Finally, all those members of 11-25 guilds can actually have some good armor to use against all the new content.
lol.
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Finally, all those members of 11-25 guilds can actually have some good armor to use against all the new content.
lol.
I predict that top 25 will just end up being super expensive the way top 10 is now. PEople will get more accustomed to spending more, and free players will have a wider gap to deal with. With that being said, I imagine 800-1000 gem minimum per member for top 25 from this point forward, if it isn't already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
Not SUPER expensive. Forgestone has been fuseable for awhile now.
I already have it. I'm not spending my gems to get it as a war reward.
But one of the big things we've been trying to say is that better rewards = more competition = more gems spent = more revenue for GREE.
So, it would be nice if that happens and then maybe in a little while they'll throw a bone to 26-50 as well.
Don't be so sure yet. You can't say "better rewards = more competition = more gems spent = more revenue for GREE" until AFTER the war and you see a dramatic increase in points, to the point that you HAVE TO attribute it to gem spending. Again, you're counting your chickens before they're hatched, like I've said before. I really hope that there DOES end up being an increase, and the better rewards continue. Maybe it'll make the game more fun for more people, and there is hope for more change. Otherwise, just like you're doing some predicting, I predict that the rewards will go back to being crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
And please, thinking they named the armor after you is a douchey as thinking they named the Red Kal armor after Rediye from RR. Especially posting about it in multiple threads. Please, don't be that guy.
[QUOTE=mikieblue;1211603]Patience is running out for many knd players. Poor communication and lacking effort from GREE has brought together many top players and guilds...
We all love this game and change needs to happen. We need to grab GREE's attention! I'll be acting as a spokesperson for knd players and contacting gree directly on Monday.
We support:
* Better rewards for top 50 guilds in war
* New map levels
* GM ability to kick leechers without reward.
* Additional things to do for level 100+
* HC only to have declare ability.
* Additional LT quests to be added.
* Hacking prevention and stricter checks
New map levels? You mean increase the level cap I'm assuming?
1. They need to have something in the game at the end content that doesn't revolve from them milking us for more money. It would be nice to have your nice armor (that has been purchased) have the opportunity without Gree double dipping from our wallets again in at least one aspect of the end content of the game with nice rewards.
2. Prince chests should have epics.
3. 30 gem chests should be plus armors.
4. Better War rewards 100+
5. Track gem spent and after so many gems spent you get to pick from some epics plus armors. Not 5000 gems either.
6. A Subscription for a preferred account with a pile of gems given each month. Content only for the preferred members with events that are non gem based.
[QUOTE=White Avenger;1234090]Quote:
Originally Posted by mikieblue
Why dont they just give everyone 100k gems and all the epics+ you can hold.
you idiots need to know when to celebrate a victory, how ungrateful.
The helmet looks like my avatar.Quote:
Originally Posted by busteroaf
It's called Sol. "Red" is common. "Sol" is uncommon.
"Vanguard" is a comic I read once.
My main element is fire.
I started 11+, and the war Epic for the first war responding to 11+ is Sol's armor.
It's pretty obvious that they're paying tribute to me even if you can't see it.
You're just jealous that they didn't make a special Legendary of a guy covered in bird droppings based on you.
Don't be that guy.
CK wont spend more because of the new rewards. Others might.
You mean the one that gets banned for his epic photoshop skills? Wow. Thank GOD you used those skills to make all those banners (color swapping, SO hard). You're right. I wouldn't want to be that guy. And again you mention all these failings. Have you ever even been in the top 10? Oh yeah, that's why you're so into the 11+, cause it's the best you'll ever hope to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
Sol is also sun. You know, a giant ball of fiery gas. Nothing to do with you, except for all the hot air you're full of.
Just stop. You aren't even good at trying to be extra douchey. You just fail all around.
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Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
We are at "war" against Gree so to speak - Not each other :P Now stop and behave.
Kiss and make up one might say.
So painful to read this thread.
Yeah -- I skim and move to the next post. Way off topic. Super pumped for this GW in a way that i haven't been since GWs started. We've been top 25 4 times. We want it this time badly. The whole guild is steppign up. Buying more gems, self policing and actively screening new members. The chat room is twice as active. All signs of excitement for this war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skittle Stomper
We even have some former gemmers coming back to rejoin for the war, since the top 10 isn't wowed by a mono fire (and we all know it's a lot more fun to fight for your wins with the result in doubt versus the mostly organizational challenge of amassing sufficient gememrs in the top 10). Basically a perfect storm for a really fun top 25.
Last 3 day war top 25 line was the highest I think ever at around 1.8M (we finished 20the with around 1.9M). This war I'm predicting 2.7M fOOPS 5.4Mor 25th. A 50% increase.
I'm actually excited for a GW -- such a welcome change.
Ignore List Photoshop Battle: Reversal 1, Sol 0
Props 11+. I'd say this guild war makes it something of a success. I'm certainly happy to see epics in the top 25
Can't tell for sure because I can't find my old screenshots, but I feel like top 10 cutoff was traditionally around 4-5 million.
Now it's gonna be about 9 million and top 25 cutoff is at 4 million.
This war is going to have slightly skewed results, though, with the addition of rank bonuses for defeating HC and above, and because this is the first war of it's kind, people got excited and this stimulated scoring.
I suspect that after the next war or two, top 25 cutoff will correct downward a bit, to 2.5-3.5 million. Perhaps more.
The crappy top 10 mono epic didn't help. WAR disbanded for this one and pumped up ranks of various Top 25 guilds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
You gave it a good run I was pulling for ya... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pale Rider
It appears that those who said that better armors in the top 50 would lead to better profits for Gree were correct... It appears that those that blasted the idea were incorrect by a large margin... LOL..
Again, let me know when actual new content is released or stripping is fixed. Until then, anyone playing this game & supporting Gree is a tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Spock
Stripping is mostly fixed I think at least I noticed lower scores on less challenging opponents, as well as a rank bonus that appears
Which let some scores hit 600,as well as what appeared to be diminishing returns the.more times I farmed an enemy
This would be interesting... I played BTNO so we would not have really noticed. Does anyone gave data on this...Quote:
Originally Posted by PaIadineguru
Skittle you don't play?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skittle Stomper
Yay for trolls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skittle Stomper
and considering the 'skittle stomper' name shows at least a passing familiarity with the game, indicating a tendency to play KnD, one can only assume skittle stomper just called themselves a tool
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Originally Posted by PaIadineguru
Um, lol?
Stripping is when a friendly GM wears a basic on one knight so the opposing guild can score huge numbers in as little time as possible. How many of you have been around since cloud war? This is war 10? The game ain't changing.
Stripping still works good.
Seems to me that you get less points from a GM that wears basic armor and uses one knight than one that uses, say, three level 30 ★★ or ★★★ armors. So all you have to do is semi-strip and it's still a lot better to get a match with an allied guild and get a guaranteed Frenzy and strip, than it is to fight a true adversarial guild.
Zyn, I'm Eunuchorn, & I quit playing & retired RR just before mono air war, as Gree obviously has no intention of adding any actual improvements to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyntree
I don't blame you for quitting...the amount of money you dropped into the GW to get plus armors that mean nothing since you all strip anyway... Blew my mind... Quitting was the only way to keep your sanity I would guess..Quote:
Originally Posted by Skittle Stomper
has anyone made an updated list for everything people are wanting? i know they have barely touched the list of to fix. like adding any content for people who has beaten epic level and make ebplus weekly. i just wanna see. im interested in playing around in photoshop and possibly making some custom map, armor or something. for fun and to see how much content i an create before gree does =]
http://gree-corp.com/press/view/81/g...30-day-revenue
i hope 11+ hasnt died completely? if this one game is making money like this we deserve some type of SERIOUS updates.
Id like if some of this stuff could be done. would really be better for the game overall.
11+ hasn't died. Our appetite is not completely sated, we're just snacking on revamped rewards...which was the original goal, before the community decided to ask for more.
I would certainly like an update about what else could be done.
Expanding story mode with new zones is probably the most desired update that we'd like to see. There is a lot more that could be done.
And how would this generate more revenue for Gree? Just playing Devil's Advocate. I doubt they'd make a change unless they could make some money off of itQuote:
Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
Someone else who understands my train of thought...Quote:
Originally Posted by ZerotheHero
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Originally Posted by busteroaf
I would have given you more credit buster but since you don't seem to get it let me lay it on you.
Customer retention. It's not free players doing the asking , its not paying players. It's most players.
It makes them money because it would retain spenders due to
1. The obvious, something new, something that maybe is usable only with epics fused or bought and tiered accordingly.
2. It allows a way to bridge 3* with current eb , its barely doable for newbs as is and with the current stat creep will get worse
3. Customer satisfaction, the most successful companies are the ones that satisfy the wants of the customer. Especially
In competitive fields , merely showing that they are listening and attempting to satisfy customer needs encourages spending among those who normally wouldn't.
You don't get it. Gree isn't going to do it unless it makes them money. The 11+ promised they'd pay for a better reward. Gree gave it to them, 11+ paid. 11+ wins, and Gree's wallets win. Then Gree gave them a **** reward just because they can... will 11+ continue to pay? Who cares? Gree already got their money right?Quote:
Originally Posted by PaIadineguru
Gree won't do anything pro bono. Did I miss something?
Don't act like doing something that benefits all players actually benefits players, unless it is something that the players will pay for. I thought you were smarter than that, Paladippyguru.
Also, what happened to your other account? Banned much?
Am I seriously the longest reigning account on these forums without a ban? Is it because I play devils advocate and prove you wrong, or just because I make more sense than everyone else?
There is a thread by Elita, an administrator of this forum and "developer," calledQuote:
Originally Posted by ZerotheHero
"**OFFICIAL** Feedback and Suggestions Thread!"
In this thread, there is a poll (which predates 11+), asking
"What kind of feature would you most like to see added?"
The clear winner of this poll is "Expansion for those over level 100" with the only real contender being "In game trading," and everyone who did not vote for that knows what a dumb idea it is.
So maybe you can tell me, why would Elita put up this poll and make Expansion an option if there wasn't some willingness to deliver?
To get you to feel like they actually cared?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
Again, poll =/= set in stone additions. It was a "what would you like to see." If they feel that what you want to see isn't doable, no skin off their d!cks... they don't have to do squat about it.
Again, if "free gems for everyone" had won the poll, would you expect them to give out free gems? Common sense man. It was a feeler. Nothing was ever guaranteed.
Of course, if your prior posts are true, you've blocked me, so you won't see the sensible post that I've posted in response to your idiotic post. That is what you get when you block forum members. You miss out on common sense. Your loss, not mine.
No need to get snippy, it was an honest question. Paladine's response wasn't satisfactory to me either. I feel as though Gree would only make a change if they saw the cash right in front of them. His reasoning may or may not have been sound, but it's too...round about. At least with better rewards for the top 25, they'd see the cash immediately. Changes like that would be far more appealing to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
As for the poll, I think either you're missing something or I am. Pretty sure it's you. The poll I'm looking at did indeed have more content for level 100+ players as the most top voted choice, but wasn't my original response concerning the story mode expansion? What are you trying to prove with the "additional content for lvl 100+" option? There was a separate option for story mode expansion. That lost miserably by they way. Anyways, have you seen ANY of those poll options worked on by Gree? Hmm? No? No. Except for ones that don't count (i.e. more epics, possibly fix bugs, although I'd argue against that). And I'll echo Busteroaf on that to finish up my point. There was no guarantee when she started the poll that they would act on any of them. As you quoted, the poll was to see what people most wanted to see. I saw no guarantee that they would act on any of them, regardless of total votes. I still think it was a way to get people to think they were working on something (maybe they are, but it's been awhile, no?) and keep people satisfied that way.