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Originally Posted by Robodildo

Well for me currently I do 2 runs of Citadel on Honor with 5 knights on both runs, which nets me about 1/4 to 1/5 of my xp bar. That takes like 5 minutes and then I just wait until my health comes back and I do it again.

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If you really want to increase your leveling speed, don't use your friends with full HP knights. Use one friend with a low HP knight and clear the hardest stage you can(make sure you kill the boss!). I could go into specifics, but most people don't care about the details of exp/hp ratios :p.

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Originally Posted by Unresolved

If you really want to increase your leveling speed, don't use your friends with full HP knights. Use one friend with a low HP knight and clear the hardest stage you can(make sure you kill the boss!). I could go into specifics, but most people don't care about the details of exp/hp ratios :p.

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Haha yeah I know what you mean, I want to care but I sort of hate grinding to be honest. But if you were willing to do a quick overview of specifics that'd be great!

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Originally Posted by Robodildo

Haha yeah I know what you mean, I want to care but I sort of hate grinding to be honest. But if you were willing to do a quick overview of specifics that'd be great!

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Sure, I know what you mean. I leveled to 100 so quickly that I burnt out :(. I hate snakeskin farming with a vengeance and I can't bring myself to do it diligently anymore :(.

Most important concept for leveling is your experience/hp ratio for an entire stage(excluding crits/misses). A good benchmark that I found was that Writhing Cascades(normal) with Crius+ gave me around 25 exp/hp, the best ratio until you reach Haunted Citadel which is ever-so-slightly higher. If you find the average exp/hp ratio for different areas, you can use your knights in such a way that you maximize the experience you can gain in 2-3 hours(because hp is the limiting factor). Simply put, the best way to increase that ratio is to make sure that enemies are not hitting you super-effectively(provided you can one-shot the regular mobs). So always avoid areas where you're being hit effectively.

Because of this, you don't want to use friends with your full HP knights since your friends can only be used once each(so use is the limiting factor, not hp). Due to this, you will use your friends in an area that likely hits your knights very hard and gives bad exp/hp ratios. So to minimize this effect, you use friends with a 20-hp knight in a zone where you can kill the boss(as this is the single largest source of experience).

Damn, that got a bit wordy, but I don't know how to shorten it. Sorry :(

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Originally Posted by Unresolved

Sure, I know what you mean. I leveled to 100 so quickly that I burnt out :(. I hate snakeskin farming with a vengeance and I can't bring myself to do it diligently anymore :(.

Most important concept for leveling is your experience/hp ratio for an entire stage(excluding crits/misses). A good benchmark that I found was that Writhing Cascades(normal) with Crius+ gave me around 25 exp/hp, the best ratio until you reach Haunted Citadel which is ever-so-slightly higher. If you find the average exp/hp ratio for different areas, you can use your knights in such a way that you maximize the experience you can gain in 2-3 hours(because hp is the limiting factor). Simply put, the best way to increase that ratio is to make sure that enemies are not hitting you super-effectively(provided you can one-shot the regular mobs). So always avoid areas where you're being hit effectively.

Because of this, you don't want to use friends with your full HP knights since your friends can only be used once each(so use is the limiting factor, not hp). Due to this, you will use your friends in an area that likely hits your knights very hard and gives bad exp/hp ratios. So to minimize this effect, you use friends with a 20-hp knight in a zone where you can kill the boss(as this is the single biggest source of experience).

Damn, that got a bit wordy, but I don't know how to shorten it. Sorry :(

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Woah thats pretty intense! But cheers for that, I will definitely try and find the best ratios I can get. Thanks

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Originally Posted by ZERO_07

As you can see it takes less time to make the Level 11 Uncommons, but it takes more gold and yields less EP, not to mention its takes a lot more work on your part since you have to be constantly crafting, waiting, and enhancing.

Snakeskin is less expensive and yields more EP but takes longer to make, but I'd much rather just pop it in the armorsmith and be able to use that time to do other things. And even if the elements don't match it still gives 20 EP that a matching Lv 11 Uncommon would too.

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Well, there's also the fact that 1 Snakeskin takes at least 4 farm rounds, while Stonescale takes 1 1/3 farm rounds. And that all those shards collected from Snakeskin farming can be applied to Stonescale_lvl11 (5 common earth and 3 common water) . I think I did about 1:4 Stonescale:Snakeskin runs. It greatly helped me level Swamp+ and Infernal+ without using any fusion stones and with few 50 EP+ tournament winnings used. For DP+ I'll probably need some fusion stones, since the farm locations/elements are worse.

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Originally Posted by ZERO_07

As you can see it takes less time to make the Level 11 Uncommons, but it takes more gold and yields less EP, not to mention its takes a lot more work on your part since you have to be constantly crafting, waiting, and enhancing.

Snakeskin is less expensive and yields more EP but takes longer to make, but I'd much rather just pop it in the armorsmith and be able to use that time to do other things. And even if the elements don't match it still gives 20 EP that a matching Lv 11 Uncommon would too.

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Originally Posted by Marco_

Well, there's also the fact that 1 Snakeskin takes at least 4 farm rounds, while Stonescale takes 1 1/3 farm rounds. And that all those shards collected from Snakeskin farming can be applied to Stonescale_lvl11 (5 common earth and 3 common water) . I think I did about 1:4 Stonescale:Snakeskin runs. It greatly helped me level Swamp+ and Infernal+ without using any fusion stones and with few 50 EP+ tournament winnings used. For DP+ I'll probably need some fusion stones, since the farm locations/elements are worse.

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Thank you both for your answers. It looks like to me the combination of both technique is the best way for me. With 3 Lv2 smiths, I can create 3x lv11 Stonescale in about 70 minutes. This is about how long my playing sessions usually last anyway. At the end of play session, I start 3x snakeskin armours and leave the game. I can use the combinations of Stonescale+snakeskin to enhance at the beginning of my next session

Does anybody know what the little shields are for in your guild?

Hey all,

Been playing K&D for a couple of weeks, it's an addicting little game :)

I had a question regarding getting + versions of armor that is created via fusion. For instance, I've noticed that in the armor spreadsheet linked in the sticky thread above there is a Riverstone Mantle+ . It is my understanding that the Riverstone Mantel can only be created through fusing, so could someone tell me how the plus version is obtained? Thanks much.

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Originally Posted by Jstall

Hey all,

Been playing K&D for a couple of weeks, it's an addicting little game :)

I had a question regarding getting + versions of armor that is created via fusion. For instance, I've noticed that in the armor spreadsheet linked in the sticky thread above there is a Riverstone Mantle+ . It is my understanding that the Riverstone Mantel can only be created through fusing, so could someone tell me how the plus version is obtained? Thanks much.

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Only thru dark prince chests

What level runs would you guys suggest for me for leveling quickly?

I am currently Level 80 and my armors are in my sig, I also have Phyrus non-plus at 35 too

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Originally Posted by ZERO_07

What level runs would you guys suggest for me for leveling quickly?

I am currently Level 80 and my armors are in my sig, I also have Phyrus non-plus at 35 too

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I think it kinda depends how many runs you can do..
For me I kinda followed my quests and made sure I farmed enough mats for + versions of spectral, SS, rocs and now farming for chunks..
I can do 2 runs when my knights have full health and then I have still 1 knight left with full health for snakeskin farming..
Depending on how much time I have I can do about 1.5-2lvls per day + getting the mats I need for lvling armor.

I have enough mats for Swamp Shaman but I currently have Lvl 18 Swamp Shaman Robes currently. What level do I have to get them to for the + version?

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Originally Posted by Veloster Raptor

I have enough mats for Swamp Shaman but I currently have Lvl 18 Swamp Shaman Robes currently. What level do I have to get them to for the + version?

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get the normal version to lvl 20 to unlock the + version

I just got myself the regular Slimelord armor. It says it takes 200,000 and 3 days to craft. The 200k isn't a big problem, as I have 8 level 3 training fields now, but is it worthwhile crafting this sucker for me? I'm currently wearing a level 37 AA+, 32 Cruis+, 16 LF+, 7 HH regular, 18 Monk's Vestments and a level 10 Embersteel. I've just purchased the 1,000,000 expansion and in 23 hours I'm going to make 2 more Armorsmiths so that I have 4, so having one occupied for the next 3 days won't be so bad. I'm just wondering if it's worthwhile to invest the resources into the Slimelord or if I'd be much better just trying to raise the 3 of the big 4 that I already have so that I can open up the area with the mats for the HH. I definitely will not be getting to the level 43 version of the boss, as it took nearly everything I had to kill off the level 15 version!

If I shouldn't bother with the Slimelord armor, should I use it to enhance one of my current armors or save it for later? What would you say I should concentrate most on, improving the AA+ to 50 and then working on the others or try and bring the LF and Cruis up to the same level and then bring them all up to 50 at that time? Or something else entirely?

I know you guys answer various version of this exact question 100 times a day and I swear I do read the answers but it's still a bit confusing on what exactly I should do first in my own situation. I really thank any of you who still have the stamina to answer these questions!

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Originally Posted by Xaiadar

I just got myself the regular Slimelord armor. It says it takes 200,000 and 3 days to craft. The 200k isn't a big problem, as I have 8 level 3 training fields now, but is it worthwhile crafting this sucker for me? I'm currently wearing a level 37 AA+, 32 Cruis+, 16 LF+, 7 HH regular, 18 Monk's Vestments and a level 10 Embersteel. I've just purchased the 1,000,000 expansion and in 23 hours I'm going to make 2 more Armorsmiths so that I have 4, so having one occupied for the next 3 days won't be so bad. I'm just wondering if it's worthwhile to invest the resources into the Slimelord or if I'd be much better just trying to raise the 3 of the big 4 that I already have so that I can open up the area with the mats for the HH. I definitely will not be getting to the level 43 version of the boss, as it took nearly everything I had to kill off the level 15 version!

If I shouldn't bother with the Slimelord armor, should I use it to enhance one of my current armors or save it for later? What would you say I should concentrate most on, improving the AA+ to 50 and then working on the others or try and bring the LF and Cruis up to the same level and then bring them all up to 50 at that time? Or something else entirely?

I know you guys answer various version of this exact question 100 times a day and I swear I do read the answers but it's still a bit confusing on what exactly I should do first in my own situation. I really thank any of you who still have the stamina to answer these questions!

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If you can't craft the plus version of a legendary, don't bother making it. You're better off just finishing up the Big 4 and then moving onto Infernal/Swamp/Dark Prince. I would probably save Slimelord to try my hand at fusing a 4* when you get another legendary that is fusion-compatible. If you don't want to wait for that, just use it to enhance something I guess.