The Killshot Challenge

At least he was nice enough to splurge on a cute new outfit. Good for him!

This does bring up a good point though - are they going to take the new outfit away as well?

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Originally Posted by Ramshutu

I think I'd better point out a major misconception.

No one is annoyed, or on their high horse, high donkey or high tricycle that you have hackers. We've had hackers. Well probably have more, and without checking everyone's stats daily, its pretty difficult to check.

We're on our high horse because you guys angrily demanded proof because you believed we were making everything up. We gave you proof. You then kicked the hacker then you act like nothing happened, then go on your own mini crusade about how you take it all really seriously, and don't get annoyed about it.

These are two different things, but I can see where you are getting confused.

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The thing is, the ship had sailed long ago and we were content with letting it sail and wouldn't have revived the issue until out of nowhere the rocks starting flying again by the gadfly himself.
(http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...l=1#post682063)

You mentioned you have had hackers? After you kicked them, what was your next step? Did you cover your heads, tear your clothing, and apply ash to your face? What would you do other than move on?

We have no issue with somebody specifically pointing out and helping us rid ourselves of hackers, we openly welcome it. This has been done discretely with us in the past and we are better because of it. But lobbing grenades against a group with the specific point being to discredit the group as a whole is what is bothersome to us, just as it would be to you.

Dudes enough already! This thread needs to be locked out and any attempt to open up another one. Moving from helping each other pre-syn to figuring out who's more wrong...not right and sad. I believe even Gree is getting rather tired of one of the syns involved in this back and forth.

Try and have a good weekend rather than trying to figure out...well who cares really for most of the readers of the forum. Take it out on each other, as you will, in the next battle!

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Originally Posted by cooch

Dudes enough already! This thread needs to be locked out and any attempt to open up another one. Moving from helping each other pre-syn to figuring out who's more wrong...not right and sad. I believe even Gree is getting rather tired of one of the syns involved in this back and forth.

Try and have a good weekend rather than trying to figure out...well who cares really for most of the readers of the forum. Take it out on each other, as you will, in the next battle!

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This IS how I have a good weekend! How dare you!

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Originally Posted by Ramshutu

I think I'd better point out a major misconception.

No one is annoyed, or on their high horse, high donkey or high tricycle that you have hackers. We've had hackers. Well probably have more, and without checking everyone's stats daily, its pretty difficult to check.

We're on our high horse because you guys angrily demanded proof because you believed we were making everything up. We gave you proof. You then kicked the hacker then you act like nothing happened, then go on your own mini crusade about how you take it all really seriously, and don't get annoyed about it.

These are two different things, but I can see where you are getting confused.

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Is saying that we "have hackers" an honest typo, or is this just another example of the negative misinformation your group has continually put out there?

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Originally Posted by montecore

At least he was nice enough to splurge on a cute new outfit. Good for him!

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To clarify, I took the first image after I saw that his stats were already inflated. When I checked his inventory I estimated that he had already bought more than 40 sets of crates. I don't know how many LE items he had purchased or what other benefits he took advantage of. I only know that his stats were well below 200k when I hit him only a couple days before.

And yes, that is a snazzy outfit and hairdo.

Monte - you know posting pics is against forum policy, right? This thread is already a powderkeg that I can't believe CJ has let go on - no reason to get banned for knowingly breaking guidelines.

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Originally Posted by Killshot-CC

Actually it was me who demanded a name. And it wasn't because I didn't believe it was possible, but because the entire syndicate was slandered without any specifics whatsoever. I repeatedly challenged mxz to prove me wrong and to this day, he has never once posted a single message in public or in private that identified anyone. He had never proved me wrong. It's a fair characterization to call that lobbing grenades.

When someone else actually did step forward and name someone, I immediately acted upon it, investigated it, kept him in the loop the entire time, and got the person out of the syndicate even though nothing was ever proven. If you call that "acting like nothing happened" or you don't think that's "tak[ing] it all really seriously" then I don't know what to tell you. Had mxz left it alone, I would have, too. But he had to try to throw me under the bus once again the other day and now it's revealed that you guys have several players who are known to have benefited from a glitch and have done nothing. Worse, you sit here and act like you don't know about it.

Here's part of the message that was sent to me almost two hours ago, more than an hour before you claimed not to know anything about it. So either you guys don't communicate with one another, or even the weak response of just notifying GREE is a lie and you are harboring glitchers without doing anything at all about it.

http://www.deezle.com/CrimeCity/HTC-re-glitchers.jpg

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1) Have respect enough not to post players names. Same goes for everyone else. I had the decency to leave the initial player's name out of it, I'd expect the same out of everyone else.

2) Way to only post a portion of the PMs, and not the part where I explained that I had incorrectly worded that initial one. Classy. I'm done with the thread.

I'll leave everyone with one thing. If a player currently has 500 seige launchers, 500 deadly shurikens, 500 impenetrable suits, and 500 M1A1 tanks is he legit? Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Originally Posted by mxz

Monte - you know posting pics is against forum policy, right? This thread is already a powderkeg that I can't believe CJ has let go on - no reason to get banned for knowingly breaking guidelines.

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I was not aware of that, so I'll go ahead and remove them. Thanks.

I'm tired of all the accusers. Mxz, ram, Afed. The list goes on.
Do I look like GREE to you? Stop bothering me about this over and over lol
Send a ticket to GREE and deal with it. Sure talk to me about it once, then you recieve my response. Afterwards drop it. I don't have to make a decision within a certain Afed appointed time frame. I don't answer to you, so back off.

We have cleared any suspected hackers, they are gone. Doesn't mean they are hackers, it means they were suspected.
There are some we may have booted that are legit. Hacker or not there is a real person on the other end... With real problems. As the leader of a top 3 syn you do what you can, but then you let GREE handle it. Funny how people lost sight of that. Imagine how you'd feel If you were accused but haven't done anything wrong.

But mxz/ afed don't worry, you won't ever get accused of hacking :) your stats are too low for that.

Edit: btw stp wasn't kicked out, he left on his own terms.
He thought all the accusations were hurting the group so he made his own decision

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Originally Posted by mxz

Monte - you know posting pics is against forum policy, right? This thread is already a powderkeg that I can't believe CJ has let go on - no reason to get banned for knowingly breaking guidelines.

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How come its okay for someone in htc to take advantage of a glitch earning him over 160k in stats? Seems like you're a pretty big advocate against any kind of glitching/hacking. I figured you would've already have 5 or 6 post accusing your own group of cheating.

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Originally Posted by USA ShouldNukeNorthKorea

But you said it yourself once - pics or it didn't happen.

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Guidelines over attempting to look "right".

This turned into a unit measuring contest that has gone grossly off topic. This thread served its purpose. SAS no longer has the player in question. Killshot got his answers and came to the same conclusion as the rest of us.

At this point, we need to let it die.

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Originally Posted by mxz

Guidelines over attempting to look "right".

This turned into a unit measuring contest that has gone grossly off topic. This thread served its purpose. SAS no longer has the player in question. Killshot got his answers and came to the same conclusion as the rest of us.

At this point, we need to let it die.

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So now that htc has guys accused of glitching the thread needs too die. Too funny

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Originally Posted by mxz

Guidelines over attempting to look "right".

This turned into a unit measuring contest that has gone grossly off topic. This thread served its purpose. SAS no longer has the player in question. Killshot got his answers and came to the same conclusion as the rest of us.

At this point, we need to let it die.

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We can let it die, but you need to stop lying (or perhaps misrepresenting out of ignorance) about the idea that we "came to the same conclusion as the rest of [you]"

I will continue to reiterate that I believe the player in question is not a hacker. To play it safe, he is out of the syndicate and the matter is in Gree's hands. So please stop trying to present things as if we were wrong, you were right, we shouted you down, you stood up for what was right and wouldn't back down, and we finally cowered and agreed that you were right all along. That isn't factual.

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Originally Posted by AFed

1) Have respect enough not to post players names. Same goes for everyone else. I had the decency to leave the initial player's name out of it, I'd expect the same out of everyone else.

2) Way to only post a portion of the PMs, and not the part where I explained that I had incorrectly worded that initial one. Classy. I'm done with the thread.

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Actually, the only thing I did crop was your name so I could protect your anonymity. You outed yourself. You've sent me a half dozen pm's today. Do I really need to post them all just to demonstrate that HTC knew about the problem and had supposedly already reported it to GREE an hour before Ram claimed to know nothing about it? Which part was incorrectly worded? That you noticed Cola was cheating or that you had reported it to GREE? Because I think your pm says it all.

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Originally Posted by Daniel2115

So now that htc has guys accused of glitching the thread needs too die. Too funny

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As far as I know that's been responded to in the proper channels (PM). If you feel the answers weren't sufficient - let me know. It was my understanding that your kinsman were satisfied with the response, at this time.

There are other threads on the bonus gold Gree gave out, perhaps you can take that anger to one of those.
-mxz

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Originally Posted by USA ShouldNukeNorthKorea

That's because MXZ doesn't want to lose his credibility on the forum and ingame.

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You might be the first to accuse me of credibility in game. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Daniel2115

How come its okay for someone in htc to take advantage of a glitch earning him over 160k in stats? Seems like you're a pretty big advocate against any kind of glitching/hacking. I figured you would've already have 5 or 6 post accusing your own group of cheating.

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Any reason you are calling HTC out on this but ignoring the other groups who have the same issue?

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Originally Posted by mxz

Guidelines over attempting to look "right".

This turned into a unit measuring contest that has gone grossly off topic. This thread served its purpose. SAS no longer has the player in question. Killshot got his answers and came to the same conclusion as the rest of us.

At this point, we need to let it die.

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If you had gotten to that point weeks ago, you could have saved a lot of people a lot of aggravation. You shouldn't have opened it back up again two days ago. We had already let it die.

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Originally Posted by mxz

As far as I know that's been responded to in the proper channels (PM). If you feel the answers weren't sufficient - let me know. It was my understanding that your kinsman were satisfied with the response, at this time.

There are other threads on the bonus gold Gree gave out, perhaps you can take that anger to one of those.
-mxz

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Perhaps you could stop calling out SAS with irrelevant accusations in unrelated threads, make some spreadsheets (JK I LOVE spreadsheets), and we could all let this die. We tried that last time and you refused. Now that you have been labeled as hypocrites, you're all to eager to let it die. It sucks doesn't it.

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Originally Posted by Ragmondino

Any reason you are calling HTC out on this but ignoring the other groups who have the same issue?

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Because HTC is the one syndicate who has been extremely overzealous and borderline obnoxious with their attempts to discredit SAS. If you want to condescendingly preach the high road best not to slip off it.

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Originally Posted by Killshot-CC

If you had gotten to that point weeks ago, we could have saved a lot of people a lot of aggravation. You shouldn't have opened it back up again two days ago. We had already let it die.

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The trolls are going to start getting jealous and leg humping us if we keep this up :)

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Originally Posted by Ragmondino

Any reason you are calling HTC out on this but ignoring the other groups who have the same issue?

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Must be because they don't have the same obsession with the other syns.

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Originally Posted by montecore

Because HTC is the one syndicate who has been extremely overzealous and borderline obnoxious with their attempts to discredit SAS. If you want to condescendingly preach the high road best not to slip off it.

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I would have liked this to die from day one. Seriously, just go play the game. You're trolling each other back and forth throwing around the SAS and HTC names that represent 60 or 120 people when you're talking to 2 people who are neither top contributors nor officers. I've already asked in the past that we just wash our hands of SAS communication, and I'm sorry that hasn't happened.

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Originally Posted by Ragmondino

Must be because they don't have the same obsession with the other syns.

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That's funny cause if I remember correctly htc's the group that had no problem accusing us of hacking all over the forums. You guys don't seem to be enjoying getting a taste of your own medicine.

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Originally Posted by USA ShouldNukeNorthKorea

But you said it yourself once - pics or it didn't happen.

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+1 they always ask for proof on the forum or in private that becomes public and gets Gree upset

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Originally Posted by Daniel2115

That's funny cause if I remember correctly htc's the group that had no problem accusing us of hacking all over the forums. You guys don't seem to be enjoying getting a taste of your own medicine.

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That was sexkitteh that called you out for posting on a hacker message board. To my knowledge, he's not part of HTC. I could be wrong, though. No challenge thread upcoming on that bet.

I don't think I've ever had anything negative to say about you - and most posters in that thread, a few HTC members, including myself, supported you.

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Originally Posted by mxz

That was sexkitteh that called you out for posting on a hacker message board. To my knowledge, he's not part of HTC. I could be wrong, though. No challenge thread upcoming on that bet.

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That was months ago and I gave out my account to everyone to check it out for themselves, did one person besides sexkitteh ever agree i hacked?

Edit- just saw that last part you added. I appreciate you supported me on that, but I don't appreciate you calling all of SAS hackers because we had one person in our group that was suspicious. I've really never had any type of problem with anyone in htc and still don't but I don't like to be accused of hacking.

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Originally Posted by Daniel2115

That's funny cause if I remember correctly htc's the group that had no problem accusing us of hacking all over the forums. You guys don't seem to be enjoying getting a taste of your own medicine.

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Gotcha. It's a grudge you hold because we showed people what you are really like. All understood.
When we did find a suspected hacker in sas, first move we made was a pm to the leader. After being told to mind our own business. We then explored other channels. Carry on, do your best. Everyone here sees you all for what you are. We have a good name, As do most other forum syndicates. There's only one that has universal dislike. Good luck going forward. Ill leave you lot to carry on making it worse for yourselves.

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Originally Posted by Luciferianism

I would have liked this to die from day one. Seriously, just go play the game. You're trolling each other back and forth throwing around the SAS and HTC names that represent 60 or 120 people when you're talking to 2 people who are neither top contributors nor officers. I've already asked in the past that we just wash our hands of SAS communication, and I'm sorry that hasn't happened.

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I wholly agree with this. I value my time being spent improving my character and helping others around me improve theirs. I don't like wasting my time defending myself and others publicly against attacks. I personally have a lot of respect for most of HTC, just not the actions of Mxz in his witch hunt and publicity campaign. I've asked the others to withdraw our mudslinging and get back to doing what we do best and enjoy the game as well, I hope you will do the same and appreciate your cool head.

I'd like to say one thing... You realize no1 likes HTC ? We've had more people on this thread support us than support htcs allegations . other than htc, obviously. Back off and stop posting. The only reason we post is because you did, and it would be rude not to respond :)
honestly I will be looking for anyone with an HTC tag now. Once the subject at hand is dropped I'll leave you alone.
Mxz post on here one more time Or Afed or anyone with something bad to say ( in htc) and we will come after you
Lucifer on the other hand can, he's got a good idea and I'd like to see this die down. Let it die and SAS will not go on an HTC rampage :)

Good luck to everyone during next war!

Is this the thread where I hump mxz's leg?

So let me get this straight, you're equating somebody who has 500 of all the most expensive cash items (obviously all legit *cough cough) to somebody who bought gold items because gree cocked up and gave away 65k to loads of people.?

Have I missed something?

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Originally Posted by thevlad

I'd like to say one thing... You realize no1 likes HTC ? We've had more people on this thread support us than support htcs allegations . other than htc, obviously. Back off and stop posting. The only reason we post is because you did, and it would be rude not to respond :)
honestly I will be looking for anyone with an HTC tag now. Once the subject at hand is dropped I'll leave you alone.
Mxz post on here one more time Or Afed or anyone with something bad to say ( in htc) and we will come after you
Lucifer on the other hand can, he's got a good idea and I'd like to see this die down. Let it die and SAS will not go on an HTC rampage :)

Good luck to everyone during next war!

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Level up to the shark tank and come at me bro.
You've been close enough to it for long enough

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Originally Posted by dudeman

Whether there are cheaters in SAS or not, you're bringing unnecessary attention on yourselves with this thread. If you have no cheaters, you have no worries, and don't need this thread. I'm not making any accusations, but I never knew there had been any made by anyone else either. This thread basically announces to the CC community that SAS has been accused of being cheats.

Now everyone you face will be taking a good hard look to see for themselves.

What does the first "s" in "SAS" stand for?

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Just a reminder that over two weeks ago I pointed out how retarded this thread was. Another reminder, a lot of people actually held some respect for SAS before this thread.

So what exactly does the first "s" in "SAS" stand for?

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Originally Posted by dudeman

Just a reminder that over two weeks ago I pointed out how retarded this thread was. Another reminder, a lot of people actually held some respect for SAS before this thread.

So what exactly does the first "s" in "SAS" stand for?

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Ask anybody in our group and you'll get the same response. It's "Sexy". Glad you noticed 😍😍😍

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Originally Posted by thevlad

I'd like to say one thing... You realize no1 likes HTC ? We've had more people on this thread support us than support htcs allegations . other than htc, obviously.

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http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/earth_wish_y...5z8iat_400.jpg

I would have called you delusional, but that would have been so harsh it may have caused you to fall off your flying cyborg unicorn.

Question..what does HTC stand for? Hang these crooks is what I have been told.

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Originally Posted by Crime Time

Question..what does HTC stand for? Hang these crooks is what I have been told.

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We don't stand, we're too lazy. At best we lounge slightly more upright than others.