
Hero Equiment Attack (+) Half of Hero Strength Skill (*) EB Attack Boost = Gold Hit
Example:
Hero Equipment Attack is 500
Hero Strength Skill 150
EB Attack Bonus is 32%
500 + (150*0,5) * 1,32 =
500 + 75 *1,32 = 759
Gold Hit = 759
Been stuck on 14/15 boss all day. Keep killing boss 15 and don't get credit. Gree won't respond to my many tickets. Nice qa.
"2 - EB - You made it impossible unless I spent a couple of mountain of gems to complete this event, what seriously makes you thing that we will spent money on a event that we could finish with our free hits?"
You guys have all answered your own question as to why they went ahead and did it. All the big gem spenders were finishing the EB event with out spending a dime. "Killed boss 100 with one free hit" doesn't make them any money.
Now, things are back to where they want it. Free to play, PAY to win!
Not much more to say.
Box event sucks
Trials sucks
Chests as individual war reward sucks
Epic Boss now sucks
If you kill RB too there will not much remain to play the game
I have tried to embrace the change and commit to completing the EB. However, my issue is that KA has not allowed for sufficient time or resources to build up our hero equipment before switching to the new format. If you allowed us the opportunity to obtain equipment that would assist us in accomplishing the event then I don't think people would have been as upset.Quote:
Originally Posted by The red Baron
Also, KA never address the issue of not distributing the correct amount of Mountain Chests during the last war. KA support ignored both my tickets and listing on the forum.
As the motto goes..."If it's not broke...don't fix it!" So that next time when your developers are trying to be clever and institute changes that no one asked for...I would follow that motto!
Anyone know where to find the XP given for each boss in EB? Seems much higher this round, but have no way to check. Thanks.
Sweet {T}