What the heck is the player database?!

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Originally Posted by iteachem

Only rogues and the syndicates they have shared with had access..not sure who all had ability to go there

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Rogues doesn't maintain the database. You'll have to contact the guy who maintains it, I don't know how to get in touch with him, I haven't heard from him in ages.

I think everyone would want their data lol

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Originally Posted by Green Drake

Here you go. This was an email that Matt from rogues sent me this very morning concerning this. But don't worry even though he passed it out to 25 other syndicates or roughly 1500 hundred people who have no doubt modified te program to see who knows what, rogue no longer uses it. So you are safe.

"This has been covered in detail on the forums and I really don't want to spend time rehashing it, especially when you refuse to back up your claims on a former player of ours, but here's a quick summary. It's called data reading and it's the thing people do to find out information on new buildings, etc. When I was a member of SAS a player set up a system to detect cash and respect hackers doing this. He left SAS and joined us. He's no longer on our team and we don't use the software he created. It's the same stuff Mxz, members of fight club, etc use.

With that said, It doesn't require hacking into Gree's information - you just pull data off your phone. You can't use it to your advantage because it doesn't tell you enough info. You can't tell collection times. You couldn't possibly use it to help yourself in war. It was a tool a member made only to find cheaters and access was given to every leader in a top 25 room I created for banning cheaters and hackers. We don't use it anymore though."

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Unfortunately, I will need to call BS at a few points here.

The data is sent from the server to your phone. Your phone only displays some of it. The data can be captured with a network sniffer or an API, formatted and compiled into a database.

You could absolutely use it to check collection times, as follows:

I visit your hood at 8AM, 9AM, 10AM, etc. Each time I compile a copy of your cash on hand, collections, bank balance, etc. All I have to do is wait for the spike in "buildings collected" and see that you now have 100mm in your bank at 10AM, and I know your 24s come up due between 9AM and 10AM. Assuming an API can be used, it can even be automated.

Not useful in war? How about facing a team the first few hours on Friday and getting a view of the gold balance for the whole team. Then face them saturday, and sunday, and see how much gold they have left. Yes, a team can always buy more gold but with the bonus program and no ability to hide it there isn't much a team could do about it. This is ignoring the fact that a team could only try to be covert about their gold purchases if they knew other teams had this capability.

Should you try pushing Monday? It sure would be nice to know how much gold on hand the team in front of you has before you try, right?

So stop claiming that it can't be used to track collection times, or to benefit a team during a war. It absolutely can be. Whether or not Rogues ever used it for either purpose, I have no idea. So please don't take my post as an accusation that they did.

I hope everyone that admits to using this gets banned from both the game and forums, its cheating of the highest order and againt the ToS.

I bet you're the same people that say piracy isn't theft right?

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Originally Posted by Ben Weston

I hope everyone that admits to using this gets banned from both the game and forums, its cheating of the highest order and againt the ToS.

I bet you're the same people that say piracy isn't theft right?

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I doubt it will happen for a few reasons. But I do hope that Gree either puts the info out there for everyone to see, all the time, or finds a way to hide it going forward. There really is no other good solution.

well it must provide them some intel as if it didn't they would have shared it with everyone

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Originally Posted by montecore

I doubt it will happen for a few reasons. But I do hope that Gree either puts the info out there for everyone to see, all the time, or finds a way to hide it going forward. There really is no other good solution.

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not arguing, but the people involved should banned without question.

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Originally Posted by montecore

I doubt it will happen for a few reasons. But I do hope that Gree either puts the info out there for everyone to see, all the time, or finds a way to hide it going forward. There really is no other good solution.

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Hahaha. I just pictured countdown timers above everybody's building illustrating. What a feeding frenzy that would be.

This is actually cooooool .. whoever created the software, kudos :)
now you can go run a check on me and see how much i got from my zero iph :D

I know this has been reported to GREE months ago and the people posting others stats never got banned

Agreed the people using this should be banned. Banned I say...

Im sitting on the fence for this one.

A: Is it the people taking advantage of the system and having the know how? (I personally wouldnt want to be using it).

B: A problem that Gree needs to correct so this cant happen?

It is a clever tactic that may be a little bit under handed and abusing the game. No one should be playing around with the game data, collecting it, hacking it or anything from the stock standard game.

But is it a cheat? Someone has the ability to make a programme to read information without hacking the game. I believe Gree need to close this loop hole ASAP.

Its not like Gree is not making them a profit, with the amount of money people are spending. They should be able to fix this with the resources they have.

how is it not cheating? using software to skim info from the game about others which should be visible and using it to your advantage is cheating what ever way you look at it.

I would love to get this software and see what it can truly do.

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Originally Posted by Ben Weston

how is it not cheating? using software to skim info from the game about others which should be visible and using it to your advantage is cheating what ever way you look at it.

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Your argument is a good one. You may be making me lean towards your way of thinking.

I doubt Gree will be able to identify who uses these methods though as they arent changing the game data just reading it.
Gree need to tighten up their code around the information skiming.

Cheating or not it will be hard to catch them so they need to take control of the issue.

I dont like any form of cheating and believe anyone doing so should end up with a big banner on their profile labeling them as a cheat.
Name and shame!