Fuzing Armors Results Thread

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Originally Posted by Revelate

AFAIK level of the initial armors is absolutely irrelevant to what's produced in the fusion result other than what level the resulting armor is. (A+B)/2 for resulting armor if A is the first armor's level, and B is the second armor's level.

Two 3 stars can indeed come out with a two star, which is why many people suggest fusing anything below 4 stars is a waste of resources.

If you have infinite resources you can test fusions of possibly multiple maxxed 3 stars, but honestly the resources are better spent elsewhere short of that corner case.

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Indeed, lvl shouldn't normally matter, but I see where (s)he is coming from.

The new fused armor will be half way between the the highest level armor and the lowest level armor.

Now both 1* and 2* armor max out at level 50, whereas a 3* will max out at lvl 70.

Now lets say you have a level 51 armor and a level 61 armor, you should get a level 56 armor. It would be impossible to get a lvl 56 1* or 2*, so it would make sense for the armor to have to be at least 3*.

Although it may be able to just create a maxed out lvl 50 armor. I've not tried it, but I understand where (s)he is coming from.

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Originally Posted by moongoose

Did a few fusions to get inventory space and got

Guardians battlegear
Blazeborne vanguard
Sky guardian
Blackfrost raiment
Clayplate mantle

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Don't feel like saying what you combined to get them then?

Phyrus 35 + Notus 35 = Cloudking 35 :( Hoping for Blazeborne
Cloudking + Wanderer = Combustion :) Good enough for me!

Boreas + Mountainvine = Cloudking :( (Hoping for clayplate)

Infernal + Spectral = Asura Twice and some other junk 2 star the 3rd time! Leveled to 20 frist and the other 2 pairs were +.
Swamp20 + Roc 20 = Spectral 20

I now have Dark Prince 20, Spectral 20, Eurus 35 and cloudking 19 to play with.
I have materials to make 2 more sets of swamp and roc, anyone have any luck getting anything good from those or should I try my 20 DP with swamp?

I have the 4 dragons +, should get BK+ and I have fused combustion.
I am leveling Boreas+, Phyrus+, and Combustion while hoarding until android releases dragon awards.

If another 5 gem summon happens I will get assasin+ & slimebane+ if I don't get guardian and clayplate through fusion (also hoping for a boilerplate fusion). I will likely also skip to Aegis of the fallen and skip DP and all the bigger 4 even tough I leveled to 20 to unlock the +.
When the opportunity for bk+ showed up I splurged a little after having gotten many summon stoned dragons with videos (which dried up halfway through the dragon event).
I don't see me having luck for epics but I will level Eurus+ near last in the hopes of Moontide fusing.

Any suggestions? I clear the elite DP castle 5 times daily with the help of friends until I finish leveling my armours, what armour set ups should I focus on for leveling as I should be 95 soon?
Any advice is greatly appreciated as I followed the suggestion of the big 4 which helped me immensely. My AA+50 was accidentally enhanced but I now have Boreas+50 to replace it. Would've been nice to have had both with Cirus for leviathan, but oh well...

Everyone know the biscuit-looking shield of montide, no? I just fused roc god and swamp shaman, and everyone know that the first sprites that someone see of the armors are the sides, so the shield.
I nearly got a heart attack. Half waked up, take the ipad, and fuse those armors. Look what i get out?
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/...ps358960b9.jpg the shields were pratically the same, so i got first an heart attack cause to the moontide thinking, and a second cause i realized is this one. Will try again soon.

how i wish that aegis of drg can be fused! or amr can be brought with money!

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Originally Posted by shukai84

how i wish that aegis of drg can be fused! or amr can be brought with money!

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It can be... Gems and the DPC lol.
But truly my best gems spent on armour has been the summoning stone and fusing.
I did an 11 DPC on a 3 times legendary event and got 1 legendary Mountainvineand junk. Lesson learned...
The 4 Dragon + event for the BK+ was pretty close to a buy a cool + armour event if you spent on the summoning stone.

I got Firestone fiery from combining wing walker and dragon flame Armor

Extensive Research Results

Below is a list of the combos i have tried over the last 2 months. Got some luck... but mainly unlucky. Also i tried some dumb combos just to see. My conclusion is: Fuse Combine must use the same chance formula that the DB chests use cause legendarys are rare as anything.

I am in dire need to get a cloud king so i can fuse it with the current boss for some epic luck :) Hope this helps

Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Ruby Platemail
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Armor of the Infernal Lord
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Guardian's Battlegear
Ruby Platemail + Armor of Boreas = Blazeborne Vanguard
Tempered Battlegear + Armor of Notus = Blazeborne Vanguard
Stormrage + Living Flame = Hydra Hunter's Mail
Dark Prince's Royal Armor+ + Storm Sorcerer+ = Barbarian Raiding Gear
Barbarian Raiding Gear + Armor of Eurus = Blazeborne Vanguard
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Lightning Lord + Molten Shroud = Rageborne Raiment
Royal Flame + Flowstone Battlegear = Brawlers Armor
Wind Monarch + Volcanic Mantle = Living Flame
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Wind Monarch
Swamp Shaman + Rocfeather = Monstrous Garb
Lightning Lord + Brawlers Armor = Exorcists Vestments
Exorcists Vestments + Rageborne Raiment = Living Flame
Monstrous Garb + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Riverstone + Wind Monarch = Atlantean Avenger
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Chimera Corps Uniform
Stonescale Plate Mail + Wing Warrior's Armor = Crius Armor
Stonescale Plate Mail + Wing Warrior's Armor = Crius Armor
Fire Fusion Boost + Air Fusion Boost = Barbarian Raiding Gear
Air Fusion Boost + Water Fusion Boost = Atlantean Avenger
Hydra Hunter's Mail + Crius Armor = Swamp Shaman
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Crius Armor
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Chimera Corps Uniform
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Monks Vestments
Snakeskin + Wind Monarch = Storm Sorcerer
Snakeskin + Wind Monarch = Atlantean Avenger
Atlantean Avenger + Brawlers Armor = Flowstone Battlegear
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Flamestorm Finery
Flamestorm Finery + Monks Vestments = Crius Armor
Storm Sorcerer + Armor of the Infernal Lord = Riverstone Mantle
Stormrage + Royal Flame = Glacier Armor

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Originally Posted by Cind3r

Extensive Research Results

Below is a list of the combos i have tried over the last 2 months. Got some luck... but mainly unlucky. Also i tried some dumb combos just to see. My conclusion is: Fuse Combine must use the same chance formula that the DB chests use cause legendarys are rare as anything.


I am in dire need to get a cloud king so i can fuse it with the current boss for some epic luck :) Hope this helps

Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Ruby Platemail
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Armor of the Infernal Lord
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Guardian's Battlegear
Ruby Platemail + Armor of Boreas = Blazeborne Vanguard
Tempered Battlegear + Armor of Notus = Blazeborne Vanguard
Stormrage + Living Flame = Hydra Hunter's Mail
Dark Prince's Royal Armor+ + Storm Sorcerer+ = Barbarian Raiding Gear
Barbarian Raiding Gear + Armor of Eurus = Blazeborne Vanguard
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Lightning Lord + Molten Shroud = Rageborne Raiment
Royal Flame + Flowstone Battlegear = Brawlers Armor
Wind Monarch + Volcanic Mantle = Living Flame
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Wind Monarch
Swamp Shaman + Rocfeather = Monstrous Garb
Lightning Lord + Brawlers Armor = Exorcists Vestments
Exorcists Vestments + Rageborne Raiment = Living Flame
Monstrous Garb + Living Flame = Molten Shroud
Riverstone + Wind Monarch = Atlantean Avenger
Crius Armor + Living Flame = Chimera Corps Uniform
Stonescale Plate Mail + Wing Warrior's Armor = Crius Armor
Stonescale Plate Mail + Wing Warrior's Armor = Crius Armor
Fire Fusion Boost + Air Fusion Boost = Barbarian Raiding Gear
Air Fusion Boost + Water Fusion Boost = Atlantean Avenger
Hydra Hunter's Mail + Crius Armor = Swamp Shaman
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Crius Armor
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Chimera Corps Uniform
Wind Monarch + Snakeskin = Monks Vestments
Snakeskin + Wind Monarch = Storm Sorcerer
Snakeskin + Wind Monarch = Atlantean Avenger
Atlantean Avenger + Brawlers Armor = Flowstone Battlegear
Torchflame Mantle + Flowstone Battlegear = Flamestorm Finery
Flamestorm Finery + Monks Vestments = Crius Armor
Storm Sorcerer + Armor of the Infernal Lord = Riverstone Mantle
Stormrage + Royal Flame = Glacier Armor

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This is awesome man good stuff. I'm trying desperately to get my hands on the cloud king as well. I fused away my set alone time ago :(

Swamp + roc = lightning Lord. Again....grr.

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Originally Posted by Splat

I used the spreadsheet but would like to confirm my results as this was my first time attempting to predict possible outcomes of a fusion.

If I fuse a 4 star mono-fire and a 4 star mono-water, what are my possible results?

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discaimer: run against a copy of the spreadsheet 2 days old and I hope my SQL query crafting has been OK. Assumed that 2x 4-star doesn't result in anything below 3-star. Boss armors I guess to be too recent to fuse preceded by a "#" mark. Sorted by maxcombined, descending.
Fusion options for 4-star mono-fire and mono-water:

name maxatk maxdef maxcombined
Blazeborne Vanguard 1654 1459 3113
Boilerplate Armor 873 1149 2022
Flamehunter's Garb 990 989 1979
#Wanderer's Shroud 854 1009 1863
Jian's Battlegear 1056 798 1854
#Hydromancer's Mantle 854 771 1625
Ruby Plate Mail 798 581 1379
Steampowered Exoskeleton 684 684 1368
Chitinous Armor 608 746 1354

The other options if you don't get Blazeborne would have been great on the last boss and therefore probably won't be super useful on bosses for a while, but fallback options of mono-fire + 'N' fusion seem not that great. :( Boreas (air/water) instead of mono-water would also give you a shot at Combustion (air/fire) if you don't get Blazeborne [1]. (though that won't be very useful if you already got Combustion+ from guild wars...)



[1] adds some other air/fire and air armors too though...

I really like Combustion armor not because of the states it's just look so wonderful!

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Originally Posted by Splat

I used the spreadsheet but would like to confirm my results as this was my first time attempting to predict possible outcomes of a fusion.

If I fuse a 4 star mono-fire and a 4 star mono-water, what are my possible results?

Is there a combination of 2 armors that have a higher possibility of yielding a blazeborn than these?

I know the standard response to these questions is 'use the spreadsheet' but I figured I would double check with you all to make sure I'm reading it right.

Thanks in advance to anyone that takes the time to help out!

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Since you got a few wrong answers before, these are your results for **** mono's water+fire:

Vanguard
Boilerplate
Flamehunter
Ruby

Not exactly worth the odds imo.

For getting Vanguard from fusion my most adviced combination would still be fire/water + mono spirit. Since Cloudrange has not been confirmed as fusable I'd go for the combination to get either Vanguard or Moontide with the fewest possible extra outcomes. Since fire/spirit, mono spirit and mono water don't have any possible outcomes when combining 2x **** you are left with only the results for mono fire and water/spirit, the two exact combinations you're looking for. The possible results are:

Vanguard
Ruby
Moontide
Blackfrost
Spectral

Hope this helps you to better understand fusing strategies for epics. :)

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Originally Posted by KioJalxsu

Indeed, lvl shouldn't normally matter, but I see where (s)he is coming from.

The new fused armor will be half way between the the highest level armor and the lowest level armor.

Now both 1* and 2* armor max out at level 50, whereas a 3* will max out at lvl 70.

Now lets say you have a level 51 armor and a level 61 armor, you should get a level 56 armor. It would be impossible to get a lvl 56 1* or 2*, so it would make sense for the armor to have to be at least 3*.

Although it may be able to just create a maxed out lvl 50 armor. I've not tried it, but I understand where (s)he is coming from.

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You will get a maxed out lvl 50 armor, has been priorely confirmed.

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Originally Posted by Dagobah

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Any suggestions? I clear the elite DP castle 5 times daily with the help of friends until I finish leveling my armours, what armour set ups should I focus on for leveling as I should be 95 soon?
Any advice is greatly appreciated as I followed the suggestion of the big 4 which helped me immensely. My AA+50 was accidentally enhanced but I now have Boreas+50 to replace it. Would've been nice to have had both with Cirus for leviathan, but oh well...

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My suggestion would be to not be too eager to fuse. Just focus on enhancing your good armors and keep your fusion stones for making 50 ep armors. Only when you need a new, good armor to max and you have the **** armors that give good probabilities at this armor try fusing them, but analyze the possible results carefully. In most occassions 2 double element armors give you too many possible outcomes to make the fusion worth it. Never fuse anything higher than basics or lower than ****, as you are most likely to downgrade your armor, which is a great waste of ep.

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Originally Posted by Cind3r

Extensive Research Results

Below is a list of the combos i have tried over the last 2 months. Got some luck... but mainly unlucky. [...]

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You upgraded at least half your armors. I'd say you're VERY lucky with those results. Fusing normally means downgrading in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Sir.

Since you got a few wrong answers before, these are your results for **** mono's water+fire:

Vanguard
Boilerplate
Flamehunter
Ruby

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Where exactly is the "boss armor not fusable anymore" cutoff?
Jian might be after it, but I don't think Chitinous is.
And Steampowered doesn't seem to be a boss armor at all, so I don't see why that one shouldn't be on the list..
The spreadsheet could use a "can be fused" column... :-|

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Originally Posted by Marco_

Where exactly is the "boss armor not fusable anymore" cutoff?
Jian might be after it, but I don't think Chitinous is.
And Steampowered doesn't seem to be a boss armor at all, so I don't see why that one shouldn't be on the list..
The spreadsheet could use a "can be fused" column... :-|

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I agree that column would be a good addition. Exo wasn't a boss armor but a chest armor (craftable too, but materials only attainable from gold chest), chitinous is behind the cut off. The only **** boss armors I can currently think of that have been confirmed fusable are Cloud King and Ruby, no others at all.

Eitherway, this is based on what armors have been confirmed fusable, by the experiences of a fair amount of veteran players. I'm sure that if it would have been possible to fuse these two (old) armors, it would have been confirmed a long time ago.