BIRDS are DONE! Flew the coop. The flock has Dropped!

Reminds me of someone....

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Originally Posted by Agent Orange

Reminds me of someone....

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Ysetty sum do thoug it beed hers. OLL MLALo

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I am you, you are me, we are we.

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Originally Posted by Speed ump

Lol. If something appears to be true, is it true? If you believe it is true, does it make it so? AO, Dew, hell, wbs, etc etc, i am enjoy your posts about much of nothing, talking in circles and chasing your own tails. Your own words contradict previous statements, and for some reason you seem to think you're in some position of being thought of as an authority figure. The word several of you have used to describe me, arrogant, seems to be quite fitting, but you really need to look in the mirror when using it. If your thoughts went in a straight line at least, you might have some semblance of rationale thinking( though if the straight line is just post anything that attempts to degrade anyone who isn't part of the hate mob, then I can see some form of illogical logic in that. Very emotional and tantrum like, but I can follow that, as some people need to try to bring others down to their own level of despair in order to achieve some feeling of normalcy and self worth for themselves) in either case, I do enjoy seeing all the flailing about, attempts to discredit those who arnt as negative as yourselves, those who use a little logic and common sense in their posts. I know you don't get it when your own words put you I. Your own crosshairs, but it gives me a little chuckle anyways, along with the rest of us. The vast majority of the gamers perceive the same things whenever they talk about the forum. You guys havnt figured out that your words of woe and despair will never expand outside your own little band of merry whiners. So carry on, i enjoy it for the entertainment value, and guess what, it dosnt cost me anything but a few words here and there to spur you on, and keep my chuckles coming.

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Please, I implore you to use a few paragraphs to make it that little easier for me to read your posts.

I'm not sure, which post has spurred your little rant. Hopefully it wasn't my last few posts, as they are made in the eye's of a subjective person that could be part of any group, whether players, retired players or employee's. Unfortunately i was forced to provide some examples which my have limited the thinking of some when reading it.

I personally haven't talked about the eventual demise of the game for quite some time and haven't intended on mentioning it (other than replying to your post now)

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The vast majority of the gamers perceive the same things whenever they talk about the forum

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Do you now speak for the 100,000s of players (or however many are left). I can only comment on the Line and GroupMe rooms that I am a part of. I am somewhat reflecting the words that come from these rooms and therefore originate from a non-forum based sources (Not "our little band of whiners"). In fact within the faction based GM rooms that I'm in, I am one of a few in the forums, however the feeling within the rooms is the same.

At present, with no Community Team :( , and poor communication going on, the forums are not as good a source of information as they once were. Fewer noobs are asking questions (and know some scare them off, but i do try an answer honest questions). But, because of the lack of communication the forums have regressed to this state. This is not the fault of the "trolls" (whether that encompasses you, me, the dew nuttins or anyone else (again subjective)), it is the fault of Gree. With a major online mobile game such as this, social media is one of the most effective form of communication and it is being severely underutilized

Take Relic as an example. She worked at Ubisoft and was a great communicator. But, in the world over here, she was but a pawn. Unable to change things. Passing back our feedback and not getting any back in return. Rather than her role being seen as a essential for the game, it was almost (apparently) seen as inefficient and detrimental.. With things like this going on, is it any wonder that the forums have disintegrated

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Originally Posted by HellRaizer

Please, I implore you to use a few paragraphs to make it that little easier for me to read your posts.

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I asked for the same a few years ago and it has still not happened so get used to it..... Speed ump will always be Speed ump and for some reason I dont want him to change now... I got used to read those fat posts and it helped me read my Bible.....

Haha, thank you steelman. It's just my style. AO, a disgruntled customer you might be, but in most cases I have not seen disgruntled customers attack customers, and the justify it by the poor service of the company you are unhappy with. This is exactly what you and the rest of the mob have done. If you feel that's justification, I'd say maybe there's something you're lacking in the way of a value system, but since this is supposedly a mostly free country, you have the right to say as you wish. that dosnt make it socially acceptable, but there are people in the world that dosnt mean much to.

@Speed, are you randomly ranting at people due to some unrelated topics?..

Certainly seems like you are selectively reading/ignoring the comms in this thread...

I then I notice, that you decide the tell a newbie to do opposite of what they want to do....

Pot calling kettle.. And all that

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Originally Posted by TxTireMan

Just downloaded MW....been playing CrimeCity for a long time....essentially do the same thing huh?

*need a faction....will not use communication app but will be active.....

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Originally Posted by Speed ump

Tire man, I think you will find that some form of chat will be a necessity to communicate with your teamates. I can't see a team performing well together without good communication and discussing goals etc. also that's really the draw of these games, getting to interact with the people on the team. I've known some of my teammates for four years now, some have moved on to other games that I also play with them, some I have met in person and we have occasional get togethers for BBQ, and old stories.

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MW CAN NEVER have winners of losers

I do not understand what is all the fuzz about winners and losers, as MW has none of them

To tell the truth..........in my personal view, a winner and a loser cannot be ever determine in MW, all we can determine here is free players, lite gold players, spenders and heavy spenders, and of course the heavy spenders like SUP, EW, Goodfellas will always be able to BUY the top spots on FL and WD or to complete all events they choose to, if that gives them entertainment, then good for them.

To determine a winner or a loser on events like FL and WD, all teams would need to be on same ground, in the case of FL and WD, that would mean, no bonuses, no gold, perhaps for WD adjust all stats to be similar

FL with no gold, the very active teams with a good strategy would come ahead of the rest, we may see a top 500 team in top 20 or top 10

But we all know that is never going to be possible, thus there can never be a winner or a loser in any of the MW events, you can only have people trying to buy the desire rank

if there are winner or loser during FL or WD, it would be among the free factions, since they do have to rely on team work and strartegy (like when to use the free healthpacks they get, when to battle, when to deploy units) to max their points/wins

In the end this is suppose to be a game (regardless of GREE trying hard to make it onto a huge beta test experiment) and all games should bring fun and entertainment to its players.....................so if you are having fun, then just enjoy it...............if you are not having fun.............best is to move on as many have done................as we know GREE will never be capable of properly running the game

Also, Speed, attacking OA has confused me somewhat. Let's look back to when the forum was a positive place (ish), the game was enjoyable (and certainly worth gold purchases). We had some great characters.. Dutchie with his quick banter, Devin with his near instant LTQ guides and Agent Organe creating player guides, jumping in and advising newbies.. (Many other good guys/gals as well)..... What were you doing then, and remembered for??? Having the same argument with Ferr. While the community mostly got on, there were you two, constantly fighting

Roll onto to now... Game sucks, forum can't be positive because of it.... So we have joined you, and replaced Ferr to be someone to argue with, because you seem to need to have that attention. But just remember who the helpful guys were, before you throw the accusations..

Losers are all mw players including me and winners are gree

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Originally Posted by HellRaizer

Also, Speed, attacking OA has confused me somewhat. Let's look back to when the forum was a positive place (ish), the game was enjoyable (and certainly worth gold purchases). We had some great characters.. Dutchie with his quick banter, Devin with his near instant LTQ guides and Agent Organe creating player guides, jumping in and advising newbies.. (Many other good guys/gals as well)..... What were you doing then, and remembered for??? Having the same argument with Ferr. While the community mostly got on, there were you two, constantly fighting

Roll onto to now... Game sucks, forum can't be positive because of it.... So we have joined you, and replaced Ferr to be someone to argue with, because you seem to need to have that attention. But just remember who the helpful guys were, before you throw the accusations..

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So you mean, back when the forum was "good", dump was nothing more than a...... troll?

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Originally Posted by HellRaizer

At present, with no Community Team :( , and poor communication going on, the forums are not as good a source of information as they once were. Fewer noobs are asking questions (and know some scare them off, but i do try an answer honest questions). But, because of the lack of communication the forums have regressed to this state. This is not the fault of the "trolls" (whether that encompasses you, me, the dew nuttins or anyone else (again subjective)), it is the fault of Gree. With a major online mobile game such as this, social media is one of the most effective form of communication and it is being severely underutilized

Take Relic as an example. She worked at Ubisoft and was a great communicator. But, in the world over here, she was but a pawn. Unable to change things. Passing back our feedback and not getting any back in return. Rather than her role being seen as a essential for the game, it was almost (apparently) seen as inefficient and detrimental.. With things like this going on, is it any wonder that the forums have disintegrated

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In a way, we tried (in the CC forum) to tell Tadaaah, Clementine, Relic and Bolt that their jobs were pointless, keep résumé handy, etc... because some of us have been around so long that we know CMs are pawns here. A month before the ax came down, I posted we were due for a CM turnover. Clementine immediately came out from hiding "behind the scenes" to post that we were stuck with them.

The forums have never been about GREE giving info: they want players to figure things out. Issues, like bug fixes and event changes, are when we needed communication, but that has always been insufficient or too vague.

I cannot imagine how frustrating it was for them, but I'm sure the pay and perks made up for it, so they stayed. Sometimes I thought the devs gave the CMs wrong info to post here just to mess with them (& us.) When they ended Beyond the Dead, i could tell Clementine was not happy with her job. Her posts seemed bitter. Bolt & Relic seemed to be trying to be helpful; they were still new. Bolt was really trying. Check out Bolt's last post.

Relic was too sensitive and bias, imho, for these forums. I lost all respect for her when she told me in PM not to tell anybody she was a chick. As if we'd respect her more if we thought she was a dude? Heh, whatever. Game-playing as another gender is one thing, but this was her job. I hope she finds a better job where she doesn't feel the need to pretend she's a dude to be respected.

(BTW, I'm not a feminist by any means; I just sound like one in this post.)

Lol everyone knew relic was a chick

haha, I figured so much before she told me but found it weird she didn't want me to tell. To each, their own. :)

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Originally Posted by Speed ump

Lol. If something appears to be true, is it true? If you believe it is true, does it make it so? AO, Dew, hell, wbs, etc etc, i am enjoy your posts about much of nothing, talking in circles and chasing your own tails. Your own words contradict previous statements, and for some reason you seem to think you're in some position of being thought of as an authority figure. The word several of you have used to describe me, arrogant, seems to be quite fitting, but you really need to look in the mirror when using it. If your thoughts went in a straight line at least, you might have some semblance of rationale thinking( though if the straight line is just post anything that attempts to degrade anyone who isn't part of the hate mob, then I can see some form of illogical logic in that. Very emotional and tantrum like, but I can follow that, as some people need to try to bring others down to their own level of despair in order to achieve some feeling of normalcy and self worth for themselves) in either case, I do enjoy seeing all the flailing about, attempts to discredit those who arnt as negative as yourselves, those who use a little logic and common sense in their posts. I know you don't get it when your own words put you I. Your own crosshairs, but it gives me a little chuckle anyways, along with the rest of us. The vast majority of the gamers perceive the same things whenever they talk about the forum. You guys havnt figured out that your words of woe and despair will never expand outside your own little band of merry whiners. So carry on, i enjoy it for the entertainment value, and guess what, it dosnt cost me anything but a few words here and there to spur you on, and keep my chuckles coming.

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I would love to see you back up all your baseless accusations on members of this forum, you seem to have a very bad habit of that Speed. Please do us a favor and back it up with some substance instead of doing it to troll.

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Originally Posted by Vile Lynn

In a way, we tried (in the CC forum) to tell Tadaaah, Clementine, Relic and Bolt that their jobs were pointless, keep résumé handy, etc... because some of us have been around so long that we know CMs are pawns here. A month before the ax came down, I posted we were due for a CM turnover. Clementine immediately came out from hiding "behind the scenes" to post that we were stuck with them.

The forums have never been about GREE giving info: they want players to figure things out. Issues, like bug fixes and event changes, are when we needed communication, but that has always been insufficient or too vague.

I cannot imagine how frustrating it was for them, but I'm sure the pay and perks made up for it, so they stayed. Sometimes I thought the devs gave the CMs wrong info to post here just to mess with them (& us.) When they ended Beyond the Dead, i could tell Clementine was not happy with her job. Her posts seemed bitter. Bolt & Relic seemed to be trying to be helpful; they were still new. Bolt was really trying. Check out Bolt's last post.

Relic was too sensitive and bias, imho, for these forums. I lost all respect for her when she told me in PM not to tell anybody she was a chick. As if we'd respect her more if we thought she was a dude? Heh, whatever. Game-playing as another gender is one thing, but this was her job. I hope she finds a better job where she doesn't feel the need to pretend she's a dude to be respected.

(BTW, I'm not a feminist by any means; I just sound like one in this post.)

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When BOD was announced, I was still part of the mod group and in their chats (slack app). It came as a complete surprise to them. They knew something was up, but the player base worked it out before they were told

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Originally Posted by WBS

Correction- it is not on billboard 100. Your response can not be considered a correction as it does not correct any misguided information. You will need to call the top 100 bill board commission and apologize for the insult it is to even pretend a poem about birds and pirates would be mentioned in the top 100. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

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Added* Surfing Bird...Bird is the Word was number 4 on billboards in 1963. One of the sup founders recorded it.
The current rap song will most likely climb higher on the charts. Its already gone platinum

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Originally Posted by HellRaizer

When BOD was announced, I was still part of the mod group and in their chats (slack app). It came as a complete surprise to them. They knew something was up, but the player base worked it out before they were told

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All lies. They did as little as possible just like their bosses. Is part of their training program.

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Originally Posted by crazeejay

And the rest of the MW community gives zero skcuf :rolleyes:

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WRONG!!

We actually do care, we play the game and take an interest.

Move on buddy!!

What all this blabber has to do with the theme of this thread. I fully respect that low tier teams do not care about rivalry between top factions and rather would complain about boss health been too high for rb or ltq requires too much energy. May be they can ask mods make sub forum for them so they whine and commiserate together.

For those who are playing in major league a death of the flock is a big deal. So if you do not care do not post. You have 300 threads started by PJ where you can participate and show your depth and wisdom.

It’s also funny that the same people who are whining and trolling here now are been long enough on this forum to witness Ferr’s public virtual MW suicide, that he stretch for 3 weeks while opening new thread every time he would delete silo or armory or oil rig.

The bottom line is birds are dead and SUP is victorious. Thank you very much for your warm cheers.

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Originally Posted by HellRaizer

When BOD was announced, I was still part of the mod group and in their chats (slack app). It came as a complete surprise to them. They knew something was up, but the player base worked it out before they were told

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Well yeah, it was obvious after GREE announced the VC office was closing. None of the CMs posted anything until it was "official" and finally, after 10 days of BtD customers flooding the other forums with questions about BtD's status, Clementine finally spoke up. She could have said something like, "let me find out..." or something, anything, instead of leaving them hanging with no response for 10 days.

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Originally Posted by MAD NUGGETT

All lies. They did as little as possible just like their bosses. Is part of their training program.

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lol, I agree they did as little as possible, but I think it was out of spite, not their training program.

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Originally Posted by MAD NUGGETT

Added* Surfing Bird...Bird is the Word was number 4 on billboards in 1963. One of the sup founders recorded it.
The current rap song will most likely climb higher on the charts. Its already gone platinum

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Good one Mad Nugget. Well I guess everyone drops off the billboard as the "bird" is no longer the word here anymore lol.

I promise you the CMs did everything they could, but they had no position of power. Every issue that was raised they would bring to development or support. But, that was as far as they could go. They couldn't fix issues, they couldn't even get stuff prioritised. Yes they attended internal meetings about new features and releases. But they were never given timelines and the info they were given was no more than the basic details that CS got.. They didn't have access to support tools, or any sql skills. Their hands were tied.

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Originally Posted by Genen

What all this blabber has to do with the theme of this thread. I fully respect that low tier teams do not care about rivalry between top factions and rather would complain about boss health been too high for rb or ltq requires too much energy. May be they can ask mods make sub forum for them so they whine and commiserate together.

For those who are playing in major league a death of the flock is a big deal. So if you do not care do not post. You have 300 threads started by PJ where you can participate and show your depth and wisdom.

It’s also funny that the same people who are whining and trolling here now are been long enough on this forum to witness Ferr’s public virtual MW suicide, that he stretch for 3 weeks while opening new thread every time he would delete silo or armory or oil rig.

The bottom line is birds are dead and SUP is victorious. Thank you very much for your warm cheers.

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What do you mean SUp is victorious? Sup has always been the top spender in the game, and always has gotten the first spot? I enjoyed reading Ferrs posts as it gave us an insight into the rivalry between him and PUn at the time, it gave us an insight to the best player or biggest spender in the game at that time. I don't think there has been as interesting read pertaining to this game then those posts of his retirement. It was also fun reading the bashing between the birds and pirates.

Funny that the only ones that care about this are the SUPpets.

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Originally Posted by Genen

What all this blabber has to do with the theme of this thread. I fully respect that low tier teams do not care about rivalry between top factions and rather would complain about boss health been too high for rb or ltq requires too much energy. May be they can ask mods make sub forum for them so they whine and commiserate together.

For those who are playing in major league a death of the flock is a big deal. So if you do not care do not post. You have 300 threads started by PJ where you can participate and show your depth and wisdom.

It’s also funny that the same people who are whining and trolling here now are been long enough on this forum to witness Ferr’s public virtual MW suicide, that he stretch for 3 weeks while opening new thread every time he would delete silo or armory or oil rig.

The bottom line is birds are dead and SUP is victorious. Thank you very much for your warm cheers.

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Dude. News flash. You're not playing major league. You're spending stupid amounts of money to buy pixels. Hence the apathy to your "achievement". Accomplish something real if you want respect.

Please, your jealousy is showing. Every game , sport , or contest, has their top participants. Yes it's some sort of big deal to many people go play at the top like genen said. I've been in enough chats, rivals convos etc, to know that is indeed true. If it wasn't, then why all the efforts to beat sup, or beat the birds, or Kys, or whoever a particular team is trying to beat. Each team members congratulate themselves on a great performance when they win a direct battle against the ones the feel they are competing against. Maybe it's not a prime time event, but it's big time for the people involved. In COC people talk about the top clans, in ez, they talk about the strongest players, etc etc etc. in crime city it was fight club, then sas, etc. yes people do care, or they would not be here posting. If it dosnt interest you, just ignore it, no ones looking for respect for playing a game. A little recognition for a job well done would probably be appreciated from time to time, but too many here just wanting to cast a negative blanket over others. If someone came here and posted they had just reached 100 trillion, I'd say nice job, not who gives a flip. But that's just me, you're free to keep bashing all you want.

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Originally Posted by Speed ump

Please, your jealousy is showing. Every game , sport , or contest, has their top participants. Yes it's some sort of big deal to many people go play at the top like genen said. I've been in enough chats, rivals convos etc, to know that is indeed true. If it wasn't, then why all the efforts to beat sup, or beat the birds, or Kys, or whoever a particular team is trying to beat. Each team members congratulate themselves on a great performance when they win a direct battle against the ones the feel they are competing against. Maybe it's not a prime time event, but it's big time for the people involved. In COC people talk about the top clans, in ez, they talk about the strongest players, etc etc etc. in crime city it was fight club, then sas, etc. yes people do care, or they would not be here posting. If it dosnt interest you, just ignore it, no ones looking for respect for playing a game. A little recognition for a job well done would probably be appreciated from time to time, but too many here just wanting to cast a negative blanket over others. If someone came here and posted they had just reached 100 trillion, I'd say nice job, not who gives a flip. But that's just me, you're free to keep bashing all you want.

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I've just reached 100 trillion

Congrats hell. Nice job.

Dont believe it i want a ss :)

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Originally Posted by J-manKometh96

Funny that the only ones that care about this are the SUPpets.

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I laughed at this. Sometimes it happens. Oh, the irony.....

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Originally Posted by HellRaizer

I promise you the CMs did everything they could, but they had no position of power. Every issue that was raised they would bring to development or support. But, that was as far as they could go. They couldn't fix issues, they couldn't even get stuff prioritised. Yes they attended internal meetings about new features and releases. But they were never given timelines and the info they were given was no more than the basic details that CS got.. They didn't have access to support tools, or any sql skills. Their hands were tied.

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Make all the excuses you want. Every mod has been terrible since day 1. If this is not trained then it's in their culture. NO EXCUSES, DO YOUR JOB

"jealousy".... That's it? That's all the argument you've got isn't it. Pfffttt..... Ok dude, keep telling yourself whatever it takes to keep the wallet open to buy more of those third rate pixels. How jealous are the people in your real life acquaintances, or is the amount of spending you do on a phone game a guilty little secret?
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Let's review the facts. All it takes to get to the top of the tree in MW is an open cheque book. Skill? Don't make me laugh. Tap, Tap, Tap, Tap, Tap....... that takes about as much skill as a Bangladeshi sweat shop labourer, and at least they are trying hard so deserve some respect.
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You bought your way to the top of a phone game. Wow. I'm Impressed. Let me be the first to applaud your obvious stellar physical and mental prowess, overcoming all obstacles in the hard, dirty war you fight daily, battling all elements to get that credit card out faster than your opposition.........
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As if any of that deserves real respect. Pffttttt, please..... don't make me laugh.

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Originally Posted by Danger Mouse

"jealousy".... That's it? That's all the argument you've got isn't it. Pfffttt..... Ok dude, keep telling yourself whatever it takes to keep the wallet open to buy more of those third rate pixels. How jealous are the people in your real life acquaintances, or is the amount of spending you do on a phone game a guilty little secret?
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Let's review the facts. All it takes to get to the top of the tree in MW is an open cheque book. Skill? Don't make me laugh. Tap, Tap, Tap, Tap, Tap....... that takes about as much skill as a Bangladeshi sweat shop labourer, and at least they are trying hard so deserve some respect.
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You bought your way to the top of a phone game. Wow. I'm Impressed. Let me be the first to applaud your obvious stellar physical and mental prowess, overcoming all obstacles in the hard, dirty war you fight daily, battling all elements to get that credit card out faster than your opposition.........
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As if any of that deserves real respect. Pffttttt, please..... don't make me laugh.

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You are definitely jealous. No question about it.

I love how these threads always devolve into the same old boring cat fights between speedo, his little minions and the rest of the community. Come on guys, I'm only here for the entertainment, at least you lovebirds can offer up something more exciting. This is getting old. Step it up people, stop throwing limp-wristed jabs and flinging your poo around. I need more value for my time. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by MAD NUGGETT

You are definitely jealous. No question about it.

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Ok, you all win, you're heroes. I wait with baited breath for the ticker tape parade celebrating the way you bravely reached for that credit card and went above and beyond in your never ending quest for shinier pixels. Wow, I'm surprised I haven't seen the fall of the birds, carcasses laying strewn in the streets with SUP combatants posing victorious over the heaped bodies, on CNN. Such truly momentous achievements. I'm sure the luxury car dealership next to Gree HQ are singing your praises as we speak.

The pomposity over a phone game exhibited by certain deluded individuals would be truly hilarious if it wasn't for the tragedy of what that money could be spent on instead. Yep, yours to spend as you see fit. Just don't expect us to stand in awe of the choices you make on how to spend it is all.

Good GREEf. Please do not be so easily baited. I know it's hard, but it is possible to resist a rebuttal to the "envious" claim baiting. No need to lose your mind over it.

He sure is nugget, and trying to deny it with every breath. Thou dost protest too loudly my dear friend.

Nah, it's just a fatal flaw in my character that when I see over inflated egos full of hot air and very little substance I have an OCD moment and reach for the pin..... I know all I'm doing is giving them the validity they desperately crave, but as speedie says, sometimes you just can't sit back and let some BS go unanswered. At least on that we agree.

Besides, when a cartoonist draws absurd caricatures of those that deserve a pin prick to their hyperinflated self importance, it's not intended for the edification of the object of the ridicule.