Update Regarding Accomplices

Many of us have duplicate accomplices.

Will those also be accounted for in their new and exciting update, or will they just disappear?

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Originally Posted by stepxhenlockwood17

Start by going to your email....collect the confirmation numbers on the reciept given for purchase of gold.....probably multiples....then go to google play or apple. Select help option. Search refund request! Give them the number off reciept. Give the details that you paid for services that was to be permanent but have been removed. Give all the details. I did. I promise that something will happen from this if all willl do their part. Google and apple are the ones to talk too. They dont want their names tarnished for harboring scammers.

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OK, maybe stuff happened when I slept, but I never purchased an Accomplice- not with Gold or $ or the sweat of my brow. Yet I had them and they often helped me prevail and I LIKED them (or the concept) because they gave the game a randomness not totally unlike real life. Oo oops, gotta get back to the battle.....

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Originally Posted by Happyperson1

Accomplices and Kingpin -- when announced, we're going to be 50% of the calculation to decide robberies and attacks. 50%. As in half.
Whining ensued.
Then Accomplices not used in war calculations but still everyday robberies and attacks. But that never really worked while a war was on. During the 7 day war, it became quite clear that Accomplices were useless.

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Just wanted to point out that the accomplices were in full use until either the beginning of the 7 day war or no more than hours prior to same war. They have not been used in attack or robbery calculations since.

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Originally Posted by Happyperson1

Future --- no one knows but how can they ever be used in a way to come close to the potency of 50% of a player's attack or defense.

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IMHO, Gree was wrong to introduce accomplices at all, however, were it actually a necessary move, the first attempt was botched. That's OK, there is nothing inherently wrong with making mistakes. The important part is learning from the mistake before, during, and after the mistake has been corrected.

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Originally Posted by Happyperson1

I try not to kill GREE. In the early days, Agent Smith and other bots roamed the CC landscape. Not anymore and GREE deserves praise for this. But Accomplices have been an error of unprecedented magnitude. GREE can do whatever it wants but riddle me this --what if baseball announced that all home runs oVer the right field fence were now worth 2 runs. And in response, MLB execs started paying enormous sums for left-handed players who were quick and strong enough to pull the ball over right field. And then after all the contracts were signed, the Commissioner said -- Nevermind.

I think the execs who shelled out all the money to the left handers would be going crazy. And you know, that's how I feel -- manipulated and crazy.
(give me a break on the baseball analogy; definitely not area of expertise. Lol)

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The only hole I can think of with your baseball analogy is that, if I understand correctly, the league, owners, managers, player's association, etc., would all have to agree to such a rule change. I could be mistaken here, but I also believe when such agreements are made they cannot be changed or revoked mid-season.

Do you think Gree would ever go to such extensive lengths to communicate with all parties affected? (Rhetorical)

Yes learning from a mistake is important. Rectifying large financial losses by others caused by your mistake is even more important.

You want to know the definition of insanity? Introducing accomplices, having accomplices fail miserably, then reintroducing them. Just let them die.

And no, I'm not going to post in the announcement forum. This isn't an announcement, it's a discussion.

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Originally Posted by Happyperson1

Yes learning from a mistake is important. Rectifying large financial losses by others caused by your mistake is even more important.

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In freemium gaming, any time and every time you pay the developer for an in game currency you are paying for the product as is. It's a shame that so many educational systems have failed to develop the intelligence of so many individuals, to the point where corporations take advantage of their lack of intelligence as a business model.

The people paying large sums of money really need to understand they are paying for the product as is, with no guarantees about the future of the product. Is that a good thing? I guess it's up to each individual to determine where they spend their money, but common sense suggests a freemium game is likely one of the last places on earth that anyone should spend money.

Especially if that game is run by Gree.

I second this centiment. I was of this mind from the beginning.

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Originally Posted by John_Locke

You want to know the definition of insanity? Introducing accomplices, having accomplices fail miserably, then reintroducing them. Just let them die.

And no, I'm not going to post in the announcement forum. This isn't an announcement, it's a discussion.

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Once they do reintroduce accomplices with new play mechanics, players will be chompin' at the bit to get 'em.

I bet our duplicate accomplices have already died.

RIP Paul Ringo Wei, Zander Hicks, and many other dupes whose names I can't be assed to remember.

RIP

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Originally Posted by John_Locke

You want to know the definition of insanity? Introducing accomplices, having accomplices fail miserably, then reintroducing them. Just let them die.

And no, I'm not going to post in the announcement forum. This isn't an announcement, it's a discussion.

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Make them a mini game somehow!

I want to watch one of my Paul Ringo Weis drive a car!

Just add their stats without separating them in the math algorithm.

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Originally Posted by John_Locke

You want to know the definition of insanity? Introducing accomplices, having accomplices fail miserably, then reintroducing them. Just let them die.

And no, I'm not going to post in the announcement forum. This isn't an announcement, it's a discussion.

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I'll move it over to the appropriate thread then.

Turn each accomplice into a -10% HP regen mod.

1 accomplice ----> + 1,000,000 att/def stats

I don't like atk/def stats.

Accomplices should be used to heal me faster during wars, bosseES, and street assault, or they could be used to turn unused items into something relevant, like modifiers of various sorts.

I have a newer account with fewer than 1200 items. My oldest account has something close to 60,000 items. Regardless of the device on which I try to open either account, the old one takes nearly a full minute (if not longer) to load while the new one takes about 5-10 seconds.

Doing something to rid the servers of what I can only imagine must be literally billions of unused items might be something Gree should explore. It could easily result in less load time, less lag, possibly lower data charges for those using their cellular data, etc.

If you ever played War of Nations, accomplices should be just like commanders in that game. Accomplices could be merged and fused with the same type and name to grow in atk/def stats. Continue to merge/fuse accomplices will in turn add even more depth to the playing field. Make it happen, Gree...so I can say, "I KNEW IT!"

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Originally Posted by GREE Official Updates

Attention Crime Lords!


Exciting update: Beginning with the Duel for the Deuces Battle for Empire City, Accomplices will no longer factor into battle calculations. Though all Accomplices you've recruited will still remain in your inventory, battle calculations will be calculated using only Mafia Stats. We hope you enjoy the classic Battle for Empire City and build the strongest Mafia to dominate and defeat your enemies! More details to come on how Accomplices will be used to enhance your Mafia.

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...been almost a month.

How about some "more details"?

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Originally Posted by Relic

I'll move it over to the appropriate thread then.

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How about you don't.

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Doing something to rid the servers of what I can only imagine must be literally billions of unused items might be something Gree should explore. It could easily result in less load time, less lag, possibly lower data charges for those using their cellular data, etc.[/QUOTE]

Excellent point. Why not allow us to sell back unused weapons to the equipment store for 1/10 original value at least? Heck, I would be happy just having a delete button so I could remove them from my inventory.

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Originally Posted by Dctrbar

Excellent point. Why not allow us to sell back unused weapons to the equipment store for 1/10 original value at least? Heck, I would be happy just having a delete button so I could remove them from my inventory.

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Trading unused items in has been available in MW for a while. Human nature being what it is, a lot of people have spent billions in game cash buying store items and then trading them in to get valor points (respect in this game) :p

Can one assume that all those that got refunds from external outlets have had their accomplices removed? It would only seem fair to those that read OP and are awaiting further news

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Originally Posted by wawoftam

Can one assume that all those that got refunds from external outlets have had their accomplices removed? It would only seem fair to those that read OP and are awaiting further news

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I had my accomplices removed, and I have never felt better!

So where the hell is the "update" for our usless accomplices. Gree, is short of usless when it comes to " customer service"!. OMG, am I really posting a slight hope of expectation of decency from them? ?...............Hell no!!!

Accomplices aren't anything other than additional attack and defense stats; they offer nothing new. I'm just spitballing here, but what if accomplices acted like actual contacts in the crime world; you know, like one was an arms dealer and unlocked an extra item in the store, or one was a bookie that unlocked a mini game?

One could be a corrupt land owner that gave you an extra expansion automatically, or that unlocked a new money building.

One could be a mob boss that temporarily increased the number of mafia members you could use, like an activated ability; if you had multiple of these accomplices, you could choose how many to activate. That way, if you're going on vacation, you'd have extra defense for a few days.

Speaking of which, one could be a military General who could have the ability to put your hood in emergency lockdown. Payout for your buildings would be halted, but no one could fight or rob you. Perfect for vacations.

The update is there is no update and your account is now obsolete anyway.

These new super-powered mini accounts? Yeah, they have no accomplices attached to them.

All fixed!

So is there any update regarding accomplices?? Its been almost 2 months since they were removed and we were told they would still factor in the game!

GREE, why not just add four of five zeroes to the end of the A and D stat of each accomplice and flip their types to items in a corresponding category?

Eg, Dem-> Exp, Driv->Veh, Gun->Gun, Musc->Mel, Assa->Mel, Tech->Arm.

Maybe if you were feeling particularly altruistic, you could put an interesting mod on the ones which were hard fought for such as those awarded as top 100 and above indi prizes and top 10 and above syn prizes.

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Originally Posted by hexie

GREE, why not just add four of five zeroes to the end of the A and D stat of each accomplice and flip their types to items in a corresponding category?

Eg, Dem-> Exp, Driv->Veh, Gun->Gun, Musc->Mel, Assa->Mel, Tech->Arm.

Maybe if you were feeling particularly altruistic, you could put an interesting mod on the ones which were hard fought for such as those awarded as top 100 and above indi prizes and top 10 and above syn prizes.

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Or simply convert the stats of those won during events into modifiers along the same lines. It should be the larger of the two stats that gets converted not both.

In this case I'd make Assassins > Melee, Muscle > Armour, and Tech > Mafia.

Sorry, but accomplices bought from bundles should be converted to stats as above not turned into mods if they went down this route.

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Originally Posted by hexie

GREE, why not just add four of five zeroes to the end of the A and D stat of each accomplice and flip their types to items in a corresponding category?

Eg, Dem-> Exp, Driv->Veh, Gun->Gun, Musc->Mel, Assa->Mel, Tech->Arm.

Maybe if you were feeling particularly altruistic, you could put an interesting mod on the ones which were hard fought for such as those awarded as top 100 and above indi prizes and top 10 and above syn prizes.

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Souds good to me. Switching accomplices to item + few 0s. Little Higher RAW stats for long time players

No way man. Each accomplice should become an extra mafia member, and that includes the duplicates.

That was a bone-up of epic proportions and in light of the recent mini stat blowup, it would be a very cool thing to do.

Wouldn't level the playing field by any stretch, but it would be a very nice gesture.

Gree could use a nice gesture right about now.

Each Accomplice = 1 extra mafia member.

Fair dinkum mate.

You could even call them henchmen. That would be epic.

Put a cap limit on it if some players have hundreds of them.

A reasonable cap limit, like 50, not something stupid like three.

You're welcome.

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Think its time to get an official update on the issue. Several in my syndicate quit when it was introduced. Several quit when some didn't have any targets, and several quit when it was removed. Several got refunds from Apple, but for us who has gold bought over 3 months its not possible to get a refund, so personal I would love to get some of that back.

Two months, still waiting....

I think they forgot... Someone should put One Shot on it!
Z(no sir, I would not know what sarcasm is- please don't shut this down... No, not me either!!)

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Originally Posted by John_Locke

Accomplices aren't anything other than additional attack and defense stats; they offer nothing new. I'm just spitballing here, but what if accomplices acted like actual contacts in the crime world; you know, like one was an arms dealer and unlocked an extra item in the store, or one was a bookie that unlocked a mini game?

One could be a corrupt land owner that gave you an extra expansion automatically, or that unlocked a new money building.

One could be a mob boss that temporarily increased the number of mafia members you could use, like an activated ability; if you had multiple of these accomplices, you could choose how many to activate. That way, if you're going on vacation, you'd have extra defense for a few days.

Speaking of which, one could be a military General who could have the ability to put your hood in emergency lockdown. Payout for your buildings would be halted, but no one could fight or rob you. Perfect for vacations.

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I'd like this commented on. Are the developers discussing it?