Fuzing Armors Results Thread

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Originally Posted by Marco_

Sir., a reason to do try 3-star + 3-star fusions is that if the result is a failure, new materials is a lot easier to aquire and base crafting time is 2x 1 day compared to Summoning Stone up to 25 * 30 gems and 2x 3 days for 4-star...
I myself have 120 fusion stones in the bank and it's not really going down, a bunch of 50EP armors and fusion boost armors cluttering my armor slots, DP+ waiting for a guild fusion boost quest to max it and get rid of 4 stupid fusion boost armors, Roc+ too low level to apply 50EP armors without it being kind of a waste, Assasin+ still crafting and then needing lots of leveling before 50EP armors are of use.
In such a case IMNSHO fusing 3-star armors is a sensible thing to do: takes relatively little time, doesn't use up almost non-replacable resources and only takes up 2 armor slots, which are one of the biggest bottlenecks in this game for me.
With lots of luck, you can get an epic and with a bit of luck a good legendary.
Myself, I just haven't hit that luck yet:
Dark Prince + Swamp Shaman -> Spectral Captain
Infernal + Spectral -> Steam Wizard

tl;dr: you're only looking at it from the "fusion stones, followed by EP are the bottlenecks" p.o.v.

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Thats what i'm trying to say for about some days. By the way...

The best combination i'm thinking about is notus regular (never got to 43, only ~70 mats) and leviathan, which i got 101. After unlocking the plus version, i will stock them until i know that cloudrange is fuseable.
4*water+4*air/spirit=
5* moontide
5* cloudrange?
4* blackfrost
3* spectrail
3* storm sorcer

Those seems to be high odds for an useful armor.
A better fusion efficient for epics?

So I risked it and make another fusion. I fused

Wanderers Shroud + Boreas = Blazeborne Vanguard

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Originally Posted by Sakino

Thats what i'm trying to say for about some days. By the way...

The best combination i'm thinking about is notus regular (never got to 43, only ~70 mats) and leviathan, which i got 101. After unlocking the plus version, i will stock them until i know that cloudrange is fuseable.
4*water+4*air/spirit=
5* moontide
5* cloudrange?
4* blackfrost
3* spectrail
3* storm sorcer

Those seems to be high odds for an useful armor.
A better fusion efficient for epics?

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These are all really sensible. I used my notus regular with my phyrus regular and got ruby platemail. I also have the leviathan now. I'm hoping for a wind armor, or a spirit armor. (Should have kept faerie keeper). I think I'll wait for the next legendary and hope it's fire/water, maybe fuse into it.

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Originally Posted by Tahimaka

I just fused Levithan (level. 1) + Notus (level. 14) = Moontide Platemail (level. 10)

I AM SO HAPPY WITH THIS FUSION

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Congrats!!! :)

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Originally Posted by Marco_

Sir., a reason to do try 3-star + 3-star fusions is that if the result is a failure, new materials is a lot easier to aquire and base crafting time is 2x 1 day compared to Summoning Stone up to 25 * 30 gems and 2x 3 days for 4-star...
I myself have 120 fusion stones in the bank and it's not really going down, a bunch of 50EP armors and fusion boost armors cluttering my armor slots, DP+ waiting for a guild fusion boost quest to max it and get rid of 4 stupid fusion boost armors, Roc+ too low level to apply 50EP armors without it being kind of a waste, Assasin+ still crafting and then needing lots of leveling before 50EP armors are of use.
In such a case IMNSHO fusing 3-star armors is a sensible thing to do: takes relatively little time, doesn't use up almost non-replacable resources and only takes up 2 armor slots, which are one of the biggest bottlenecks in this game for me.
With lots of luck, you can get an epic and with a bit of luck a good legendary.
Myself, I just haven't hit that luck yet:
Dark Prince + Swamp Shaman -> Spectral Captain
Infernal + Spectral -> Steam Wizard

tl;dr: you're only looking at it from the "fusion stones, followed by EP are the bottlenecks" p.o.v.

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EP is a bottleneck, as are fusion stones. When you get to the stage where you get past the story armors (which imo are not quite worth maxing anyway) you'll definitely be short of them. Maxing an armor with an element matching to snakeskin takes 22-23 fs, if they don't match it takes 42-43. 9/15 element cominations contain either water or earth (or both), so 30 fs per week on average (22*0.6+42*0.4). This is from only maxing out epic boss armors. Unless you buy chests for enhancing, you won't get this many on a weekly basis from just 8 gold keys and bronze medal arena (which is max you can get without buying AE). Simple conclusion: you will get short of EP/fs in due time, unless you buy chests.

This being said, look at what you're giving up: 48 hours of armorsmith (don't underestimate this! this equals a LOT of ep too), 2x 90 ep and 50 ep from the fusion stone. You're most likely to end up with a ** armor, it already requires luck to get a **** non-plus, of which most are useless. Average at best. Very long shot at an epic, which you have to consider also takes a lot of time and mats to max. Costs are big, outcomes no more than marginal.

You give summoning stone as other option. I say that's just a ridiculous idea in any case. My other option is much simpler: don't fuse.

Fuse only when you have 2x **** that give outcomes that make the possibilities of something useful decent. It will never get better than decent, but at least with good outcomes.

Focus on your weekly EB + armors, this gives you some spare **** armors too. When a good opportunity arises use those lvl 35 reg versions to fuse. The EB + armors will keep you occupied in the meantime, not to mention other armors from gw or perhaps future events like with BKal+. This fusion enthusiasm is an utter waste, numbers don't lie.

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Originally Posted by Sakino

Thats what i'm trying to say for about some days. By the way...

The best combination i'm thinking about is notus regular (never got to 43, only ~70 mats) and leviathan, which i got 101. After unlocking the plus version, i will stock them until i know that cloudrange is fuseable.
4*water+4*air/spirit=
5* moontide
5* cloudrange?
4* blackfrost
3* spectrail
3* storm sorcer

Those seems to be high odds for an useful armor.
A better fusion efficient for epics?

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I think it's quite safe to say that cloudrange isn't fusable. It would have probably been confirmed already if it were. Water/fire + mono spirit I believe to be the best shot at an epic. There are no f/s outcomes, so it leaves you with only the epic's element combinations as possible outcomes.

How can I fuse a ruby plate male with no ancient dragons?

Greeting My K&D Brothers and Sisters!! Well I fused a Phyrus (lvl 31) + Eurus (lvl 26) and got a Blazeborne Vanguard (lvl 29)!!!! That's right, not only did I get a 5 Star Legendary but it already at lvl 29/99!!! I had to share!!!

Long Live Guild - "Flame Fighters"!!!! Level 20 and only getting stronger!!!!

Cheers to all,

WBB-CDF-ZMC Level 77
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Originally Posted by Chalamala

Greeting My K&D Brothers and Sisters!! Well I fused a Phyrus (lvl 31) + Eurus (lvl 26) and got a Blazeborne Vanguard (lvl 29)!!!! That's right, not only did I get a 5 Star Legendary but it already at lvl 29/99!!! I had to share!!!

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Yes, resulting armor being the average level of the source armors is a well known fact. :p

Wanderer's Shroud + Assassin's Shroud = Blazeborne Vanguard :)

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Originally Posted by Sir.

EP is a bottleneck, as are fusion stones. When you get to the stage where you get past the story armors (which imo are not quite worth maxing anyway) you'll definitely be short of them. Maxing an armor with an element matching to snakeskin takes 22-23 fs, if they don't match it takes 42-43. 9/15 element cominations contain either water or earth (or both), so 30 fs per week on average (22*0.6+42*0.4). This is from only maxing out epic boss armors. Unless you buy chests for enhancing, you won't get this many on a weekly basis from just 8 gold keys and bronze medal arena (which is max you can get without buying AE). Simple conclusion: you will get short of EP/fs in due time, unless you buy chests.

This being said, look at what you're giving up: 48 hours of armorsmith (don't underestimate this! this equals a LOT of ep too), 2x 90 ep and 50 ep from the fusion stone. You're most likely to end up with a ** armor, it already requires luck to get a **** non-plus, of which most are useless. Average at best. Very long shot at an epic, which you have to consider also takes a lot of time and mats to max. Costs are big, outcomes no more than marginal.

You give summoning stone as other option. I say that's just a ridiculous idea in any case. My other option is much simpler: don't fuse.

Fuse only when you have 2x **** that give outcomes that make the possibilities of something useful decent. It will never get better than decent, but at least with good outcomes.

Focus on your weekly EB + armors, this gives you some spare **** armors too. When a good opportunity arises use those lvl 35 reg versions to fuse. The EB + armors will keep you occupied in the meantime, not to mention other armors from gw or perhaps future events like with BKal+. This fusion enthusiasm is an utter waste, numbers don't lie.

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Nah, armory capacity and crafting capacity will always be bigger bottlenecks for me.
Armory hardly ever has more than 8 usable slots (just enough for 4x uncommon_lvl11) and often has to have armors applied sub-optimally to other armors when arena and epic boss again throw armor junk at it.
To play this game less sub-optimally, you'd probably need a guild that provides you with element bonusses while at the same time allowing you to not contribute gold and allowing you to have 4-5 smiths, so those stupid boss armors don't clogg up at least 1/3rd of your smithing capacity for about 5 1/2 days per boss and you can quickly enough level them far enough that fusion armors become efficent there.

All the junk armor from tournaments and epic boss plus boost armors from guild contributions and gold keys cover a large part of your percieved fusion stone gap.
IIRC I got both Swamp+ and Infernal+ maxed without using any fusion stones at all and the few fusion stones used on DP+ were only used when armory space allowed it and a guild quests demanded it.

Also: mindlessly grinding on enhancing the weekly boss armors is just dumb. Focus on what element combos you're lacking first. So unless I find or fuse a better alternative, Roc+ will get priority over Aegis of the Fallen non-plus and plus, since I already have DP+ and 2x LF+ for fire/spirit. That's about 6700 EP and lots of gold I can spend elsewhere; much more than a few silly 50 EP armors...
- I don't buy chests at all
- I think I might have used up about 30 fusion stones in total in 1 1/2 months, including the ones used for storyline quests and I still have 120 in stock that I can't use because of all the 50 EP and fusion boost armors clogging up my armory. :(
I doubt my fusion stones will drop below 100 before I'm working on leveling an Epic armor.
</off topic since I don't mention a single fusion result>

also how do you get a wanderers shroud

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Originally Posted by ~Nate~

also how do you get a wanderers shroud

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Boss armor from about 1 1/2 months ago. If you weren't there to fight the Wandering Flame, then no way to get it any more.
@your Ruby Plate Mail question: you're confusing armors for elements. No dragon armors needed, just an armor with fire in it and a whole lot of luck when fusing. (well, more luck would be straight getting Blaze and not having to re-try with Ruby)

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Originally Posted by Marco_

Boss armor from about 1 1/2 months ago. If you weren't there to fight the Wandering Flame, then no way to get it any more.
@your Ruby Plate Mail question: you're confusing armors for elements. No dragon armors needed, just an armor with fire in it and a whole lot of luck when fusing. (well, more luck would be straight getting Blaze and not having to re-try with Ruby)

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What kind of fire armor?

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Originally Posted by ~Nate~

What kind of fire armor?

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Any kind has a chance. You could fuse a basic fire with anything else and there is a chance, although extremely small, to get Ruby. It seems the higher the stars on an armor, the higher the chance to get a high quality result. However, "higher" is relative. It is still not an actual high chance to get something good.

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Originally Posted by Sir.

EP is a bottleneck, as are fusion stones. When you get to the stage where you get past the story armors (which imo are not quite worth maxing anyway) you'll definitely be short of them. Maxing an armor with an element matching to snakeskin takes 22-23 fs, if they don't match it takes 42-43. 9/15 element cominations contain either water or earth (or both), so 30 fs per week on average (22*0.6+42*0.4). This is from only maxing out epic boss armors. Unless you buy chests for enhancing, you won't get this many on a weekly basis from just 8 gold keys and bronze medal arena (which is max you can get without buying AE). Simple conclusion: you will get short of EP/fs in due time, unless you buy chests.

This being said, look at what you're giving up: 48 hours of armorsmith (don't underestimate this! this equals a LOT of ep too), 2x 90 ep and 50 ep from the fusion stone. You're most likely to end up with a ** armor, it already requires luck to get a **** non-plus, of which most are useless. Average at best. Very long shot at an epic, which you have to consider also takes a lot of time and mats to max. Costs are big, outcomes no more than marginal.

You give summoning stone as other option. I say that's just a ridiculous idea in any case. My other option is much simpler: don't fuse.

Fuse only when you have 2x **** that give outcomes that make the possibilities of something useful decent. It will never get better than decent, but at least with good outcomes.

Focus on your weekly EB + armors, this gives you some spare **** armors too. When a good opportunity arises use those lvl 35 reg versions to fuse. The EB + armors will keep you occupied in the meantime, not to mention other armors from gw or perhaps future events like with BKal+. This fusion enthusiasm is an utter waste, numbers don't lie.



I think it's quite safe to say that cloudrange isn't fusable. It would have probably been confirmed already if it were. Water/fire + mono spirit I believe to be the best shot at an epic. There are no f/s outcomes, so it leaves you with only the epic's element combinations as possible outcomes.

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SIR. Dot
Please make a leveling guide and put it in your siggy.
I will help us that have fused our desired legendaries and epics.
Kind regards,
Dagobah