No Worries killer yeah? Soon you and 5 other people will be the only ones in the sandpit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killer_Elite
I have not quit but have seriously pulled back on the intensity that I play this game.
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No Worries killer yeah? Soon you and 5 other people will be the only ones in the sandpit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killer_Elite
I have not quit but have seriously pulled back on the intensity that I play this game.
lately I have been getting slaughtered by players 50+ levels higher then me with stats in the 150-300k range my stats are 55k/75k
seems like a "great" matching system
Maybe a response today?
I must admit I really didnt take much notice of this thread, but just been hit for a million by someone 12 levels above me.... What the hell is going on??.
Noooooooo....
This experiment does not work, not even close. I am being paired against much weaker players, and I know there are a lot of stronger ones out there that I no longer see. Need to go back to the old system, this one was broken right out of the gates. It's also strange how the same players are the ones who no one can ever find, no matter what system is being used. I did notice that the more you attack someone, the more often you see them, especially if they attack back.
Just got attacked by a player 5 levels higher, yet eveyone in my rivals list is my level.
F U C K this game, and Gree. Ban me.
Never will spend another dollar on this game.
After a certain level, the higher level guys can see you, but you cannot see them. I would have to agree that at the least, if they can see and attack you, that you should have the same privilege.
I'm having that problem, and some. I can see higher level players. Level 200+. Unfortunately, I can't beat them. I'm level 141. Just saw Pirate Justice. His defense is almost 50 times my attack (unboosted) lol. Needless to say, I didn't attack.
Once you get to level 100, you can use all your units, so I don't get why the cutoff. I have had games well capable of battling with anyone at that level. Levels have nothing to do with your strength past that point. There are lvL 200 players who can't match some players at level 100. The only consideration is that with time, you have had the ability to get stronger. Most players will never be able to battle PJ, or many other players in the game, no matter what level they achieve. Lvls are not an indicator of very much.
I agree, there are many people at lower levels that can beat me. And, the fact that I'm only at 300 allies is my fault. I'm allying up now. The new list changed my strategy for the game. In the past, I have added and deleted allies depending on what I was trying to achieve at the time. Obviously, my strategy needs to be tweaked now. My post was more referring to the "macthing" of people with like stats. My 120k attack doesn't exactly match up with the stats of the rival's on my list. I'm trying to figure out if everyone else around this level is seeing this or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speed ump
I'm testing a theory now that the list may be based on density also. At 200 allies, I was 100k attack. The only people I could see were people at full allies and a very wide range. Does the new algorithm calculate me at my full allly potential based on 100k per every 200 allies. When I hit full allies, hopefully tomorrow, I will post my findings.
BTW Speed, thank you for acknowledging that the rival liust isn't quite what people had in mind.
Higher levels = more skill points and valor which can make a big difference alone ,but the main point here is high level players can see low level players but the low players can't see the high , that's is wrong whichever way you look at it .
I would urge the devs to reconsider this game change as for someone who spends gold to stand a better chance against people at their level, now becomes redundant as the playing field just got changed. Getting attacked and raided far more easily yet not being able to find weaker opponents without losing high end valour units.
Everyone here plays to their own strategy, whether that be doing their best without spending gold, focusing on getting high Income stream. For me personally, my strategy is to spend a little gold now and then, and use all my skill points on stamina. My IPH was not a priority as I am online a lot and use lots of stamina to earn valour and attain those units instead of buying money units. Now I can no longer attack because the new rivals list is drastically changed and its no longer worthwhile as the losses in units outweighs the reward. The game is now pointless and unrewarding from this point as it stands for me.
Please reverse this change.
Exactly. But I also wonder why this change doesn't seem to apply to everyone. I'm almost at the point of opening a ticket since my rivals list presents me with pages and pages of people too strong for me to attack--while for others in my faction, all seems normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by PFJchopper
Completely agree PFJchopper! I also raided a lot and gained enough valor to build a good army. This change has completely killed this strategy. I can barely find players weaker than me, and when I do, I lose so many units that attacking is just not worth it. So there goes my income and army strength...
Only way to go now is just to sit down and build IPH it seems...
That's what I've been doing since the change DunkNL. I'm not as bothered as some here about not seeing stronger players on my list, even the ones that see me. I wouldn't consider attacking or raiding them anyway, so I'd just as soon they didn't waste space on my list. What I really hate is that my list now includes players with def 250k higher than my attack, but the weakest player I see has def only about 20k less. PVP has become a loser's game for me. So yeah, now it's all about working on my base with an occasional event to liven things up. Most of the fun is gone. At this point I'm really only sticking around out of loyalty to my faction...and the waning hope that Gree will change it back.Quote:
Originally Posted by DunkNL
Still no response. Such a shame.
No help , my mlp just got raided by a guy 100 levels higher and over 100k stats better, one day mr apt ire I'm coming for you
As so many have mentioned... I have lost a player in my faction who is completely fed up.
I have two devices, well three really, but. The two iPads have different players, both about the same level, points etc however one has this nightmare list... I am level 65 with 60 allies the lowest opponent on my attack list has 140 allies all the way upto 2000 odd... Even if I allied to the max I still would be way off some of there attack points....
But my other iPad nothing has changed, the old system is still in place ???? Both have the latest versions.... If my main player does change I will close the faction and leave the game that's worth about £5,000 a year.
I have to remember this is a game, last month I spent £300 on a game....
Just a reply from admin would be nice... How can no one even bother replying...
Gree knows your threats are nothing but empty. £5,000 per annum to Gree is a penny in their pocket. But all that hard work you put into MW is as priceless to you as a beloved family member.
So guess who stands to lose more when you decide to leave? Gree knows you won't leave. Therefore they will continue to ignore you while you throw money at them.
You hit the nail on the head. I can deal with vaulting, collecting on time, not ever being able to do large upgrades again. The frustrating thing is that my rival page now has people from 100kdef to 5.2mil def. My attack is a little over 120k. I have to refresh numerous times before I find someone I can beat. This really sucks when one of my favorite parts of the game was PvP. I will stay in and fight with my faction, but my interest in this game has dwindled. I collect my buildings, donate my excess to my faction, then go to our chat site and interact because I enjoy the people. I actually think I ought to thank Gree. Thank you for curing my addiction and saving me a ton of money. I find I spend a lot more time on the forum and with my faction on other sites than I do in the game now. I still have my friends and am saving money. Win, win. Thank you Gree, I don't know if I could have done it without you.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedCloud
One person left my faction today, clearing there base...Quote:
Originally Posted by aphroKEN
Only to be replaced by a newcomer to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaRciS
Still an issue - please fix.
It's ridiculous - my current rival list shows only people with at least 4x my own ally count.
This is what makes this whole thing so frustrating. If EVERYONE was on the same rival list formula, we'd all be sitting out PVP, but at least it would be a level playing field. I'm getting hammered by players who DON'T have this rival list problem, watching my stats go down, down, down. My IPH is fine for developing my base OR developing my forces, but not both. I need PVP to keep up. Why has Gree closed off PVP for some of us, but not ALL of us?Quote:
Originally Posted by NaRciS
It seems Gree are not going to change their policy (for reasons i can speculate separately) so i have a compromise idea:
Gree should provide an Immunity chest that can be bought for a set period (say 72hours) and resets every month.
For example, immunity can be bought for say 50gold or 50mil (high enough but not too high to be out of reach of most players), and once triggered, that player cannot be attacked or raided for a set period of time (can be 48, 72 hours or what seems fair). Once bought, immunity cannot be used again for 1 month according to a count-down timer.
Benefits of Immunity:
- Players with families can spend time with families.
- Players who take holidays to places where there is no wifi or cellular coverage don't need to worry that their inventory is being wiped out by raiders
- Satisfy the complaining campers (like me) who now find it impossible to go over vault for the bit upgrades. time big upgrades
What do people think? comments?
I'd just like it to be consistent for everyone, regardless of what their decision is. Currently I am being attacked by people10-15 levels above me, but I cannot see them in my rivals list, nor can I see downward in mine. I am the former "normal", while others have this freedom.
It's kind of like not receiving your prizes during BFE and waiting for two weeks, while your rival factions have theirs and are using them to hit you. All we want is consistency, Gree.
^ your right, we can speculate all we want, but when you getting attacked by 10 levels higher than you and 1000+ more allies, it makes no sense. Is the number of players in this game so small that they need to make the playing field smaller?
One can only wonder. When the devs drop something this negative on SOME of their customers, you just gotta stand back and scratch your head. How did they choose the unlucky recipients? Is there a hidden message? Are we being punished? Did we do something to pi$$ the devs off? Have we not engaged in adequate amounts of bootlicking? If so, then I apologize for whatever and bow to our devs in recognition of their supreme excellence!Quote:
Originally Posted by WI(AusNz)
Seriously Gree. How can you continue to ignore these complaints? If you don't know how to fix it, just say so--and send us each a vault of gold to compensate ;-)
CJ can you please comment on this?
^ this, yes this please.
And please respond with more made up stuff about all the demand you had for this feature. Just have the guts to state outright the strategy (kill camping to promote more purchases) and stop cocking around with outright lies. It's embarrassing for a business professional.Quote:
Originally Posted by CDR Shepard
Got feedback from a ticket i sent on this issue just after Egypt
"Thank you for contacting GREE Support. We're always looking for new ways to improve our games. I will pass your feedback directly to our developers and hopefully this will change very soon."
When will this madness stop. Was raiding yesterday evening and again baam, got hit by a player who has 5x more allies than me and....is not visible on my rival list no matter how many times I refresh. Not so many levels and not so many allies arent seen. This crap happens every day, sometimes several times a day.
Greedy Gree, please FIX IT, or if U really wanna kill the game fast...make everyone see everyone, it will be a bloodbath for some weeks and after that, game dies :)
I'm being attacked regularly by someone with 300k attack. My defense is 82k boosted. Gree calls that "matched on power," lol. But I wouldn't mind that mismatch if there were people on my list who were that much weaker than me. I'd take advantage of it just like Mr. 300k. It just pi$$es me off that it's so lopsided. I lost 300 pts on my attack and 250 pts on defense yesterday to attacks from people like this Mr. 300k. And because Gree won't let me turn around and attack below me, I can only get it back by emptying my vault and stopping all donations and upgrades. I love my faction and want to be able to support them, but at the rate I'm bleeding power and money, I'll soon be useless to them.
I keep attacking you low ally people from high ally. I guess this is the new norm..... oh well I can deal with that.
i got attacked as well this morning and lost 600 a/d worth of units from being raided.. im level 109 and getting hit by lvl 120? really? also have level 95s trying to hit me as well... dont know what happened. kinda sucks to lose that many units and they are not my medium or high losses but by sea units with very low loss.. expensive hits i must say!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Krusha
Same thing is happening to me I used to be able to find weak people that I would attack simply to get wins for goals and because I wouldn't lose an astronomical amount of units. Now I get attack literally at least once every half hour by people twice my stats and I can more easily find someone on my rival list with over 1 million defense than someone with under 60k defense. It's asinine I can't do as many attacks as I used to because I can't keep up with the amount of units I lose I have low stamina (only 16) but if I use that all I drop my attack 400-500 points because of the units I lose. This has completely killed my valor and concrete collecting capabilities. This issue really needs to be fixed ASAP I have no clue how they can claim this to be a "fair playing field"Quote:
Originally Posted by RedCloud
not overvaulting at all, still getting hit. I only overvault for 30 min if needed to get something bigger (in those 30 min I try to waste all my energy and stamina to get the missing money).Quote:
Originally Posted by somedude
Until everyone quits and you have no one to attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by camper killer
CJ, you have clearly read this thread. Its hard to miss and you have said nothing. You have been back 6 days and there has been no communication at all. You asked for feedback and you got it. It seems the only way to change this to stop buying gold.
I say again, dont buy gold units. They have no purpose now. If you get stronger, the rivals get picked to be even stronger than you, so you get nowhere.