Well Said SenorSwamp
There is no reason that the biggest spenders needed to see a difficulty increase of 10X in order to make it easier for new folks. This is simply fixed, just add a component of army strength to the attack calculation, say 500 per billion. Everyone wins. There is no need to disenfranchise your biggest spenders.
Originally, the way EB was setup, the difficulty was based on player level. This made mini's able to finish very easily without gems and pretty much impossible for L180+ (or whatever the cut off was) without massive spendings even with the stat inflation. Until now, I don't think Gree had found the right balance for EB. The time high level players all can kill L100 with 1, 2 free hits was most likely not foreseen. Maybe it was a side effect of trying to help out the weaker players so they may reach 70 or 80 kills and spend gems to get to 100.
My point is, the easy kills for high level players did not last more then 2 or 3 cycles and most likely was just an experiment for Gree. If they had it like that for say, 20 cycles then all of a sudden increase difficulty 10 fold, then yeah, I'd be pissed too.
This goes back to SenorSwamp's analogy. It would apply if EB was this like that since beginning. But it wasn't. I don't know how long you played but before a lot of these changes, RB for L180+ was very very difficult, even if you had god like stats. Each hit would take away pixels from the energy bar. It required massive amounts of spending to finish.
The analogy would only work if you were ALWAYS able to finish EB without spending. Or if it was a gradual increase in your max kills. (i.e. you were able to kill 48 in the beginning, then 52, then 56, then 60, then 64 and so on and so forth all the way to 100). But this isn't the case is it. It was impossible, then a little easier, then too easy, then we have now, mildly difficult.
You see where I'm going here? It wasn't gradually getting easier for you because your stats increased. It was all of a sudden too easy. Call it a failed experiment for Gree. And I do believe at this point, they are still experimenting. We may see it completely changed next cycle and make it impossible for me to get 100 kills but easier for you.
Sort of right , but not quite, it was based on your level over level 100 Boss was a lot harder over 150 harder again..not stats... the more you won at lower levels the more stats you gained but Boss didn't change strength till you hit those Levels, than all of a sudden it was different, kinda like a double double then triple triple..if you understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryosaeba
stats didn't make any impact except how hard you hit , it was your level that determined the Boss strength, that's why Mini's were introduced you could do Boss 100 easy where as if you were level 150+ same or close to stats, 3 times harder, that's why leveling was such a backwards step...that has all changed now , its just as hard at level 150+ to level 80 .... see the difference ?that in a nut shell is why minis were born and made such an impact , they got BIG stats quick and big acct got the dregs. so opposite to game play, the smaller level you were the easier it was to get the Big stat units, and vise versa, Big levels got diddley squat unless you spent copious amounts of gems.
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Originally Posted by Ratma2001
I finished EB under level 50, around 75, and over 100. The tax brackets, using the analogy, were graduated and consistent since the beginning. Later in life, again using the analogy, you would expect for long time business owners to experience prosperity (absent external market forces such as the city council/gree). Although the certainly not perfect, I think the analogy still does a good enough job telling the story.
Ryo-- I must ask you: why do you keep splitting hairs? The entire purpose of the narrative was to demonstrate that gree had other options that would have been far better. Why are you insisting on anchoring on a point that is effectively white noise?
Everyone has said EB could be harder for old timers. Everyone has also said new people need access. We have just said the chosen method of achieving those goals was atrocious. And the analogy was designed to illustrate there were rising tides that could have lifted all boats, rather than sinking one to raise another.
Agree
Ryo - do you really think this was the best solution? It seems strange anyone could say that...