Changes to LTQ: Coal Miner’s Slaughter

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03-18-2016, 12:07 PM
IPassButter

Changes to LTQ: Coal Miner’s Slaughter

Greetings My Lieges!

We would like to let you know about some changes we have made to the upcoming LTQ event: Coal Miner’s Slaughter which begins at 3:00PM PST Monday March 21st.

1.) We have lowered the number of normal and heroic goals in the chain. The normal goal chain has been changed from 20 goals to 15 goals. The heroic goal chain has been changed from 30 goals to 20 goals.

2.) In addition we have changed the structure of the haste goal requirements. There will now be separate haste goal chains for the three difficulty levels of the LTQ. So a Haste: Beginner, Haste: Normal, and Haste: Heroic goal chain. There is also a wrapper prize for completing all haste goals. The haste goals will be organized in chains with shorter windows. For example:

Haste: Beginner 1/5 must be completed within 4 hours of the event starting.
Haste: Normal 1/4 must be completed within 8 hours of the start of the event and
Haste: Heroic 1/2 must be completed within 16 hours.

Note: Players can complete the normal LTQ wrapper without completing any of the haste goals. The haste goals represent an extra challenge for extra rewards.

We appreciate your participation and wish you good fortune in the event!
03-18-2016, 12:20 PM
truthteller

This is a nice change as it seems the same format you use in MW, which is good for ALL players as each players can achieve some of the bonuses

Please just keep in mind to provide at the lower tiers (think of all the free players out there) some nice bonuses that will be useful for them (Hint: energy/health regen)
03-18-2016, 01:08 PM
Laura TCK

Thanks for the change but yet again Europe will suffer so 8hrs for normal haste that starts at 11pm UK time when we change our clocks next week so would have to stay up all night so again won't be even bothering, haste should start from the first hit on the event
03-18-2016, 01:18 PM
hekfhelgh

Nice try, so EUROPE can't participate at this event.
We are sleeping at this times here in the old world!

Gree give us the same chances as US? I don't think so
03-18-2016, 01:43 PM
Lord Vyper

I really like the idea to let hast start with the first hit onn a LTQ mob - that would solve the time zone problem for haste (not for the complete event but at least for the haste part.
I hope gree will consider this
03-18-2016, 02:05 PM
Shadows

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Vyper

I really like the idea to let hast start with the first hit onn a LTQ mob - that would solve the time zone problem for haste (not for the complete event but at least for the haste part.
I hope gree will consider this

Great idea, Vyper!!
03-19-2016, 05:25 AM
Zepson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Vyper

I really like the idea to let hast start with the first hit onn a LTQ mob - that would solve the time zone problem for haste (not for the complete event but at least for the haste part.
I hope gree will consider this

Good idea but... Asking gree to put up a script for this would be a disaster as all their "normal" quests never run bug/glitch free.
They are just not capable of putting up something new without major problems.
03-19-2016, 06:14 AM
Duke of Earl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zepson

Good idea but... Asking gree to put up a script for this would be a disaster as all their "normal" quests never run bug/glitch free.
They are just not capable of putting up something new without major problems.

HaHa. Sad, but true
03-19-2016, 06:47 AM
Metsrock9931

Quote:

Originally Posted by IPassButter

Greetings My Lieges!

We would like to let you know about some changes we have made to the upcoming LTQ event: Coal Miner’s Slaughter which begins at 3:00PM PST Monday March 21st.

1.) We have lowered the number of normal and heroic goals in the chain. The normal goal chain has been changed from 20 goals to 15 goals. The heroic goal chain has been changed from 30 goals to 20 goals.

2.) In addition we have changed the structure of the haste goal requirements. There will now be separate haste goal chains for the three difficulty levels of the LTQ. So a Haste: Beginner, Haste: Normal, and Haste: Heroic goal chain. There is also a wrapper prize for completing all haste goals. The haste goals will be organized in chains with shorter windows. For example:

Haste: Beginner 1/5 must be completed within 4 hours of the event starting.
Haste: Normal 1/4 must be completed within 8 hours of the start of the event and
Haste: Heroic 1/2 must be completed within 16 hours. !

With the lowering of goals, does this mean the health of mobs are the same as our current goals, lowered, or higher. Key point because if you increased the health to current standards and lowered goals, all players still will not have a chance to complete. I have high energy return and I completed one event by having to use 65 energy packs. That was one attempt and last time until this is changed. Concerned about where the mob health is. Can you give us a guideline for each level needs? We need to know what we are needing so we can plan. It tends to always be a guessing game for us. Thanks.
03-20-2016, 05:32 AM
Noor

Please do something to prevent Euros from always getting screwed. Timer count starting with first mob hit was an awsome idea, I hope that can be done. Because we always fall behind when events start midnight our time, and it is hard to catch up. Timezones should not be punishing players.
03-21-2016, 12:07 AM
Koad

I can only emphasize to change the time events start. As a Euro player, I always need to stay awake unitl midnight on the days new events start (at least you can be sure now, that a new iLTQ will start after the previous one ends).
Starting them earlier would put Asia a bit behind though.
I remember about 3 years ago, there were events starting at completely different times to favor all time zones at a certain event.

Nevertheless, starting a haste quest when a big part of the player base is dreaming about better times is just a kick in the nuts...
03-21-2016, 03:22 PM
JamieF

Great way to give the finger to your European player base.
03-22-2016, 02:24 AM
Jnsolberg

I think that starting all the haste timers when the first hit is takes, would be fair to all players. Have the haste timer auto start after 24 hours anyway. Of course, that means the we can't have a 24 hour ILTQ anymore, but that shouldn't be a problem.

These are smart devices that we play on. A good programmer should be able to figure it out.
03-22-2016, 02:57 AM
Koad

It's basically similar coding to the timers on timed epic and/or raid bosses, which are proven to be working on individual and guild parts. So I don't see a big problem there.

I personally like the new style of the iLTQs, except the part for haste of course. Looks like heroic is possible to finish without having to use refills. I like also that the times to finish haste increases on every step. Those haste rewards (different steps on beginner, normal, heroic + another haste for finishing complete event) give a nice incentive to the iLTQ to what Stark mentioned in another thread (scalable LTQ). One can choose to spend on any haste reward or just go the "normal" path.

Europe is kinda lucky at this event, because we didn't change our clock up to now leading to an event starting time of 11PM in central europe. But please, please, please Gree implement those changes in haste.
03-22-2016, 04:02 AM
Lord Vyper

Gree please help - the haste has to be changes to 'start with first mob'...

After a 3 day battle many guild mates have been tired and went to bed - waking up today to see that they can not do haste for beginners and normal anymore (really nice rewards btw...). This is really frustrating and turns a good idea (I really like the new format - but not the timetzone problem) into the opposite....
03-22-2016, 11:10 AM
sdunn00

Our European players are definitely disadvantaged. I do like the idea of starting the timer ticking down when individuals start the ILTQ questline....if that can't happen an alternative might be a start time adjustment
03-23-2016, 06:12 AM
E-I

This was a good LTQ. I liked the concept a lot. But it is also true that it puts many time zones in a massive disadvantage.
03-23-2016, 06:33 AM
Jnsolberg

I'm Eastern USA and the Final Haste ended at 6am local time, which means that I had to finish before I went to bed. This ILTQ is inconvenient for all us us at one time or another. Starting the haste timer with our first hit would be great for everyone!
03-24-2016, 01:43 PM
Metsrock9931

Agree on the time zone and agree this was a more achievable quest. See Gree, the high level players that have worked hard to build strength should have an easier challenge, those that have lower time spent in the game should find it more challenging. My accounts vary over the near 4 years playing the game. I spent gems on all accounts but it was only because it was achievable. Last several quests you have had were not achievable unless over a mountain of gems were used. You are making progress to your customers. Keep improving and please do not screw it up, you are heading in the right direction.
03-24-2016, 02:50 PM
The red Baron

Haste quests with times lower 12h will alltimes be unfair for a part of the players. May be those quests could start by time zone (local time 08.00 f.e) E1 would have the same chance.
03-26-2016, 07:27 AM
Jnsolberg

Quote:

Originally Posted by IPassButter

Greetings My Lieges!

We would like to let you know about some changes we have made to the upcoming LTQ event: Coal Miner’s Slaughter which begins at 3:00PM PST Monday March 21st.

1.) We have lowered the number of normal and heroic goals in the chain. The normal goal chain has been changed from 20 goals to 15 goals. The heroic goal chain has been changed from 30 goals to 20 goals.

2.) In addition we have changed the structure of the haste goal requirements. There will now be separate haste goal chains for the three difficulty levels of the LTQ. So a Haste: Beginner, Haste: Normal, and Haste: Heroic goal chain. There is also a wrapper prize for completing all haste goals. The haste goals will be organized in chains with shorter windows. For example:

Haste: Beginner 1/5 must be completed within 4 hours of the event starting.
Haste: Normal 1/4 must be completed within 8 hours of the start of the event and
Haste: Heroic 1/2 must be completed within 16 hours.

Note: Players can complete the normal LTQ wrapper without completing any of the haste goals. The haste goals represent an extra challenge for extra rewards.

We appreciate your participation and wish you good fortune in the event!

Overall, we liked this event. (It would be nice if you can have the "Haste" clock start with the first hit though)

The current ILTQ, "The Collier's March". Is just like the ILTQs we have been having. 5200 energy for Normal, 32,885 for Heroic. I thought we saw the last of that kind of LTQ.