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Well, I could show you the screenshot, but it looks exactly the same as the screenshot I had 3 weeks ago when I fused my own Moontide. I only posted because you guys were arguing over credibility and I don't remember doing anything to hurt my own reputation around these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by busteroaf
I would agree with this..sure am seeing a lot of beast masters already...I wonder if these r being fused...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eunuchorn
They just gave out hundreds of thousands of free beast keys. Of course you're seeing a lot of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Spock
So rather than considering the merits of people's arguments, you judge them by post count?Quote:
Originally Posted by busteroaf
I think that says a lot about you.
You really should read in context. Buster was referring to people posting about fusing results, not about game discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synovia
Thats impossible! Accordingly to the whiners, the keys are crap. Are you saying the whiners are liars or they are really whiners?Quote:
Originally Posted by Synovia
No one in my guild got any epics from the beast keys. Somewhere around a couple hundred keys including some guys that bought chests..Quote:
Originally Posted by Synovia
And there were atleast 10 that I know of so far in my guild.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Spock
We've had guys open 11 chests and get nothing but 2 stars. We've had guys open 11 and get more than 1 epic. I got Techtonic, 3 4-stars, and 2 3-stars on 11 chests. It's random. That being said, we've got 38 guild members, most of whom ended up with 15 free keys already, and have another 7 coming.
Random doesn't mean that every guild is going to get a bunch. Random means that most likely you're going to end up with guilds that don't do well, and guilds that get more than their fair share. Thats life.
That's great for u. Congrats to ur guild..for all their luck..what I noticed was that everyone who had the beast master had other epics as well. Around lvl 400 in arena anyway...I was thinking maybe fusing was helping but I guess everyone must be buying chests as well....Quote:
Originally Posted by Synovia
The non-gem spenders have a very small chance to get the beast master even with the max. amount of free chests. So a lot of the beast masters ingame right now are from gem spenders. Gemspenders can open a lot of chests so often will also get other epics before the one they really want. So it makes sense that most people with the beast master also have other epics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Spock
Fused Leviathan + Soulhard to try this. Got a bone harvester's harb.
Then: Bone + trollforge = Battlesuit
I don't complain about the epic fusioning as much as others, since it was insanely easy to fusion something that should be pretty hard to achieve but spending money on this game isn't really an option either. Gree are so greedy, and are such a cash milking company its very hard to support.
Seeing people spend hundreds and get nothing is incredibly sad
Have you never played the lottery?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryanv2
Haven't seen one post here or other K&D boards that mentions anyone fusing a Tec or Blaze post-update. Sure would be good to know.
Pretty confident Moontide is fusable now. If the other Epics aren't fusable now, I'm betting some will be soon. My assumption is Tec and Blaze because they were fusable before. Cloud, Mael, Forge and Beast were all chest or GW only (right?).
Yes it is legit. First I fused a moontide with featherblade and it resulted in etheral garnment. I then fused the etheral garnment with leviathan and I got moontide back.Quote:
Originally Posted by busteroaf
I think Tec and Blaze were "chest only" before they were fusable. I'd bet Mael and Beast end up fusable, probably not real soon though. Cloud and Forge I bet dont, or if they do, its significantly later.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pale Rider
This isn't necessarily true. Yes, an individual gem spender has a better chance than an individual non-spender. But there are orders of magnitude more people opening free chests than there are people buying gems to get them.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenwing
22 free keys were available to pretty much every player with some time and the bigger 4+ armors. A ton of players completed these.
Tect and blaze were both fusable when they debuted in chests. I don't believe Moontide was when it first came out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synovia
Moon became fusable when Blaze was released. At least that's from what I remember because no one reported Moon being fusable before I first reported Blaze being fusable, hence epics being fusable.
I think you're right. I don't recall any moontides being fused until Blaze came out. Then fusion became the "in thing".Quote:
Originally Posted by -Solo-
And the chance to get epic on one key is 2 %. Its not that bad considering the amount of keys people have. The Beastmaster epic has twice the chance as the other epics. Of course the + versions have very low probabilities, they are like 0,022 % or 0,045 % for the Beastmaster. So if you want those you will have to be lucky or spend a lot of gems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synovia
Ok guildmate fused armored bear and chitinous got Moontide.
I'm too new to be trusted or even post screenshots so take this info for what it's worth.
Good luck and happy fusing.
Took a leap of faith and Fused lvl 34 chitinous with lvl 1 ethereal garment. Moontide is fusable. Alot of tards on the forums are gonna try and troll up the place.
first I want to say moonlight is now a waste of time. if u can get the current plus boss armor maxed lvl it will save u money and time and u have an armor that's almost as strong as moontide that being said. I have a combustion armor should I do anything with it? got it from chest
I'm not a big fan of moontide, but its a lot better than the current boss armor. They're both split element, and Moontide has a 200 stat advantage. 200 points is the different between a lot of the boss armors and their + version, and people think its worth leveling those.Quote:
Originally Posted by shawnk
Moontide probably has similar value as Bear+. Its got 200 points of stats, but is split element instead of stacked, and takes more $$ to level (although not as much as you'd think, because you have to level Bear to 35 to get bear+)
Personally got Keeper's armor off the list. Guy in our guild got Guardians with mixing trollforge and ice lich.
the thing about moonlight I don't like its its falling apart by the time u can get it to lvl 99 the next boss armor after this one will be close to surpassing it and its easy to get them to lvl 35 and then craft the plus and lvling. I have actually stopped upgrading armors I got 3 epic boss pluses and just got a real epic armor the maelstrom and Im going to focus on that I guess I will keep the combustion just for fun now. I thought it was one of the good armors to fuse that gave good results thnx guysQuote:
Originally Posted by Synovia
guardians is cute but just weak for me right now unless its the plus which we cant fuse :) its a shame I really like it. ty though <3Quote:
Originally Posted by MrRiver
If Gree follows the pattern they've been using, Epic Boss armors will catch Moontide in about 4 or 5 months. Not anytime near to "next boss". We had basically 80 points of inflation between Jian+ and Aegis of the Fallen. Then a 200 point jump to the monos and Bear. It'll be a while before boss armors catch Moontide, and a whole lot longer before they're better than it.Quote:
Originally Posted by shawnk
if its that long I might go for it. I thought one month would destroy it. thnx for this. maybe I will start fusing to get one although im happy with maelstrom and it takes priority and I got to say that thing lvls slow. in 2 days I only got it to lvl 46 and its better than the plus big 4 armors but still not good enough to get into my 3. with the fusion stones I have about 20 I think I can take it to lvl 60-70 by the end of next week maybe then I will start taking risks. I can make 3 prince 3 shaman and 2 roc. I have to study for my dat so I cant really farm I just farm the epic boss twice so it might take longer (six times a day at least) twice everytime my energy fills. bad thing is the one start armors it produces are expensive unlike the snake. taking the armor to lvl 99 is going to take some good amount of gold and I make plenty with my training fields but still its going to be a hell :) if u know what I mean <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Synovia
There may be a 200 point stat difference between Moontide and current boss+ armors; but there is also a several million increase in gold to level it.
Unless I already have 3 recent boss+ armors levelled, I would not level a moontide even if it was given to me for free.
I agree my clan can use that to lvl elements :) that's why im not going to go for it. what u missed it also takes time a lot of time that can be used for better things :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gnolaum
The only good post in this thread. It's so entertaining to listen to people complain about the odds, and how greedy "GREEED" is. They're not greedy at all, they made a game to make money and they're trying to make the most possible. If they can entice all of those suckers who spend $ (yeah I'm one of them) then more power to them. It's business and it appears to be working well for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickkyDC
On Sep 22 03:52 I wrote a ticket to GREE:
Hello,
I'd like to get an answer to the question that's on everyone's lips - is epic armor fusing still possible? Rumour has it that you've removed that option (quietly - shame on you) with the recent update and the Beast Brawl 1 was just a smokescreen to give you more time to implement the update. It's high time to officially confirm or deny this - I don't want to play a rigged game and I'm sure many others don't want to waste their time on it either. Removing the one option that made this game close to "fair" (let's be honest - the credit card warriors will always be better than the regular players) is NOT how you convince players to buy gems. That's how you lose the playerbase (regular players quit --> there is no one to compete with --> credit card warriors quit).
Hope you didn't do what I think you've done
James
In response they wrote this back to me:
October 02, 2013 16:12
Hi,
It was rebalanced and reworked.
I **** you not. Initially I wanted to punch a hole through the screen, then I smoked a cigarette and wrote another ticket. I'd suggest bombarding them with tickets, they have to give an honest answer at one point.
The image of the ticket (with additional comments) here:
http://s24.postimg.org/cwirdyujl/ticket.jpg
Nice to know it's was back thankQuote:
Originally Posted by Zihuantaneyo
All your base are belong to us!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Of The Infernal
Combine vs Enhance. Terminology issues at play again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tachycardia
I just wanna know if fusing infernal and dark prince gets u moontide :(
You can't fuse eternal and dark prince. The both have fire. Also you would need one armor to have spirit or water, and the other armor to have the other one.Quote:
Originally Posted by cloud strife
They can't have the same element to fuse. It takes one element from one side, and one element from the other side, and you get a result based on those. So you would need, for example, roc feather on one side to cover spirit, and swamp shaman on the other to cover water.
Do you really need this spelled out for you? My letter (and the response I got) proves nothing. "Rebalanced and reworked" can mean a million things - they're deliberately dodging a straightforward question here.
How does that work for you?
We've rebalanced and reworked the issue - a player can no longer fuse epic armors, but the chances of getting them from chests have been increased.
How about this one?
We've rebalanced and reworked the issue - the chances of obtaining an epic through fusion have been decreased to 0.00000001%
See how it can mean anything you want yet? That's why a call for tickets, lots and lots of tickets, is the only sound idea I can think of - we play a game we know nothing about, half of it is speculation. I for one have submitted a ticket right after getting this joke of a response - I won't stop until I receive an honest answer as to HOW exactly was it rebalanced and reworked (is it possible? which epics are obtainable through fusion [if any]? what is the chance of obtaining them? were some epics removed from fusion altogether [like tectonic]? etc.).
Any discussion about the issue without an honest response from GREE is pointless - you say this, I say that, my word against yours, believe what you want, try it out yourself out of curiosity and impatience, lose the legendary armors you've been holding onto and come back to cry about it on the forum / actually get an epic and don't say a thing (I'm ahead and you're all behind for not knowing what I know [and let's keep it that way]). See where that gets us?
Write a ticket to GREE, they're reluctant to answer, so you'll probably get a response after 10 days. Bombard them with tickets, so that they realise the only way to get out of this mess is to face the music and admit what they've done.
Just an idea.
Oh :p right i didnt notice that earlier ...thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by EljayK