[Tips & Tricks] How To, Questions & More

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Originally Posted by shootayad

Hey guys,

I'm level 39 and I'm a really weak player. I'm on level 14 on the current Epic Boss and I have no high level friends with my highest being 41. Can any high level people add me so I can beat the boss and craft the armour!

MY CODE IS XBD ZCC VDZ

Much Appreciated

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Friend stats are kind of capped by your own level and armor on your commander, so adding higher level friends won't help very much.
If clearing it in 2 runs with 2x 2 friends doesn't work, you'll just need to level your kinghts and your armors a bit more and try again next boss.
(I've friended my level 103 main account on my level 16(?) alt and there he hits the about level 8 boss for I think less than 200 points, while on my main that same knight hits the level 33 boss for something like 1300 (can't remember the exact numbers, but its a more than 5 times difference) . )

edit: and no, you don't want to craft and level the non-plus boss armor, since its stats will be worse than the bigger four's (not even much better than the big four) .
Instead invest that 200K gold into unlocking castle expansions and building level 2 training fields. That will improve you instead of set you back (which is what the resource sink of crafting and leveling a non-plus boss armor without enough material for the plus armor would do) .

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Originally Posted by Marco_

While the boss is still active, it's 11 gems instead of 30, so things like level 42 + 11 gems at the Summoning Stone is also possible to get to 101 materials (2x 50 and 1 spare).
Do not start crafting your second armor until you've leveled your first one to level 35, or you'll just make another non-plus, even if you level that first one in the mean time. It's the start of crafting that determines which type you craft. ;)


Bigger four as listed by someone else; materials found at Misty Marsh and further.
You don't "change", you "add". You'll probably still be using your big four in some way until you have 10+ maxed legenday/epic armors, even if it's just on the 3rd knight in your party when farming/fighting the epic boss.

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Thanks mate, guess I need to still level my big 4 as levelling the epic will be near impossible at my level.
What level were you when you could easy get the plus?

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Originally Posted by NinjaMaster

Thanks mate, guess I need to still level my big 4 as levelling the epic will be near impossible at my level.
What level were you when you could easy get the plus?

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My first level 43 was probably when I was somewhere in the level 95-100 range.
My first level 35 I guess was somewhere in the level 80-90 range.
The extra health and attack/defense from levels do really help in addition to having the right element armors maxed.
(I think I got upto about level 12 or 13 on this boss with just my commander in HH+)

Important things to hit 43 I guess:
- high enough level and the correct maxed armors
- enough good friends with the correct maxed armors
- correct management of epic energy timer, friend reset timer and boss trigger timer plus the ability to play when those align, so you can optimally use the energy and 7 x 10 friends over the week
- if you really want to be fanatic, the data from http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...ic-Boss-damage! calculated in a spreadsheet for your knights and friends vs the boss, so you can calculate which/how many knights and friends you need at each level to kill the boss without wasting epic energy. (too much effort for me (though not using it got me in the situation today of having to go back in for a second run with my commander at 3 epic energy expense to wipe the last 87 health from the boss. Picking other friends or adding a second follower would have saved me 2-3 epic energy.))

Thanks again for quick response mate.
I have tried to read all this thread but got bored on page 17 lol.
Also tried to work out the formula for the epic boss, too intense.......
I will just farm snakeskins and upgrade my big4 armor.
I do have some high level friends but non with the nem armor ATM which I think will help me a lot.
Have asked 4 to join that I found on leader board but still waiting.
Out of interest, can I use just snakeskin armor to upgrade all? Even if not same elements? As I have been using just my basics at the moment with sea form etc but takes time...

Thanks again for quick response mate.
I have tried to read all this thread but got bored on page 17 lol.
Also tried to work out the formula for the epic boss, too intense.......
I will just farm snakeskins and upgrade my big4 armor.
I do have some high level friends but non with the nem armor ATM which I think will help me a lot.
Have asked 4 to join that I found on leader board but still waiting.
Out of interest, can I use just snakeskin armor to upgrade all? Even if not same elements? As I have been using just my basics at the moment with sea form etc but takes time...

Just cannot believe lower levels with the plus versions beating me in the arena ..lol

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Originally Posted by NinjaMaster

Thanks again for quick response mate.
I have tried to read all this thread but got bored on page 17 lol.
Also tried to work out the formula for the epic boss, too intense.......
I will just farm snakeskins and upgrade my big4 armor.
I do have some high level friends but non with the nem armor ATM which I think will help me a lot.
Have asked 4 to join that I found on leader board but still waiting.
Out of interest, can I use just snakeskin armor to upgrade all? Even if not same elements? As I have been using just my basics at the moment with sea form etc but takes time...

Just cannot believe lower levels with the plus versions beating me in the arena ..lol

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Make sure you are leveling the + versions of the Big Four Armors.

And yes a lot of people here feed Snakeskins to armors that aren't Water or Earth to enhance.

I'm currently level 63, and looking for a way to level quickly. All I can find is about leveling armor quickly, I'm not asking about armor. How do I level my account quickly?

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Originally Posted by Marco_

People with worse armor having the same score/rank:
- possibly using up every drop of their arena energy all day (losses also give you points, so playing more == more points)
- could be that some of them buy extra arena energy (technically, you could probably win black medal with 1 knight wearing basic armor and only losses by spending thousands of dollars)
- doubledowns are only processed when collected (also for opponent selection), so they could have just now 8/8 doubledowned from 300+ points below your score.


The only kind of economical "enhancing enhancement material" done with those is uncommon_lvl11 (1 uncommon with 8 commons enhanced onto it). Enhancing onto Snakeskin just costs way too much gold for the little extra levels/EP it provides. (4 commons gets an uncommon to level 6, but they get a Snakeskin only to level 3)
Commons and uncommons are cost effective for the first few levels of a level 70 armor though, so if they're not in your way, keeping them for your next level 70 armor is useful.

Search the forum for the data sheet administration topic; there's a spreadsheet with lots of useful armor data there.


I've read a few reports of reducing number of friends to about 50 indeed cutting most of the lag.
I'm lucky to "only" have 2x 5 sec. lag at most at 128 friends...


At the top of the forum, I have a "Notifications" link inbetween my forum name and "My Profile".
Clicking that Notifications link gets me to my PMs with a menu on the left that includes setting signature.
(yes, it's not logical that that option isn't found under "My Profile"... :mad: )

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Yes, thats what Im saying storage is a problem, Im at 59/60 on storage and have three snake skins coming out in the next hour. Thats why Im asking what is the best way to get rid of lower level armors.

Im about to do level 35 epic boss where I will get 10 hydra armors and it will again shut down my armorys unless I find a way to get rid of the cheap armors. So, I should enhance the basics with each other? I dont know if I have all elements, just random ones from keys and just won one more from another key to get rid of fast. I also need to toss some of those stonescales too, and just asking what is the best way to get rid of armors without totally losing their value.

I feel bad getting rid of friends I have had since the game started who probably can use my help (Im over level 100) and they dont know its making my game lag, it feels so mean to be cutting my friends like this, since I know they are real people using my help on epic bosses. But I cant stand this lag.

I also have issues in the arena where my screen flickers and I have to jump out (flee) a battle that I am winning. I had this issue again this morning. I have several issues as you can see playing this game, though I love it so much.

Could use some help, hopefully others have this problem and could tell me how I can fix this.

First of all my iPod is the newest kind and it is updated with the most recent iOS (6.1.3)

But I am having trouble accessing my guild members page so I can edit their ranks, whenever I click on that tab, it takes too long, and after like 30 seconds without it ever going to the page it lags out of the app on me. Also these new guild wars, I have the same kind of problem with, whenever I click on the banner to go to guild wars it doesn't load and then lags out of the app after a few seconds.

Please help!

Ok, of the Big 4. I have 2 of the 4 (Atlantean Avenger and Hydra`s Hunter). And I`m still trying to get Crius (2 times failed now.. got Flowstone battlegear twice now.. 50k wasted :( . But I`ll keep trying. Can't go for Living Flame yet , until unlock the Spirit related Dungeon to make the Spirit basic or mono.

The question is: Once I have all 4 of the Big 4. Who do you all normally put them on? There are quite a few combination you can go with. ie: Water knight can have either the Atlantean Avenger or the Hydra`s Hunter. Or then there is yourself (the main).. who can wear any of the 4.

So which of the BIG 4 , do you usually put on the MAIN.. and of the other knights.. who normally gets what?

Thanks, Zanatar.

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Originally Posted by firefly333

So, I should enhance the basics with each other? I dont know if I have all elements, just random ones from keys and just won one more from another key to get rid of fast. I also need to toss some of those stonescales too, and just asking what is the best way to get rid of armors without totally losing their value.

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For best value, throw 4 basics/commons onto an uncommon (such as stonescale), element doesn't matter
or throw 8 basics/commons onto an uncommon where at least 5 are matching element.

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Originally Posted by Machdude

Could use some help, hopefully others have this problem and could tell me how I can fix this.

First of all my iPod is the newest kind and it is updated with the most recent iOS (6.1.3)

But I am having trouble accessing my guild members page so I can edit their ranks, whenever I click on that tab, it takes too long, and after like 30 seconds without it ever going to the page it lags out of the app on me. Also these new guild wars, I have the same kind of problem with, whenever I click on the banner to go to guild wars it doesn't load and then lags out of the app after a few seconds.

Please help!

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There's 2 or 3 topics on the forum about all of the guild war problems, half the people crashing etc.

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Originally Posted by Zanatar

So which of the BIG 4 , do you usually put on the MAIN.. and of the other knights.. who normally gets what?

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Each of the Followers has the exact same base health, attack and defense stats, so that's not a determining factor.
You check what armors you have in your inventory versus the elements of the location you're going to and try to get a set of 3 armors that's strong versus those and preferrably not weak. If you can achieve that with your Commander in the strongest armor, great! But sometimes he/she will have to give up the best armor to a follower for the good of the team. ;)
tl;dr location is leading on who should get what armors.

Any difference between torchflame mantle being listed as fire/spirit and living flame being listed as spirit/fire in battle context?

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Originally Posted by earthduster

Any difference between torchflame mantle being listed as fire/spirit and living flame being listed as spirit/fire in battle context?

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Nope, only thing that will change is the animation of your special attack.

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Originally Posted by Marco_

For best value, throw 4 basics/commons onto an uncommon (such as stonescale), element doesn't matter
or throw 8 basics/commons onto an uncommon where at least 5 are matching element.

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Is the idea, to then Enchance just 1 lvl 11 uncommon, into the armor of choice (ie: one of the big 4?). Or is the idea to get FOUR lvl 11 uncommon`s, to enchance in one shot? Does it matter if it`s just 1 lvl 11.. or is it better to have all 4 slots taken?

One that note..same question with the Basic`s. When enhancing, and your given a choice of filling all 4 slots, is there a bonus for doing all 4? Or is that just a time saver? Just to illustrate my question. (using fake numbers, as I dont`know the actual value.. ).. So lets say 1 basic earth is worth 2 EP towards your armor. If you put 2, or 3 or all 4.. Does it just add them up? ie: 1 basic is 2EP, 2 Basic is 4EP , 3 basic is 6 EP and 4 Basic is 8 EP.. ? Or does it give you some kind of bonus for doing all 4 ?

Curious, as sometimes I have say just 1 , 2, or 3 of a Basic. (not all 4.. and I dont`know if it actually does anything when I take the time to make sure I have 4 full basics before Enchancing.