Serious question for moderators, Gree, regarding the terms of service

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03-13-2015, 11:26 AM
Weasel

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Originally Posted by Dipstik

I hope to see many more accounts deleted as the policy is enforced uniformly.

This, I agree with.

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Originally Posted by montecore

Yes, it was probably those damned molly maguires who reported the accounts. Could never have been TAW!

Whomever is responsible for sending a player report is irrelevant. Sold accounts violate the TOS regardless of the spend level of the person or persons who report them.

You're just mad because maybe TAW (or someone, anyway) reported some accounts that you would have preferred to keep amongst your group. That's TS for you. Get over it. People buying and selling accounts should be aware of the risks. Buyer beware and all that. Ignorance is not the same as innocence.
03-13-2015, 11:50 AM
montecore

And that is why, I am stating very publicly, that SAS will as always take a higher road than TAW did.

IF you are in TAW, or thinking of joining TAW, with a transferred account, leave before battle.
IF you do not, there is a very high likelihood that you account will be reported. There is a higher likelihood that all of the sordid details will be published to the community, and it will be left up to them to report the account or not.
IF TAW tries to do something cute and claim a technicality, such as several players all going to start a new syndicate or join an existing one, the same thing applies.

This gives anyone who bought an account a fair chance to protect it, something TAW never did, and also makes it clear that TAW will only benefit from having transferred accounts on their syndicate if the owners wish to risk them being banned. It also means SAS won't necessarily have to report anyone, which was a revolting prospect. If the game has devolved to a point where it's a matter of which team can screw over more people who bought accounts, I really don't know why anyone would want to play.
03-13-2015, 12:00 PM
Weasel

Blah blah blah.

Reporting accounts that violate the TOS is within the rules of the game. If that's become an effective strategy in defeating your rivals, so be it. The ones doing the buying and selling of accounts have only themselves to blame for that. What you're saying is both syndicates knowingly violate(d) the TOS, but only because that is being used against you as an effective strategy do you have an issue with it.

Fight fire with fire, in this case. Forum tears certainly won't do much, if anything.
03-13-2015, 12:07 PM
montecore

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Originally Posted by Weasel

Blah blah blah.

Reporting accounts that violate the TOS is within the rules of the game. If that's become an effective strategy in defeating your rivals, so be it. The ones doing the buying and selling of accounts have only themselves to blame for that. What you're saying is both syndicates knowingly violate(d) the TOS, but only because that is being used against you as an effective strategy do you have an issue with it.

Fight fire with fire, in this case. Forum tears certainly won't do much, if anything.

Glad we agree on something. Yes, they violate the TOS. Yes, there are transferred accounts on every syndicate in the top 400. SAS has higher standards and would prefer not to act like rats, but as you have said, that may be the only recourse. A shame TAW had to bring it to this.
03-13-2015, 12:20 PM
Weasel

Don't act like SAS has some moral high ground to stand on. Violating the TOS is violating the TOS. In other words, cheating is cheating.

And you're as guilty as those you are naming and shaming.
03-13-2015, 12:23 PM
montecore

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Originally Posted by Weasel

Don't act like SAS has some moral high ground to stand on. Violating the TOS is violating the TOS. In other words, cheating is cheating.

And you're as guilty as those you are naming and shaming.

As guilty as every other syndicate in the game, including yours, which happens to have more than one transferred account. Also worth pointing out that trading uzis for in game cash, bricks for in game cash, bricks for uzis, etc is a TOS violation. Know any players that do this?
03-13-2015, 03:44 PM
Dipstik

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Originally Posted by montecore

As guilty as every other syndicate in the game, including yours, which happens to have more than one transferred account. Also worth pointing out that trading uzis for in game cash, bricks for in game cash, bricks for uzis, etc is a TOS violation. Know any players that do this?

I can't remember where, but I'm pretty sure GREE gave us an official position once that said trading in game stuff for other in game stuff is kosher. You just can't bring real money in or glitch the commodities youre trading.
03-13-2015, 04:13 PM
MK Loves You

Snitches get stitches and left in ditches where I come from. But anything's fair in love and war.
03-13-2015, 04:22 PM
montecore

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dipstik

I can't remember where, but I'm pretty sure GREE gave us an official position once that said trading in game stuff for other in game stuff is kosher. You just can't bring real money in or glitch the commodities youre trading.

So it's OK to buy an account with in game cash, uzis, or bricks?

And in any case, whether a forum moderator said it was OK or not, it's still a violation of the TOS, isn't it?
03-13-2015, 06:11 PM
Weasel

Quote:

Originally Posted by montecore

As guilty as every other syndicate in the game, including yours, which happens to have more than one transferred account. Also worth pointing out that trading uzis for in game cash, bricks for in game cash, bricks for uzis, etc is a TOS violation. Know any players that do this?

More verbal diarrhoea. You have no clue which syndicate I'm in or what goes on there, there's no sense in pretending like you do.

As for the in game trades, you may have noticed an entire subforum dedicated to precisely that. Enough said there.

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Originally Posted by montecore

So it's OK to buy an account with in game cash, uzis, or bricks?

And in any case, whether a forum moderator said it was OK or not, it's still a violation of the TOS, isn't it?

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03-13-2015, 09:49 PM
Dipstik

Thanks weasel... I was going to respond to that, but you summed my thoughts up nicely.
03-13-2015, 11:01 PM
t12pm

Wouldn't it of been easier to just send tickets about the accounts instead of coming here and saying about it, you wouldn't of had to worry about everyone knowing SAS was ratting and all the other bs in this thread. Although the part about Uzis and bricks was pretty entertaining. The real funny part is you are telling said accounts to leave to be protected while at the same time whining about them being used
03-13-2015, 11:40 PM
MK Loves You

Monte you seem like a straight shooting, straightforward, good ole fashion, god-fearing 'Murican......can we be friends?
03-14-2015, 06:20 AM
Max Power

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Originally Posted by Weasel

More verbal diarrhoea. You have no clue which syndicate I'm in or what goes on there, there's no sense in pretending like you do.

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For a guy that hammers on Gree for mispellings, you might consider spellcheck youself....LOL!
03-14-2015, 07:22 AM
TheJess

Ironic that an unserious thread, having only relation to OPs usual paranoid trolling on TAW, is titled, Serious.

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