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Think that what she meant. Enough with that, lock this thread now... Please
you bet! i have more fans than you can count. the whole indian camp is full of my fans lol. on a serious note, i was in the fight club as a free player. i've spent zero cents for the time i was in fight club. any guesses why i was a part of the club? not that i expect a sensible reply from you but some food for your thoughts ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Angel6ix6ix6
you can't expect anything good from him ... his name says it all ... Angel 666 .. quite a history with that name mr. fallen angel :)Quote:
Originally Posted by reras
Before its locked, some people put forward interesting points of view and I appreciated reading the interesting posts, thank you for posting.
The rubbish posts, just showed that some people are too lazy to think for themselves
There is no challenge in this game. It really is just a pretty simcity with some events. I really wish Gree devoted some energy into making it actually have some skill to play but oh well I don't see them doing that anytime soon especially when people are so eager to shell out the cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by TZora
I play with spending the bare minimum because of the very reason I gave above. To think of the dollar amount I know some folks have spent is really funny regardless of how much money they have in real life.
I guess I think of the games in this life that take real skill and dedication. When those people achieve goals and rewards I can at least be envious at their skills but in CC I just know some dude forked out a grand for it. Just funny is all.
If no one paid, no one would play
As for the spending or buying gold, I think the Indians would be the best ones to ask
They spend when they think they can catch the team in front
They spend to stay in front of the team below them
So they are both pulled along and pushed from below
Lol@ a testimonial .Quote:
Originally Posted by TZora
Aibileen Clark: You is kind. You is smart. You is important.
The Help is an awesome movie, loved watching it :)
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Originally Posted by duckid
I put my CC stats on my resume. I get tons of job offers daily.
I'll agree with that assesment.Quote:
Originally Posted by tam...
Maybe you missed the part where I'm on your side. No need for sarcasm. There's nothing tough about tapping a screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by tam...
The tough way is to play for free? Don't think so. As far as i know, giving up on the money you can use to invite your wife on dinner, is MORE tough.
I wasn't being sarcastic. Tough as in increasing ones stats as they level up. It's slow and they are on the frequently hit listQuote:
Originally Posted by atc
I call your bluff. Why do you play the game? You even created a forum account and post!!! You could play marbles by yourself!
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Originally Posted by duckid
If there is no strategy to the game, why has FC won every war? Other syndicates spend and some may have out spent FC a war or 2 ago! Yet they were not #1. My theory: it is probably very difficult for you to imagine because you simply do not get it. It's quite simply the same argument why some spend and others don't. There is a saying: if you are not successful but wish to be, make friends with a successful person. Making friends with other losers will not make you a success. Just saying....
I'm begging for this this thread to be locked. Reading all 18 pages isn't a good use of my time. I could be spending my time in more fulfilling ways-- suntanning with no UV protection, buying lots of gold and feeling better as a person, or helping the local charity down the block.
These topics always get everyone frustrated because it usually devolves into simpleton arguments like " You're rich but you feel bad about yourself. That's why you send so much on CC". Ridiculous. Or "Playing CC without buying gold is the tough way to play. I'm righteous". Also ridiculous. For the most part, we all fall into a spectrum somewhere we spend some money to purchase a little bit of gold. If there is skill involved in CC, buying gold doesn't negate it. Is being the top player in CC as difficult intellectually as being the world champion in chess? No. But give two players $25,000 to spend on CC and I guarantee you one will be better than the other ...and not because of chance.
To duckid I say...Please stop playing and telling us here how you hate CC. Just stop playing and go self-actualize somewhere else.
To Tzora I say-- You have incredible patience answering post after post. And by the way, you are loved. By many people in CC and in RL.
And to Angel 666 -- Your constant juvenile sarcasm here isn't appreciated here. Why so negative about everyone? I feel sorry for you.
That wraps it up folks...lets get on with our lives and do whatever we like doing. For many of us who post in this forum, that may mean playing CC. We are not addicted, we have other things to do in the world but I would bet that the vast majority of us enjoy playing CC. Because its a decent game.
Can't say I agree with everything you've posted on this thread but this observation below is spot on. Nicely stated.
"this game is totally biased to the rich who can spend real money. this game endorses spending money and that's what some people do. if you are feeling disgusted because they can spend and you can't, take a break .. buy a computer, buy a fps game and there you have the challenge you are talking about"
Well said Tam, that's the truth, ain't it?
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Originally Posted by tam...
it takes a loving heart to give love, you do have a loving heart too and that's what makes you a wonderful person :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Happyperson1
actually, i wanted to quote tam's words. she did say a lot in just a few words! all of the free players who "enjoy" playing this game should be thankful to those who pay for this game. those who shell out money are the one keeping this game alive. same goes with modernwar, other gree titles and other non-gree games wherever real money is involved. whether others do their part or not, i'll do mine. thank you fight club, ckm, indians, rogues gallery and everyone else who help keeping the game servers running for all of us :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tam...
As someone who does buy gold occasionally, I don't want thanks from anyone. Each player plays in the manner they want to. If no one bought gold, I agree that GREE would simply shut game down. But I buy gold for my own purposes not to help anyone else.
I don't agree with the characterization of free play as "tougher" than if you buy gold. It's just a different style of game play with different expectations for outcomes. But reasonable people can disagree on these points. What I find unfortunate in this discussion is the constant introduction of class warfare and wrong-minded pop psychology -- the haves vs. the have-nots; the discussions of jealousy and the emptiness of the lives of frequent or high-spending players.
This s just a video game. We don't know each other well enough to say that by winning an event you don't see the sun. Or if you play 5 hours a day you're filling a void. That kind of snap characterization of other players' lives is grotesque. Too much Dr. Phil. We are all players of a game and that's our common interest. To go beyond that and say that free players are jealous of gold players or that gold players are rich snobs is silly and purposely argumentative. Let's discuss the game and not speculate about our RL lives. To the extent there is a community at all of CC players it's about the game and nothing else. And as a community, showing a little kindness to each other in this forum and on the walls in CC would be a refreshing change.
Well played, sir. *munches popcorn*Quote:
Originally Posted by Happyperson1
*takes popcorn from dipstik and eats it*Quote:
Originally Posted by Dipstik
Dippy -- if I can entertain you for a few minutes, I feel like I've accomplished something today. 😊
I think the title of this thread should have been "when will Fightclub not come in first place?" That would be an interesting discussion.
of course, how could you stay away from a thread that has gone 19 pages long .. those popcorns don't have enough salt, do they? this thread has enough :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dipstik
that could happen only in #2's dreams :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Gunflame
I haven't read it either, but I can guess.
Buncha people talking about how it would be better if fight club gave their money to lazy poor people instead of buying gold. Buncha guilty fight goldbugs saying "How do you know we don't? Mind your own business!" Buncha non-guilty goldbugs saying "How I spend my money is my own business" Buncha noobs complaining about how the game is biased towards goldbugs.
Am I close, Tzora?
First off I want to make one thing very clear... I do not hate CC. You have completely read my posts incorrectly. I don't know why you did but you did. What I hate about this game is that it is so catered to people who are willing to spend real money to advance. There is no way around it. The vast majority of the games I have played in the past (mainly MMO PC games) have never been like this. If you wanted the rewards you simply had to put in the "work". To move past content you had to at least have some skill and tactics... you couldn't simply hand over $1000 to the GMs and say "make that boss dead and give me the loot!!!". But as people have stated this is a completely different game... and yes it is but it still doesn't change the fact that to advance in this game all you have to do is spend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happyperson1
What people do in this game is up to them but you won't see me patting them on the back and being envious of their accounts because I know all they did was spend to get to where they are now. I've also spent money on this game (around $100 total) and for that I've progressed in some areas where I wanted to see the rewards. For those that wish to spend on this game good for them... but its just an easy way to move past any obstacle to get what you want. Not that much fun when that's all you do in this game to "succeed".
So that brings me to FC and the rest. FC is number #1 in this game because their crew is the most willing to spend money in this game. They have no special strategies and no advanced tactics that will separate themselves vs. the Indians or Rogues. They simply spend more to always be #1. At some point in time this has to get old for them but then again as they state it's "pocket change" for them to continue to throw money at this game so ho-hum.
I misspoke earlier in this threat about some guy winning the lottery and devoting all his money to this game... so let me restate this. Let's pretend someone in Rogues Gallery won the lottery and he gave $50,000 to every member in Rogues Gallery to dedicate solely to CC for one month. Please tell me what FC would do to ensure their own victory... and please don't say FC would have to spend $50,000+ as that's kinda proving my point.
I'm curious about your answer.
yup .. that's the salt i'm talking about *blink blink blink*Quote:
Originally Posted by Dipstik
"Let's pretend someone in Rogues Gallery won the lottery and he gave $50,000 to every member in Rogues Gallery to dedicate solely to CC for one month. Please tell me what FC would do to ensure their own victory... and please don't say FC would have to spend $50,000+ as that's kinda proving my point." Blue
Blue, this has already happened in a roundabout way when Gree accidentally made an error and handed out 65,000 + free gold to a lot of players
Fight club still won the battle even though we were up against teams who had free gold to spend
You can all put this in your signatures and quote me on it. Fight club will lose to drama. Fight Club is, by definition, a collection of the biggest spenders in Crime City. Aside from a few stragglers who have their own issues (mostly indians who stick with their group out of nostalgia... isn't that cute?), if you spend enough money, you get to be part of Fight Club. When your group is defined by being the biggest spenders, it's logically impossible to believe they will ever be outspent.
But what WILL happen is eventually there will be a split within Fight Club. I don't know if a new group will be formed or, more likely, a large portion of formerly Fight Club players will decide to join another existing syndicate and make THAT group the default place for all the biggest spenders to go.
tl;dr: It's not about beating fight club because whoever "beats" them will BE the new "Fight Club." Don't even try.
edit: Since Drama is the strongest force in Crime City, does that make me HTC's secret weapon? I think so.
Evolution, it has a lot to answer for
Change is inevitable
The way I remember that is Gree snatched back any gold unspent within hours. Those players who received and spent it did so on boosting stats. The glitch gold certainly wasn't around long enough to be used for war fighting purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by tam...
Hmm when did that happen? I never heard of that or received free gold. Can I assume FC also received free gold from this glitch?Quote:
Originally Posted by tam...
Maybe I should rephrase this to be very specific. If one day Rogue Gallery sat down with all their members and said "enough is enough" we are sick and tired of losing to FC (and Indian I guess) and so hey committed to spending a ridiculous amount of money on the war. Way more than FC ever spends or was willing to spend. Are you saying that Rogue Gallery would still come in 2nd or 3rd?
Maybe I'm just not understanding what you are doing vs. the rest of the top 10 teams (besides the willingness to spend more than the next team) because quite frankly the method of battle, length of battles, tools to use in battles and IP from wins is very simplistic. Gold spent is the only major variable in the final amount of IP in a war.
I know your team is better equipped and I know you have slightly better bonuses but all teams play different teams. Also the #1 prize tends to not be crucial in war events for example getting 1 more energy every minute isn't going to do anything... unless you tell me that translates to war energy as well. If every team only went up against you then I can easily see why they would lose to you every time simply because your core group is better equipped but that's not the case in these wars.
I'm looking for answers because the only thing I can come up with is FC is more willing to spend gold versus the rest of the teams out there. The major variable of spending gold is the simple answer.
Not every gold spender is in FC. Just saying...
Of course, but it's fair to guess that pretty much all of the subset who can spend "more than the average person earns in a year on this game, but it's pocket money to me" are?Quote:
Originally Posted by dr007
The idea of 'giving money to poor people' is so preposterously wrong that I'd prefer everyone in FC to continue what controlling this game and don't bother to 'give money to poor people'. Ever. As far as what the stereotypical 'poor person' is going to do with that cash is concerned you're better off dumping it into a game. Much better for the econmy as a whole.
Also an untrue statement: we can assume that all top 10 syndicates have gold spenders. The top 3-5 syndicates are more than likely all or mostly gold spenders.
It is hilarious to read some of these posts. Fight Club was a mix of independent players at the onset. With the help of my good friend Paulio, we added some CK members. It was never let's look at who the biggest spenders in the game are. It was a way to align players with the same mindset: win syndicate wars. Some of these players have retired from the game or have wanted to take it easy somewhat so new (just as strong) players hav stepped in. We have never to this day only required players to spend to be in FC. There has to be trust. And you have to be a dedicated player.
I'm sure the haters will find plenty to troll or talk about. But, this, ladies & gentlemen, is the truth. I have been involved since the onset and I am still there today in a senior role. Don't believe the hype! And for those who truly feel there is no strategy other than money, think again and think hard or you will never be #1 even if you decide to spend massive amounts of money. Enough said....
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Originally Posted by sister morphine