Forgot the reason why you like this game? This are reasons why :

Hello fellow players.
I know lots of you are lately upset about the time when the update was released and with bugs that was or still are in game.
Some are not enjoying war event,they lose because of differences on strength on equipment.
Some of the top players that they builded their stats up now they think that those stats doesn't matter anymore because they are losing from less strong rivals.
I understand why are people upset but let's remember some of things from this game that we have.
I know every change is hard,i know that crafting takes time to build your game as you want to be as strong as it can be.
But remember this that the top player will remain top player because they can finish events and get vouchers to craft things stronger than others.
So your game will stay strong no need to be afraid of that you won't be.
The crafting aspect of the game i think it brought more ways to improve your game,not to build just your raw attack but to build and your allies and your hero,i am shure that top players in time can make their game more stronger that it used to be.
With crafting we will have a new things to craft and not just equipment,let's wait and see ouselfs.
The point of each game should be to evolve and to make it more interesting and not to be bored with it!
In past we had just chance to build and build our raw stats with no strategy at all,you all complained about the lack on strategy.If crafting brings more strategy long term this will benefit and you top players and all others.
Let's wait and see.
Meantime don't be upset about this war event,not worth to be upset about it.
Lets remember why we play this game and it is not just because of building our games to be the strongest,it is and a social aspect of this game,our friends here,our guilds..
So be positive ,i am shure in future you will see that crafting brought something good to the game ...

DragCro, I know you mean well and can only imagine you are a good guy but seriously this post is bull****.

The update sucks big time. Those who had the infinity sword event and completed it have all good stats and are safe, those that didn't participate, finish or simply weren't playing back then. Well they are completely and utterly screwed.

You can try and improve yourself all you want. But some 10-20k stats difference in gear isn't the same as 50-100mill in unit stats. IT IS WORSE!!

I think Gree killed off the reason I liked this game with this new update. I enjoyed raiding, PvP, and conquest events. Battles are so f'ing slow now that they are not at all enjoyable.

This game is unplayable in its current form. The lags of 30 seconds a hit ate ridiculous and while crafting might be a good idea in theory, having no clue why one player has 500k under allie attack vs another with 1k, nor what needs to be done to increase is a game killer.

There should be a clear explanation that says if you increase this, then this will happen. Ie, buy this and this number will increase. Or, having skill allocated here will help with this number.

There is no CLEAR explanation of what impacts where or how to build the various numbers.

This is what will ultimately kill KA.

You've gone full shill. Never go full shill.

i liked the game because i understood it. now i do not have a clue why i am winning battles or losing. i am fine with change, but the lack of communication from GREE is amazing. they cant explain what is happening at all.

the whole thing is appalling - no need for apologist BS

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Originally Posted by DragCro

Lets remember why we play this game and it is not just because of building our games to be the strongest,it is and a social aspect of this game,our friends here,our guilds..
So be positive ,i am shure in future you will see that crafting brought something good to the game ...

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Thanks for confirming why your company believes it can raw dog us across all aspects of all your games

Gree is the reason this game is going down hill and for this thread it's horrible to make us think like/enjoy this ridiculous change is ok because it's not. We play this game so we should take polls or surveys of what we want to change not gree. It's simple we pay so you listen. You never take us costumers for consideration and it's straight up and down bulls$&@! listen to the customers, not your pockets!!!

Change is ok we can adjust how we play the game but the update has made it so we can barely play the game. How can we play a game that takes 3 tries to log in and then take 30 secs to battle or raid and then crash after hitting 3 or 4 times. I want to play a game not watch the spinning circle

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Originally Posted by Lunagirl

Change is ok we can adjust how we play the game but the update has made it so we can barely play the game. How can we play a game that takes 3 tries to log in and then take 30 secs to battle or raid and then crash after hitting 3 or 4 times. I want to play a game not watch the spinning circle

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Is ok? Like the game isn't time consuming enough. That's why a lot of players didn't like legends at war or monster quest because you had to the same thing. It was a pain in the ass.

C'mon Gree - listen to your players! The good ideas are being so poorly executed that they are not relevant.

COMMUNICATE in a TIMELY manner - the simple aspects like , the time to login, the time to hit or move between screens is becoming unplayable - playability is the basic - get this right.

The other basic is CUSTOMER SERViCE - the feedback process is the worst ever, the lack of engagement is strange and the contempt when making change without communication is staggering.

Get the basics right and the. Upgrades like this which SHOULD be a positive will be received as such.

Until then - you are not listening to your customers and think you know better - YOU DONT and have proven it many times.

PLAYABILITY & CUSTOMER SERVICE

DragCro, thank you for your speech. It meant well. We all understand what you are trying to do.

We know why we play this game and we know when to quit. Change is hard, but change with bugs 36 hours before a Conquest is just wrong. You needed to give us time to get accustomed to the change before we had to use our new stats.

Also, please have another moderator proofread your drivel before you send it out. You could also spell and grammar check your writing before sending us this nonsense. It is insulting.

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Originally Posted by Vclone

We all understand what you are trying to do.

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I think you and I have different understandings of what he was trying to do.

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Originally Posted by the_bob

I think you and I have different understandings of what he was trying to do.

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Originally Posted by Vclone

DragCro, thank you for your speech. It meant well. We all understand what you are trying to do.

Also, please have another moderator proofread your drivel before you send it out. You could also spell and grammar check your writing before sending us this nonsense. It is insulting.

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LOL I think he had a different understanding of what he himself meant by the end of his post!

As I read through this forum there is so much negativity......
I agree the patch is frustrating but I just need to learn to adjust. So many of you are complaining just to complain.
We all loved this game becuase the strategy and style of game play that originally was this game. This is just a new level of strategy that the good players will embrace and learn to grow their kingdoms with.
-Kenjo Megi-
-Scions of Abaddon-

I agree with Kenjo.
Some of us remember the times of dragon armies, BD10 runs, being overvault and timing when collecting, raiding like there was no tomorrow. I'd love the nostalgic moments and wouldn't mind seeing them again, granted in a different format.
Do I like the changes, primarily how they were forced upon us with no heads-up? Not at all. That is not how one implements change and therefore shame on Gree. Do I expect more from them? Absolutely, and I hope they learn something from this. I know, crossing my fingers too many times.
If this is something pushing you personally over the edge, I feel for you. Positive comments help or simply decide to quit and spend you money elsewhere. Bring the whole guild with you if that is what you decide, because frankly Gree deserves it. The rest of us can remain, rebuild, raid and buy weapons and armor, which we had to do and should have had to keep doing.
Gree, please explain the whole process clearly to us! Tell us what happens when we allocate points in each skill. Be more transparent, PLEASE. Also, allow us to "respec" once for free and/or build that into the game for a cost or quest goal.
I do remember the good Ole days of spreadsheets, strategy, planning and hope for something similar with my guild-mates to come.

- FK - Foxsmyth
Forum Knights Guild

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Originally Posted by clown

Thanks for confirming why your company believes it can raw dog us across all aspects of all your games

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Originally Posted by Vclone

DragCro, thank you for your speech. It meant well. We all understand what you are trying to do.

We know why we play this game and we know when to quit. Change is hard, but change with bugs 36 hours before a Conquest is just wrong. You needed to give us time to get accustomed to the change before we had to use our new stats.

Also, please have another moderator proofread your drivel before you send it out. You could also spell and grammar check your writing before sending us this nonsense. It is insulting.

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I posted this thread not because of Gree or because of this update,i posted this because i care about this community and players in this game.
I am a player as you are.
I am not here to defend anybody,i'm here posting this because i care..
We all have friends in this game and the only ones that will miss us if we quit are them.
Who knows maybe this changes in time will bring more good things,let's wait and see

top players will remain strong because they can do everything a free player cant.

Drag,

I respect your desire to enjoy the game. This update has done what none of the other *gree ups could do. They lost me as a player of kingdom Age. The game is unrecognizable to someone who has played for a couple years. I am losing to players i have no business losing to in war.

What is truly maddening is that the community whom you care for; gets more respect from you than from the developers.

Good luck to all those truly stubborn players who will suck it out...

in case you can't hear...the fat lady is warming up.

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Originally Posted by the_bob

I think you and I have different understandings of what he was trying to do.

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You thought wrong... Lol.

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Originally Posted by garen argon

Drag,

I respect your desire to enjoy the game. This update has done what none of the other *gree ups could do. They lost me as a player of kingdom Age. The game is unrecognizable to someone who has played for a couple years. I am losing to players i have no business losing to in war.

What is truly maddening is that the community whom you care for; gets more respect from you than from the developers.

Good luck to all those truly stubborn players who will suck it out...

in case you can't hear...the fat lady is warming up.

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I really hope you change your mind and stay playing this game..
With this new update you need to build your army with loot as weapons and armour,i am shure when your army will be full equiped you wont lose..
During battle check the hero(equip)stats of your rival and yours,if it is much stronger than yours you could lose.
But that is just if you lets say have 200 mill stats and your rival have 180 mill stats just in that case it is posible to lose..Always check during the battle all 3 stats

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Originally Posted by DragCro

During battle check the hero(equip)stats of your rival and yours,if it is much stronger than yours you could lose.
But that is just if you lets say have 200 mill stats and your rival have 180 mill stats just in that case it is posible to lose..Always check during the battle all 3 stats

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What an ignorance. With 175million you lose against 85million because he has gear which you can't compeed with in any competitive way at the moment.
Aside from farming monster for some mediocre weapons and armor there is no actual way of getting STRONG weapons and armor that can give you an edge. Crafting equipment (except some vouchers maybe) are just a big joke.
Shoes for 2 attack and 3 defense, yeah that will make a difference for sure...

Just wait until Gree starts giving out equipment strength bonuses. Then things will get really crazy. We will see the same ridiculous inflation that we saw with unit strength/bonuses.

Drag,
You are missing the point!!
People have invested a lot of time,effort and money into this game,and now the dynamics are totally changed!!
It's like buying a new car and then being told "sorry you can no longer buy gas"
The changes can enhance the game and add strategy to it.
The changes have not been thought through,clearly there is now TOO MUCH Emphasis on the equipment and not enough on stats which people have worked so hard to improve!
The Balence is all wrong,as an example a guild mate lost a fight with stats 700m better!! That's 1.3bn Vs 600m !! All because the opponent had 45k more on equipment !! Really,lmao if that's not A Complete Joke I don't know what is.
This is why we have had 4 members retire on this event alone,EXPECT A LOT MORE!!

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Originally Posted by headfaction

You thought wrong... Lol.

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Congrats on being psychic. Tell me. What was my understanding and how was it the same as vclone?

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Originally Posted by KenjoMegi1

As I read through this forum there is so much negativity......
I agree the patch is frustrating but I just need to learn to adjust. So many of you are complaining just to complain.
We all loved this game becuase the strategy and style of game play that originally was this game. This is just a new level of strategy that the good players will embrace and learn to grow their kingdoms with.
-Kenjo Megi-
-Scions of Abaddon-

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Blah blah.. I spent near on good part of two years building my profile.. If wanted to start again would've made a mini.. DragCro..As for building it up again in time.. No. That's why I mindlessly spent my money on gems to begin with.. To have a strong profile.. In a blink of an eye.. You've rendered her near useless..

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Originally Posted by the_bob

Congrats on being psychic. Tell me. What was my understanding and how was it the same as vclone?

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First page Shadows post. Pretty funny lol.

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Originally Posted by Baltimore Bully

First page Shadows post. Pretty funny lol.

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Exactly :D lol.

Shill no better word for it. Afraid of losing his precious status if he doesn't do his overlords bidding and keep the masses quiet.

Get over it already. Stop trying to play the guilt card. If leaving the game is going to destroy those friendships, then they weren't really friendships at all, we're they? If they are true friendships then they will far outlast anything that will happen in any of these pathetic games.

I will ask this though. Hows it feel to be left hanging by our illustrious community managers. Haven't heard a peep out of them on anything in days now, have we?

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Originally Posted by Adm. J(K96)

Shill no better word for it. Afraid of losing his precious status if he doesn't do his overlords bidding and keep the masses quiet.

Get over it already. Stop trying to play the guilt card. If leaving the game is going to destroy those friendships, then they weren't really friendships at all, we're they? If they are true friendships then they will far outlast anything that will happen in any of these pathetic games.

I will ask this though. Hows it feel to be left hanging by our illustrious community managers. Haven't heard a peep out of them on anything in days now, have we?

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From beginning of this game i liked this community and people here,lots of them are my friends,those that i don't know i know that they are friends from somebody in this game,so yes i care when somebody leave and it is not the reason because i am a forum mod,i care because i am the person that cares about others,if you readed posts from my past that you can find it on my profile you would see that i always responded when somebody left!
Each of those persons that played this game leaved somekind of mark on our experience playing this game,those are our friends,our team mates..

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Originally Posted by DragCro

Hello fellow players.
I know lots of you are lately upset about the time when the update was released and with bugs that was or still are in game.
Some are not enjoying war event,they lose because of differences on strength on equipment.
Some of the top players that they builded their stats up now they think that those stats doesn't matter anymore because they are losing from less strong rivals.
I understand why are people upset but let's remember some of things from this game that we have.
I know every change is hard,i know that crafting takes time to build your game as you want to be as strong as it can be.
But remember this that the top player will remain top player because they can finish events and get vouchers to craft things stronger than others.
So your game will stay strong no need to be afraid of that you won't be.
The crafting aspect of the game i think it brought more ways to improve your game,not to build just your raw attack but to build and your allies and your hero,i am shure that top players in time can make their game more stronger that it used to be.
With crafting we will have a new things to craft and not just equipment,let's wait and see ouselfs.
The point of each game should be to evolve and to make it more interesting and not to be bored with it!
In past we had just chance to build and build our raw stats with no strategy at all,you all complained about the lack on strategy.If crafting brings more strategy long term this will benefit and you top players and all others.
Let's wait and see.
Meantime don't be upset about this war event,not worth to be upset about it.
Lets remember why we play this game and it is not just because of building our games to be the strongest,it is and a social aspect of this game,our friends here,our guilds..
So be positive ,i am shure in future you will see that crafting brought something good to the game ...

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Agree drag! Used to spend a lot of time and money on this game. Now spend a little but have fun with my ka friends.

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Originally Posted by _Mas_

Agree drag! Used to spend a lot of time and money on this game. Now spend a little but have fun with my ka friends.

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Glad that you found a balance with the game and real life,and that you are having fun with your friends

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Originally Posted by DragCro

Glad that you found a balance with the game and real life,and that you are having fun with your friends

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HAHA ...my old freind..good to see you again, i still pop on from time to time , just to catch up with FKG and FUN players, game changes friends dont !....i still play with what i have been dealt but its a game and not life.
keep up the good work mate and see if you can get the Dragoons BACK !!!

Jeezum there are some harsh posts here. You guys gotta realize that yes, updates messed up other games as well and people who finished certain events are extremely far ahead of the curve, but complaining really does nothing. It's a game and I realize that. It really isn't about getting old oozes you missed out on, it should be about fun and working to complete events. If you are serious join a serious syn I'm sure nobody will be mad at you. In all of the top 3 GREE games there has been a lot of trouble with updates. We know thay nobody is perfect and that means GREE. Give them some time and I'm sure it will be fixed. In the meantime, how hard can it be to deal with it?

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Originally Posted by Ratma2001

HAHA ...my old freind..good to see you again, i still pop on from time to time , just to catch up with FKG and FUN players, game changes friends dont !....i still play with what i have been dealt but its a game and not life.
keep up the good work mate and see if you can get the Dragoons BACK !!!

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Hey buddy glad to see you and that you are playing here and there.
1:1 me anytime in kakao for chat!
Hope is all good in real life!