The Rainbow Coalition: Preconceptions & Misconceptions

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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

That's my point though PR, the disingenuous marketing is only helping Gree. In the other Gree games it is worth paying for #2, #3, & #4-10. In K&D there's almost no difference between 2-10; this makes #1 the only truly realistic goal for "serious" players.
That is Greed fault & they're slowly working to fix it, like we saw in BF+ reward. Right now people are playing right into Grees hands paying exorbitant amounts of money for nothing. Trying to overtake us as a single guild will only lose 1-2 members at a time, struggling to maintain a huge gem requirement just to beat us. We are offering an organized system of tiers based on a players personal gem budget.

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I agree with the fix you suggest of improving rewards for finishing 2-3 or 2-10. It is a flaw in GREEs game mechanics given the advantages inherent in epic+ armor.

I understand your offer, but I think it leads inevitably to a contest that is not a contest which defeats the point of playing the game. I am not saying you or RR or your offer is the problem (I agree it's GREE's game mechanics). But I don't agree with you that your offer represents any kind of solution either.

You solved the problem of how to be top guild forever at the least cost to you. That's impressive, but the result is boring. Why play a game where the outcome is known before you play?

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Originally Posted by busteroaf

Didn't you claim your guild was going to dethrone RR last time? I'm predicting you're going to fail just like always. Go back into hiding.

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When did I claim my baby guild was going to dethrone RR? Lol! What are you smoking again Busterroaf? Well, you're not even in RR anymore to even talk like you're going to be relevant to them next major war. You're just a mere minion useful when you have enough gems, you're out if you don't ^^

Point is, RR has an opponent who's got double the gems reserved and who's going to make your ex-guild spend more than ever ^^ Thus, Eunutroll's sudden pitch in the forums for, "helping the community, rotating the epics to players, etc." Most people aren't buying this PR move so top 3-10 can keep spending the way they want too, while top 1-2 goes for 50 million points next war =) That is if RR could even go for 50m points. ^^

Again, I won't suggest joining this coalition at all. Join DPA, Evolve, Konoha, Centurion and those other top 10 guilds NOT part of this so called coalition. Those guys have class, really nice group of people and not users. You'd have more fun playing the game with those guilds and players.

The usual hearsay & slander from KM. That aside, no one is arguing those guilds are not viable & won't be there for a long time or more. Every war players retire. Our retirees become top scorers in lower guilds. Everyone moved up. I didn't invent a system to stay #1 forever, my members will decide that. But unlike what KM loves to preach, we are congenial & far more helpful than we have to be. Sparkle asked me today why I formed an alliance with so many weak guilds (top 250, pale riders among many others). I said its because I have no ego & to mock the armor drop system. Am I expected to be an Ahole who is out to screw everyone only because I GM the #1 guild? I see no reason to not help any guild unlucky enough to face us in battle (especially a top 150 guild) & if Gree wants to employ broken systems, of which I started a thread solving the problem before it existed, then by all means, let's break it. RR has been taking losses from other Rainbow guilds since war 1, but it was these "guilds filled with good guys" that took exchanged GM farming to such an abusive level. I'm only creating a monopoly because I have to. More & more players are finding us on Line every day & I need somewhere to put them.

I suspect this FB war will be testing an armor locking mechanic of some sort, & so these non-rainbow coalitions may very well be useless from here on out. & should RR ever come in 2nd or even 3rd, I can assure you, King Mark, no one is jumping ship. & I haven't played this game for a year because I'm the GM of #1 guild. I'm not going anywhere & neither is the Rainbow.

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Originally Posted by II King Mark II

When did I claim my baby guild was going to dethrone RR? Lol! What are you smoking again Busterroaf? Well, you're not even in RR anymore to even talk like you're going to be relevant to them next major war. You're just a mere minion useful when you have enough gems, you're out if you don't ^^

Point is, RR has an opponent who's got double the gems reserved and who's going to make your ex-guild spend more than ever ^^ Thus, Eunutroll's sudden pitch in the forums for, "helping the community, rotating the epics to players, etc." Most people aren't buying this PR move so top 3-10 can keep spending the way they want too, while top 1-2 goes for 50 million points next war =) That is if RR could even go for 50m points. ^^

Again, I won't suggest joining this coalition at all. Join DPA, Evolve, Konoha, Centurion and those other top 10 guilds NOT part of this so called coalition. Those guys have class, really nice group of people and not users. You'd have more fun playing the game with those guilds and players.

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Like Eun said. More Mark trying to bash what he can never hope to accomplish.

And my apologies, I must have mistook one of your minions who claimed his guild was going to take down RR, and their GM was you. Or all the times you've said that RR wouldn't be #1 and yet they continue to stay that way.

Yes, true, I'm not in RR anymore. But I still have a front row seat to watch them stay #1. But I'm some poor lackey who hasn't chosen on his own to move down and help some of the lower guilds get a better footprint into the higher ranks of guild wars. Nope, I was kicked out, just like all the others. Right Eun?

I'm intrigued by this mystery shadow guild that magically from nowhere and has a double stock of gems, ready to take down RR. We don't even know its name yet. I'll believe it when I see it.

For now, go back to being a Sparkle copycat with your avatar and your second, third, or fourth account like you claim everyone else has. How is that original banned account doing for you? Funny that you still have a perma-ban while everyone else is magically back in action. Apparently even the Gree Forums hates you.

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Originally Posted by michwlvrins

Your excited that your GM is one of the laziest in the game? He leads by example right? No, wait. Thats not him/her, whatever "it" is. "It" barely scores past 20-30k while the constant revolving door of members keep winning "it" the prize. Why? Why wouldn't you just have your own guild devoid of "it"? Heck, I can give you a level 50+ guild with 7% bonuses across the board. RR's GM leads by example at least. EunuchoRRn might not be the highest scorer, but he's always in the top of the boards. Never, ever, near half-way or the bottom. As far as hating him, chances are you don't know him. All the things you hear are not anywhere near true. But you go ahead and sit there in your guild with a very confused, worthless, lazy GM leading you. We will push you out of the top 10 because you aren't worthy. Others will make better use of the epic prize.

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Hey dude, I think Eun has been a great strategist for this game and that is why he is the number 1 gm in the game. As for adex I don't need to defend him either. Evolve has been top 10 since the start and may drop out over time. I just disagree with the top 10 guilds all being RCoalition and the marketing around it. Hence the debate.

What happens when there are 11 rainbow guilds? Take turns to drop out of epic? More importantly the game part if the game goes.

And yes gree has many faults but they have fixed many things as well. So chill out

Top 25 is easy with a close knit active group of free players across a span of time zones. This isn't an overnight process, guilds are being built & tiered with 2 ranges of gem use. Essentially all the guilds will be balanced in spending. It's like I said, 2-10 is the same. There will be as many rainbow guilds as there need to be. Free players are happy to have a family on Line & be part of something big. I'm a peacemaker, not a dictator. I'm building up guilds so that as more spenders gain levels & look for high quality guilds, or people leave their current guild for whatever reason, will have somewhere to go. (Without losing too many element bonuses)
Just do a search of "Rainbow" guilds. Most of those aren't mine (The Rainbow Pee for example) but I'm slowly getting these people (who don't know the forum exists) on Line & into K&D communities they never knew existed.

Eunny, I really hate to say it;

Your general trollishness and rampant discouraging is non-existent when you set your mind to a task that you believe to be in the benefit of the greater good. This scares me more than a dictator. The greatest evils have been accomplished by those of the best intentions.

For the record though: I'm neither in support, nor opposed, to the idea as presented. There are merits, and there are disadvantages, to both perspectives. I have no inclination towards either currently, and will go where the tide flows.

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Originally Posted by EljayK

Eunny, I really hate to say it;

Your general trollishness and rampant discouraging is non-existent when you set your mind to a task that you believe to be in the benefit of the greater good. This scares me more than a dictator. The greatest evils have been accomplished by those of the best intentions.

For the record though: I'm neither in support, nor opposed, to the idea as presented. There are merits, and there are disadvantages, to both perspectives. I have no inclination towards either currently, and will go where the tide flows.

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How's everything going on the neutral planet, your neutralness?

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Originally Posted by The Pale Rider

How's everything going on the neutral planet, your neutralness?

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Been better, been worse. I have no strong feeling towards it

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Originally Posted by EljayK

Been better, been worse. I have no strong feeling towards it

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LoL!

Thanks Eljay, I will take what you said as a compliment.
The world around us is changing very fast. Remember The Eunuchorn.

For the record, all of my trolling is geared towards getting people to try & think. It just doesn't work out so well most of the time.

Rainbow Hugs!

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Originally Posted by busteroaf

I'm intrigued by this mystery shadow guild that magically from nowhere and has a double stock of gems, ready to take down RR. We don't even know its name yet. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Its DPA busteroaf :P. Almost all the top 10 guilds know at this point.

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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

LoL!

Thanks Eljay, I will take what you said as a compliment.
The world around us is changing very fast. Remember The Eunuchorn.

For the record, all of my trolling is geared towards getting people to try & think. It just doesn't work out so well most of the time.

Rainbow Hugs!

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I still have screenshots of you saying you like me. I intend to compile all of this into a blackmailing propaganda campaign to worm my way into RR as a F2P for a GW.

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Originally Posted by Sparkle_DPA

Its DPA busteroaf :P. Almost all the top 10 guilds know at this point.

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It should be a fun war! :D

No blackmail necessary, want to GM a baby rainbow guild for me?

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Originally Posted by Sparkle_DPA

Its DPA busteroaf :P. Almost all the top 10 guilds know at this point.

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I really hope you're kidding, for your own sake. If Mark was in my guild, I'd quit and never come back.