Things I Wish I Knew When I Was A Noob by Radlonghammer

My Wanderer's Shroud got submitted for creation prior to getting it upgraded to the + version. Don't ask how... When you are creating mass amounts of armor the confirm button is in the same place...so if you click...well you see what happened to me.

Two Questions:
1. If I get my current non + version enhanced to level 35 before the armor completes at the armorsmith will it be the + version? Never tried this...and wondering if I am wasting my time creating fire armor for the cause.

2. If the above can't happen/work. Has anyone had any luck with Gree correcting one account for a user?

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Originally Posted by Nomedac

My Wanderer's Shroud got submitted for creation prior to getting it upgraded to the + version. Don't ask how... When you are creating mass amounts of armor the confirm button is in the same place...so if you click...well you see what happened to me.

Two Questions:
1. If I get my current non + version enhanced to level 35 before the armor completes at the armorsmith will it be the + version? Never tried this...and wondering if I am wasting my time creating fire armor for the cause.

2. If the above can't happen/work. Has anyone had any luck with Gree correcting one account for a user?

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1. No, it doesn't.

2. No, Gree doesn't give you back your armor that you've crafted by accident.

EDIT: Nevermind misread the post

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Originally Posted by Marco_

Gree support can't switch your old account over to your new phone?

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Dont want it. It is more fun to earn it than to have used a bug to get everything.

Noob quesiton :

Is it better to level AA+ or should I Go with boreas armor? Beth have the same elements but boreas can Get better stats I belive?

If it's the + version, then yes, level Boreas. But don't if it's the regular version. It'll take you 4-5x more gold and 3x as much EP to max Boreas as it does AA+.

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Originally Posted by Unresolved

If it's the + version, then yes, level Boreas. But don't if it's the regular version. It'll take you 4-5x more gold and 3x as much EP to max Boreas as it does AA+.

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Nah its the regular boreas, then I will stick to AA Thanks!!

hey forum people who are used to being able to get + armours! The non plus armours have decent base and growth these days. Boreas non + (stats combined is 1810) is pretty damn equivalent to Rocfeather+ (stats combined is 1880), with the benefit of having grouped elements. Of course grab an AA+ first, but these new non + armours might be the new stepping stones to getting legendary + armours. Just my two cents.

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Originally Posted by overcire

hey forum people who are used to being able to get + armours! The non plus armours have decent base and growth these days. Boreas non + (stats combined is 1810) is pretty damn equivalent to Rocfeather+ (stats combined is 1880), with the benefit of having grouped elements. Of course grab an AA+ first, but these new non + armours might be the new stepping stones to getting legendary + armours. Just my two cents.

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Yeah that could be considered, but it would still be better to go for the swamp+, infernal+ as dark prince+ first, since they have the superior stats. Roc+ and spectral+ are the lower end of the 70+ spectrum. Maybe when the normal boss armors have better stats then maybe it would be preferred. It could still be useful for completing some of the missing elements though.

what does "grouped elements" mean?

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Originally Posted by ZERO_07

what does "grouped elements" mean?

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Elements that are adjacent on the element wheel. Air/Earth, Fire/Water, Water/Air, Fire/Spirit, Spirit/Earth

do we, as a forum, have a better word for grouped-elements? I mean element that are 'touching' on the circle. water-fire, earth-air.

I find these combinations beneficial as they can provide double damage against another set of 'grouped elements' with out taking bonus damage. That is something that split-element armors never can do.

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Originally Posted by overcire

do we, as a forum, have a better word for grouped-elements? I mean element that are 'touching' on the circle. water-fire, earth-air.

I find these combinations beneficial as they can provide double damage against another set of 'grouped elements' with out taking bonus damage. That is something that split-element armors never can do.

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Adjacent elements? Doesn't really matter what you call it :p.

Elemental pairs?

I wish I knew this guide from beginning......

Thank you Rad ... your guide is very detail and informative!

Have big 4, should I level them 1 at a time to increase farming speed or all together?

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Originally Posted by Derp

Have big 4, should I level them 1 at a time to increase farming speed or all together?

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Best to level them one at a time based on need. So in this case HH+ should be your priority to help you with the
current boss.

Hi all, how do you get a + armor that cant be smithed? e.g. flowstone battlegear+ etc.

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Originally Posted by coranium

Hi all, how do you get a + armor that cant be smithed? e.g. flowstone battlegear+ etc.

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DPC or limited edition chests only

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Originally Posted by coranium

Hi all, how do you get a + armor that cant be smithed? e.g. flowstone battlegear+ etc.

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those armors you will get will have 700/500 max stats on plus, like i saw on some old eunuchorn post. Your story armor like atlan avenge ro crius will have more than 700/700 on the plus version, so, dont worry about them.

Ecept for flowstone battlegear, if you manage to get a plus, you will have 800/700, slighty better then crius +, but getting a flowstone plus from chests is very very rare.

A very well written guide. And yes, I wish I had found it 100 levels ago.

awesome thread!

Gree needs to make the chat system in K&D more developed. I was level 70 before I learned about the forums or any of the fantastic knowledge in this thread. I think the reason is, until you stumble across a guild that is helpful and uses something line Line, you have no way of learning from other players. There needs to be a serious push for more in-game chat just so new players can discover the forums and get help from other players before they waste a month and 7 million gold using poor strategies like I did :P

Just to check. I shouldnt bother making the non plus version of the assassins armor correct? I was going to level my infernal plus armor. I have the big 4 capped. Confused on where to go next.

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Originally Posted by Derp

Just to check. I shouldnt bother making the non plus version of the assassins armor correct? I was going to level my infernal plus armor. I have the big 4 capped. Confused on where to go next.

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if you can't make the + armor of the assassin then y its better to get infernal+ up

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Originally Posted by Derp

Just to check. I shouldnt bother making the non plus version of the assassins armor correct? I was going to level my infernal plus armor. I have the big 4 capped. Confused on where to go next.

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bring your assassin to level 35 first so you can craft the + version

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Originally Posted by Derp

Just to check. I shouldnt bother making the non plus version of the assassins armor correct? I was going to level my infernal plus armor. I have the big 4 capped. Confused on where to go next.

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boss armors non plus are only a bit better than the big four, and a lot worse than the high story armor, like infernal or swamp shaman. So, unles you hit 43 or something near, dont focus too much on them.

Sorry my thread is all over the place but really need help--- Thanks!!!

So i bought some dark prince chests and I received the following armors....

Even though they are super rare it seems they arent better then just regular rare.

Do I just use them to fuse or what?

Embersteel
Monk's Vestments
Volcanic Mantle
Brawler's Armor
Glacier Armor
Lightning Lord
Monstrous Garb
Riverstone Mantle
Steam Wizards Robe



I also have

Atlean Avenger+ 1/50
Hydra Hunters Mail+ 1/50
(working on getting a + version of Living Flame and Crius) Unless I should do a different armor instead.
Slimebane Battlegear & Assassins Shroud - Non + which I realize now is a mistake, however should I still level them?

The big question I have is which armors do I level, I can work on being able to craft + versions of the Big 4, or do I focus on making my Battlegear/Shroud better, it looks like their stats are still vastly better then anything else I own.

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Originally Posted by Gorgomite

Sorry my thread is all over the place but really need help--- Thanks!!!

So i bought some dark prince chests and I received the following armors....

Even though they are super rare it seems they arent better then just regular rare.

Do I just use them to fuse or what?

Embersteel
Monk's Vestments
Volcanic Mantle
Brawler's Armor
Glacier Armor
Lightning Lord
Monstrous Garb
Riverstone Mantle
Steam Wizards Robe



I also have

Atlean Avenger+ 1/50
Hydra Hunters Mail+ 1/50
(working on getting a + version of Living Flame and Crius) Unless I should do a different armor instead.
Slimebane Battlegear & Assassins Shroud - Non + which I realize now is a mistake, however should I still level them?

The big question I have is which armors do I level, I can work on being able to craft + versions of the Big 4, or do I focus on making my Battlegear/Shroud better, it looks like their stats are still vastly better then anything else I own.

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Use the DPC rares to enhance, none of them are worth leveling.

As for slimebane and assassins normal, don't level them at all. Focus on the big4+ first. With the amount of gold you'll use to even level it to 60, you can max out all 4 of the big 4 already.

Wow thats some insane info , i am glad that some one takes this serious :p

does anyone else farm the first 3 stages like crazy? i collected 500 stone shards once haha

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Originally Posted by ilvtfu

does anyone else farm the first 3 stages like crazy? i collected 500 stone shards once haha

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you will get lots,and i say lots, while farmimg for evil jewels. So much shards that you cant even think to craft all those armors. Actually i have some hundreds of stone shards that i got from cerberus and kraken, those seems to be the most commons.

This treath helped me so mutch in the beginning of the game THX

Thanks a lot for the guide, it is really great! I'm level 47, but still feel like a noob =). Since I JUST found this guide, I haven't been following it up until now. I have the following armors:

Brawlers Amor - 24/50
Wavecharmer's Mantle - 20/50
Spectral Captain's Uniform - 17/70
Torchflame Mantle - 17/50
Forgemaster's Garb- 14/50
Flamestorm Finery- 9/50
Atlantean Avenger Armor- 1/50
Living Flame Armor- 1/50
Wind Monarch's Robes- 1/50

Should I go back and level up the Big Four now, or just keep levelling what I have already?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by makelifesimple

Thanks a lot for the guide, it is really great! I'm level 47, but still feel like a noob =). Since I JUST found this guide, I haven't been following it up until now. I have the following armors:

Brawlers Amor - 24/50
Wavecharmer's Mantle - 20/50
Spectral Captain's Uniform - 17/70
Torchflame Mantle - 17/50
Forgemaster's Garb- 14/50
Flamestorm Finery- 9/50
Atlantean Avenger Armor- 1/50
Living Flame Armor- 1/50
Wind Monarch's Robes- 1/50

Should I go back and level up the Big Four now, or just keep levelling what I have already?

Thanks!

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Big 4, without a doubt. They will be useful on your 2nd/3rd knight for epic bosses for a LONG time.

I realy appreciate the fast response! Thanks!

OMG wish I knew about this guide when I first started knd :(. Oh well it's never too late I guess haha.

Great thread, always love to re-read to make sure I am on the right path...

Have been playing for 5 weeks now and I am Lvl 97, but have only limited armors below:
1) the big 4+s maxed out
2) infernal+ @ lvl 20
3) just starting to get my dark prince+ @lvl 1

At a crossroad if I should level my infernal+ and dark prince+, or aim for an epic armor+.

Reading the thread, there seems opinions that it is harder to get to lvl 43 boss kills...but how much harder?
Do i stand a chance?
Anyone has a gauge on when someone is "ready" to gun for epics,in terms of lvl, armor, and friendly support fire?

I am thinking to buy some gems (375 gems) and try to get a nemesis armor for the next boss and start my gunning.
Or perhaps I should stick to levelling my infernal+ and dark prince+ first?

Any advice is deeply appreciated.
Better yet, if any of the big boys here can lend support to me (XBD YPF FXM), will be doubly grateful!

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Originally Posted by Native02

Great thread, always love to re-read to make sure I am on the right path...

Have been playing for 5 weeks now and I am Lvl 97, but have only limited armors below:
1) the big 4+s maxed out
2) infernal+ @ lvl 20
3) just starting to get my dark prince+ @lvl 1

At a crossroad if I should level my infernal+ and dark prince+, or aim for an epic armor+.

Reading the thread, there seems opinions that it is harder to get to lvl 43 boss kills...but how much harder?
Do i stand a chance?
Anyone has a gauge on when someone is "ready" to gun for epics,in terms of lvl, armor, and friendly support fire?

I am thinking to buy some gems (375 gems) and try to get a nemesis armor for the next boss and start my gunning.
Or perhaps I should stick to levelling my infernal+ and dark prince+ first?

Any advice is deeply appreciated.
Better yet, if any of the big boys here can lend support to me (XBD YPF FXM), will be doubly grateful!

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Level 90-100 should be about right to get your first boss level 43.
If the boss elements are decent, big four armors are just fine to use, provided you have enough friends with suitable armors. (the last day before the boss disappears you'll probably doing 4/3 or 3/4 formation, which uses up 2+2=4 friends per level...)
I myself am using Crius+/AA+/AA+ for this boss.
Being in a guild with its guild element bonuses (or even better the further bonusses from guild leadership positions) should also help a lot.

Only reason to stop enhancing/leveling an armor: if you've got a better armor to enhance crafting/ready.
Always keep working on more enhancement material unless you armory is full.
In other words: go for that epic boss, but keep enhancing the armors you've got at the same time. Boss fighting doesn't hamper your farming abilities except for maybe at Kingdom of Darkness (since you'll need your friends for the boss) and the timing on when to trigger the boss.