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uncommon to 11 takes 80 minutes, is 500 for the base armor and 2400 for 8 x 300 for the basics, for a total of 2900 to make one to 11
uncommons require 600+1600 (2200 total) in enhancing costs just to get it to 11 where as snakeskin requires no enhancing costs for it to have 24ep
so 4100 gold and 80 minutes time for 20 EP for matching element
--or--
3000 gold and 120 minutes time for 24 EP for matching element
Using Lii's data for level 70 armors*, and based purely on minimum GOLD usage:
You should switch to snakeskin from basics/monos at level 16 if snakeskin matches your armor's elements, or 24 if it doesn't.
If snakeskin matches your required elements, switch to Fusing 50ep armors at level 58. You'll need 26 fusion stones if that's all you use from here to level 70.
If Snakeskin does NOT match, the switch comes at level 47. Now it'll take 48 fusion stones.
Now that's a lot of fusion stones, and a lot of snakeskins too, so my plan is to use these levels as the lowest at which I'll do the switch. i.e. it's a waste of both time and gold to use snakeskin below level 16 for matching, or 24 for non-matching. After that if you have the gold, carry on using Monos, but if you're trying to preserve gold, snakeskin is cheaper but is going to take longer to craft. That's fine if you're not in a hurry.
At 47 if you're fusion stone rich, switch to fusing. You're probably not, but don't waste fusion stones below this level. if snakeskin matches your required elements, wait until level 58 before wasting any fusion stones. For osat of us fusion stones are still a luxury item, so we'll carry on using snakeskin and wasting gold because it's more easily obtained.
Any reward/chest/otherly acquired armors you wish to roll into enhancing, these levels should be a guide as to when to use them.
* https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FcVZFRGc#gid=4
Lii, I have one query - you show values for enhancing at both level 1 and 70. If the first is the cost from 1 > 2 (which I know is correct), then shouldn't there just be a 69 > 70, because at 70 you can't enhance any more?
I would say Snakeskin. It takes time to farm the skins, but it costs 3,000 gold for 24EP vs. 5,100 gold for 20EP:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZERO_07
1 Uncommon: 500g 30 min
8 Basics: 2,400g 40 min
1st Enhancement: 600g
2nd Enhancement: 1600g
Total: 5,100g
38 Lost EP to enhancement
x4 = 20,400g, 4hr 40 min, 80EP
1 Snakeskin: 3,000g 2hr craft + Farming time.
No lost EP
x4 = 12,000g, 8hr, 96EP
Jello
jello, did you ever figure out the ep required to level nemesis rarity armour? (I saw it change from uncommon to NEMISIS a while back - probably when the transition happened)
I might get a nemi for the last dragon, I am guessing the stats will be like jians'
If its not in a spreadsheet by then I will do my best to track the numbers
I'm pretty sure it follows the same EP patterns as a level 50 armor.Quote:
Originally Posted by overcire
--or--Quote:
Originally Posted by Roark
3000 gold and 120 minutes time for 20 EP for non-matching element
More things influincing the decission process:
The amount of stockpiled (materials for) commons (level 11 takes 5 matching and 3 non-matching commons (6 takes 4 non-matching BTW)) and farm cycles you're willing to do. Snakeskin takes at least 4 farm cycles to get one (if she doesn't drop any Stone Slabs), while uncommons take 2 farm cycles (IIRC none of those bosses have alternative drop materials...), so at least twice less farming, but assuming about 2 1/2 shards for common armors dropped per farm cycle (2 crits on minions, 1/2 a random drop), your shard supply goes down by 3 per level 11 uncommon...
Myself, I've been using Snakeskin for the later levels of 3 of my Big Four (matching elements) and level 11 Dragonflame for the Living Flame+ .
Snakeskin + give more EP than snakeskin regular ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Jello
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If everyone (mainly me and other lower level people out there) has a problem with not having enough money for the fusion costs and upgrade costs how about you literally make 14 training fields and only have 1 armor smith? You'll be making atleast 16.3k per hour for a maximum of 13 hours (if you leave it for a whole day or something you'll come back with 196k gold just sitting there) This would increase if you upgraded them to lvl 2 or 3 (with enough crystals) at lvl 2 it would make 19.2k every hour (gold earned per hour is based on a percentage of the max gold available since it still follows the same amount of time as a level 2 building, as it did level 1, to get to max gold stat). 19.2k every hour would be perfect for those that don't have enough money to keep up with the combining cost of getting those 50 EP fusion armors. You only need 1 armor craft because typically speaking using basics is "quicker" to getting more EP. Not very efficient in terms of the enhancement costs later on. But that's why you stockpile gold with your 19.2k gold every hour and then go at it with whatever method you perfer. Probably using basic armor for the first 20-30 armor levels. Then switching to fused 50 EP armors since the enhancing option will be costing a lot of money now.
To find when its more efficient use this:
*Assume your using 4 armors at a time when enhancing
*Basic is an estimate since 33.33 armors cant be done, just for theory crafting.
*X = enhancing cost (a changing variable)
200 EP cost: (cost of armorsmith and fusion) (25600*4) + 4(enhancing cost)x--> 102400+4x
Takes 33.33 basics to get the same 200 EP : (Cost of armorsmith) (33.33*300) + 8.333x--> 10000 +8.333x
Set equal to each other. 10000 + 8.333x = 102400 + 4x
*Algebra--> 4.333x=92400 -->x= 92400/4.333
X= 21323 gold
When the cost of upgrading ONE armor is MORE THAN 21323 gold (aka the full 4 armor enhance = 85292 gold) start using the 50 EP armors because it is more cost efficient. Well not including those accursed fusion stars =/.... Enjoy =)
@reeper1260: if you are going to set the armor smith to start a new common armor every 5 minutes anyway, Fountains or Conservatory would be a better option than Training Fields. ;-P
Think of it as how many EP you need to get to that level from the level before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Musketeer
Currently level 1 has a zero. Of course you could move all numbers up one row and change the thinking to "how many EP you need to max that certain level" (i.e. what you mention above). I don't really have any preferences to which way is used, I simply picked the one someone else had already started :)
i'm not sure if this helps somehow or if it's been said, if so, ive missed it but i'm having a lot more trouble leveling up my tempered armor (cap at 70) than i had with the nemesis armour (cap at 30) so maybe different armours have different EP leveling or different level caps have different EP in the first place
i'm not sure what i'm saying is right but it is what i noticed happening to me
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