By the way Buster what are your ideas?...you never have posted any. Do you have any? I haven't seen a lot here that will make Gree more money. I see a lot of "it would be cool for me if I had this" type of ideas.
What idea do u have that keeps K and D going for he long haul?
I believe that as long as RR stands, there will be groups who try to come in and over take them, either by themselves or by partnering/merging with other guilds. As long as there is competition, the wars will make money, and since people seem to dislike RR for unknown reasons other than them being #1, and having some of the best players, and top spenders... there will ALWAYS be competition. If people finally stop fighting for first, they'll fight for second, and so on. That new person that starts the game tomorrow, when they see the first "Win Guild War, get Epic Prizes" news feed... they'll say "Gee, I want to be #1". Your 12 yr old crew of kids... if they didn't want to be #1, what is the point of being in a war and winning? Do they go in to lose? Sure, its fun for them, but they're doing it to win. People want to be winners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Spock
Money spent on next war? It seems other guilds keep upping their minimum gem requirements so they can try to take RR down. As far as how much, not sure how much they'll make in the next war, but I'm also not sure how much they made off the last war. Do YOU know? None of us do.
And as far as the post looking for more people, two mutually exclusive things. And trust me, it IS working well for us, since people have trying to get into RR since day 1. They aren't a casual guild where they take any random person just looking for fun. By looking for more people, it doesn't mean RR is dying either. People get bored with the game and leave, or simply don't want to spend as much money as it takes to be #1 anymore, or have personal reasons. All the people paying hand over fist to try and take down RR?... yeah, there sure is a shortage of people at the door.
The game isn't dying. If you re-read Eun's post, it was dealing with the communication between Gree and its playerbase, not that the game is literally dying.
I've never said we're the sole way Gree makes money, but thanks for thinking that.
I'm sure in my 500+ posts you could read through and some of the ideas I've thrown out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Spock
Much like the tiered "Win" prizes. You know, other prizes from guild wars based on wins. 0-10 get X, 11-20 get Y, 21-30 get Z. This is related to the win bonus and making wins count without having to just farm another guild to death for points. More to do with lower tier guilds than anything, but giving guilds another goal as opposed to just blowing their gems in one war and coasting the rest of the way. You know, something some of the small tier guilds could easily plunk down a few $s here and there for. At win #10 and only trailing your opponent by a few points but out of energy... why not toss in $2 worth of gems to buy enough energy to get to that next tier... do you see where that could potentially lead?
You do realize that is just natural progression right? Every new raid in a MMO increases the stats on the armors/gear/weapons. That is what keeps people playing, for that new piece of equipment.Quote:
Originally Posted by nmk329
It gets repetitive, but it won't end the game. They just need to find a way to bridge the gap so that the lower tier players think they have a reasonable chance of getting to the next level, thus keeping them playing while the high tier players continue to get the next best armors.
and the paragraphs continueeeeeeee
Its still enjoyable to read them c:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparkle_DPA
Buster I will never out spend nor out write u that is for sure:).. Your last paragraph is a good idea and easy to implement for Gree.
I think I will start tracking total points from the top hundred guilds in each war, adjust each for days, and then we can show relative spending each war. It would actually be interesting. A number of folks have done a decent job of figuring how much u guys are pending but relative points would work just a well.
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Originally Posted by Sparkle_DPA
Don't forget to research they're declare times in the math, to figure if they're using natural energy to supplement gemming. If they gem outright its a different formula than when they wait for energy to declare. Also factor a margin of error as almost no guild has every player on every hour of the war. Do it right and you can begin to get an inkling of what's being spent. It might be easier to use total wars instead of days btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Spock
And I support the original title of this thread, if gree listens. It's obvious the high level, guild war guilds and players want more content than the wallet war and weekly new boss +, especially if they have multiple epics, for them the game is basically broke. Fusion and chests offer nothing new or better unless its epic. Dpc is useless. Fusion is pointless beyond maxing your epics. The ltq was boring
And a grind, but tolerable for its beast keys. With more epics in the game fusion stone drops need
To be adjusted. And gree is alienating its biggest spender base. Once you have multiple epics, its pretty much game over. Without more content these players who might have been motivated to stay and keep investing are going to grow bored and leave in droves.
Agreed 100% here with u.... The wallet wars are insane... Spending $500 on a game is just ridiculous to me no matter what your salary is ... There are better and more important things to do with money... Wars are boring and have ruined this game... Something new needs to come out ASAPQuote:
Originally Posted by Paladineguru
Fusion Blitz Wars are a secret weapon for smart guilds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tachy
/yawn. This has been said before, many times over, in many similar games. They're all still going strong, with non-stop events and consistent stat improvements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Ash
Also, "better and more important things to do with money"... please don't start that again. Should we all sit around the campfire singing camp songs and saving for retirement? Plus, you're in Untouchables, right? If the thought of spending that much money is so ridiculous to you... why are you still there, and how many of your guild members are carrying you?
You pretty much nailed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by busteroaf
Please enlighten us, because at the moment it's simple a way to spend too much for a reward you can glean from 11 DPC's and waste gems that your guild could be using to score an epic.Quote:
Originally Posted by nmk329
who says you need to use a lot of gems? Im not sure if my guild used any, and we placed 20.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tachy
And that would be how many fusion boosts won?Quote:
Originally Posted by bosskiller
Just to help thread back on track...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyntree
The ability to buy a certain amount of gems for your friend.
If it's somebody's birthday or you just want to do something nice or whatever, you can buy a Gem Packet for your friend as a gift.
We spend hundreds of dollars on this game anyway so I guess helping your friend a bit with it wouldn't hurt too much.
I'm with Eun on this one. Let's get back on track with this thread. OP was talking about creating a sticky thread for suggestions. Now that we have a sticky thread for user added content, we can reduce the number of sticky threads by consolidating many into one. That opens space for a 'Suggestions Thread'. Lots of whining occurs on just about everything(clearly), but GREE does listen to us, if only occasionally. Just as clearly lots of smart people play this game, so lets give them the ideas we have to make the game better.
I, for one, really enjoy the game, but see that it could use a variety of improvements. These come at a variety of time and commitment costs from GREE. Some are easy (resetting the world map and increasing the difficulty). Some are hard (adding new castle expansion slots or new levels with bosses). Some are in the middle (new and varied potions, an EEpotion is my favorite suggestion at the moment).
If we're gonna hang with this game for the long haul, lets give GREE the ideas that will make the game better for us, and thereby better for them (we spend more Money).
Elita, give us the chance. Sticky a suggestions thread as posed by the infamous Eunuchorn.
+1 this thread if you agree, and lets get it back on topic
An "in development" box in game would go such a long way in user happiness, without actually having to implement anything.
I completely agree, but are there really any administrators who do stuff on here anymore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eunuchorn
11. For no gems, it is definitely worth it, really helped me level my armors.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathexe
Gree really needs 2 listen to your segustions u have some good ideas, +1. Only problem I see with the long term of this game is the rewards, legendary armors are officially useless which makes epics and fusion boosts the only rewards worth spending money on. People are already getting to the point where they have so many epics theres almost no point in them playing anymore. If gree wants this game to last they need better rewards they cant give out rewards that are worse than the free boss armors that was just given to the top 11-100 teams and expect they to keep playing and spending money.
I'm not sure they even think long term anymore. It seems they are just trying to create short term profit as quickly as possible. If they had long term goals, I think customer service would be a thing, and they would probably add substantial content every now and then to keep players interested. Since the advent of guilds and guild wars, they haven't added anything significant.
One of the best updates was guilds. Making it a team game increased its fun 10 fold.
PLEASE add more group related ltqs that we can work and plan as a guild. Making people work together for a single purpose does a lot. Fun inside game, fun out side coordinating and planning. And feel it would be a great addition that many would enjoy!! (P.s. make the rewards actually use able(fusion stones, boosts, a lot of gold for the guild bank, free strong guardians, Anything but useless armour..)
Guild improvements please.
Adding content beyond wars to expand the function of the guilds in the game would be my vote for the best thing that GREE could do. Guild Skirmishes, calling out another guild for a 'free' battle, in that there would be no or very small rewards, would be cool. Or team battles with members of the same guild facing off against each other would be cool. Maybe the guild somehow teaming up against the epic boss...
lots of options, but the guild aspect of the game is the only thing that keeps me playing, and the same old same old will begin to drag after a while. Shake it up!
Hey Everyone!
I am just now seeing this thread. I will make a new thread here later today or tomorrow for your suggestions along with some guidelines.
Happy Halloween!
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Glad to know that you are reading our suggestions and that you'll be making a thread for them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elita
Happy Hallowheen to you too =)
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