FAQ Breakdown - Frequently Asked Questions by the beginners

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Originally Posted by 600RR

The comprehensive chart may be seen in the spreadsheet):

L61: 74,000
L66: 84,000
L69: 90,000

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Correction for your guide...

L66 is 88,000
L69 is 100,000

I corrected the Data Sheet 2 weeks ago when I noticed the error. From L64 to L69, each level increases by 4,000 per 4 slots.


Also, in the "What is a + armour" section, you could add this:

Level 30 armors require enhancement to level 10 to unlock +
Level 50 armors require enhancement to Level 15 to unlock +
Level 70 armors (story/non epic) require enhancement to Level 25 to unlock +
Level 70 armors (epic/boss) require enhancement to Level 35 to unlock +

I have 60 gems no idea what to do with them, from what I've seen the Chests have too low of percentage rate, but I don't know what to do

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Originally Posted by BobSaget

I have 60 gems no idea what to do with them, from what I've seen the Chests have too low of percentage rate, but I don't know what to do

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Save them to upgrade your training fields.

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Originally Posted by BobSaget

I have 60 gems no idea what to do with them, from what I've seen the Chests have too low of percentage rate, but I don't know what to do

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Use them to upgrade training fields to level 3. You will need the gold income.

I now have 2 types of nemesis armor I'm not sure if I should enhance the new one with the old one or combine the two and see what I get any suggestion

"you know what you get when you combine two nemesis armors? a free armor slot" -eunichorn

they are worth 25 ep each. you are likely to get 24 or 50 ep for whatever it is you fuse. You will not wear what ever it is you fuse.

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Originally Posted by overcire

they are worth 25 ep each. you are likely to get 24 or 50 ep for whatever it is you fuse. You will not wear what ever it is you fuse.

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So Nemesis is 1 more EP than a craftable Rare? I guess that should be added to the spreadsheet on the Armor Leveling tab...

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Originally Posted by Marco_

So Nemesis is 1 more EP than a craftable Rare? I guess that should be added to the spreadsheet on the Armor Leveling tab...

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Added Nemesis to the Armor Leveling.

I've got a quick question that I've been looking for the answer to on here but can't seem to find. When I'm recruiting friends for something, which armor are they wearing? Is it grouped by type, say if I'm recruiting for the big weekly boss then my friends will be wearing the armor they're wearing currently in that setup? Or is it just one specific armor, say from the PVP?

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Originally Posted by theeggman85

I've got a quick question that I've been looking for the answer to on here but can't seem to find. When I'm recruiting friends for something, which armor are they wearing? Is it grouped by type, say if I'm recruiting for the big weekly boss then my friends will be wearing the armor they're wearing currently in that setup? Or is it just one specific armor, say from the PVP?

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When using friends for Epic boss, they're wearing their epic boss setup armor. When using them on adventure AKA normal stages, they'll be wearing the armor they have on in the normal stage setup.

Hey guys,

I'm currently level 56 (android). Very active. Help give me some direction here:

1. I just unlocked the misty march
2. I currently have all the (+) versions of the big four (HH/Crius/AA/LF)
3. All the big four are roughly level 30 each
4. I have bought the 500k expansion and I'm currently saving for the 1mil expansion (700k at the moment)
5. I have all training fields level 2, 17 gems at the moment saving up for lvl 3 training grounds

Just need some direction on where I should go. thanks everyone!

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Originally Posted by Rended

Hey guys,

I'm currently level 56 (android). Very active. Help give me some direction here:

1. I just unlocked the misty march
2. I currently have all the (+) versions of the big four (HH/Crius/AA/LF)
3. All the big four are roughly level 30 each
4. I have bought the 500k expansion and I'm currently saving for the 1mil expansion (700k at the moment)
5. I have all training fields level 2, 17 gems at the moment saving up for lvl 3 training grounds

Just need some direction on where I should go. thanks everyone!

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It's tough saving up for those expansions, but the best thing to do is really to save all your gold to get that, and not spend any on further armor levelling until you've got that one and the next (2 million). Put up training grounds as soon as you can on the new expansions.

Gold is ultimately THE limiting factor. I've just levelled my 2nd legendary armor to 70, and the last 2-3 levels took a day each, using fusion stones to make 50ep armor so I was doing it as cheaply as possible. I have 11 level 3 training grounds, but lack of gold was still what held me back.

Of course it's very boring waiting, so keep stockpiling materials while you do - snakeskin and the commons, while collecting basic shards as you can along the way. You will run out of materials very quickly once you have the money to craft and fuse.

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Originally Posted by Musketeer

It's tough saving up for those expansions, but the best thing to do is really to save all your gold to get that, and not spend any on further armor levelling until you've got that one and the next (2 million). Put up training grounds as soon as you can on the new expansions.

Gold is ultimately THE limiting factor. I've just levelled my 2nd legendary armor to 70, and the last 2-3 levels took a day each, using fusion stones to make 50ep armor so I was doing it as cheaply as possible. I have 11 level 3 training grounds, but lack of gold was still what held me back.

Of course it's very boring waiting, so keep stockpiling materials while you do - snakeskin and the commons, while collecting basic shards as you can along the way. You will run out of materials very quickly once you have the money to craft and fuse.

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Thanks for the informative response. I have two quick questions from that:

1. How in the world did you save up 200+ gems?
2. You think I should not progress and just stay back and farm materials?

Thanks!

Yea I'm also around the same point in the game and would like to know what to do as well.

Level 59
Epic Stage at Zephyr Plateau
Unlocked the + version of all the Big Four
They're at HH+(36) CA+(35) LF+(10) AA+(1)
Also just bought the 500K Expansion
Have five Lv.3 training Grounds and three Lv 2.

Do I just save up for the next expansion? I was hoping to get to Level 60, get to Haunted Citadel, continue to level my Hydra for next week's boss and the Citadel, or should I just wait?

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Originally Posted by Rended

Thanks for the informative response. I have two quick questions from that:

1. How in the world did you save up 200+ gems?
2. You think I should not progress and just stay back and farm materials?

Thanks!

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1. I bought them, mostly. I got impatient.
2. I'll answer you and Zero_07 together on that.

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Originally Posted by ZERO_07

Yea I'm also around the same point in the game and would like to know what to do as well.

Level 59
Epic Stage at Zephyr Plateau
Unlocked the + version of all the Big Four
They're at HH+(36) CA+(35) LF+(10) AA+(1)
Also just bought the 500K Expansion
Have five Lv.3 training Grounds and three Lv 2.

Do I just save up for the next expansion? I was hoping to get to Level 60, get to Haunted Citadel, continue to level my Hydra for next week's boss and the Citadel, or should I just wait?

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Like I assume you guys are doing, I fought every Epic Boss from the first week I started playing. I beat level 15 on my second Boss, and levelled the armor to 35, when I discovered there was a +version, and I didn't have the materials for it.

I hadn't read this Forum.

Every Epic Boss armor I earned after the first and before I was able to craft the + version, has been an almost* total waste of time and effort. I'd have been better off building my castle gold-producing base, and grinding for basic crafting materials.


I also battled along through the Quests, spending gold and materials levelling several not very good armors, including the Steam Wizard, Snakeskin, and Monk's Vestment's. I reached level 100 in 10 weeks.


Whatever combination of elements the Epic Boss has, it will eventually be repeated and bettered, so it's generally not worth crafting the non+ version if you can't get the +version too.

If I had been more patient, waiting for my Gold to build up, opening the expansions, and building training fields, I'd have had millions more gold to play with in the following weeks.

I've got a few more questions along these lines, since I'm actually in the same place as these two guys at lvl 62ish(How convenient!)

• First of all, are the higher rarity armors always going to be better than the ones of the same elements but lower rarity? For example, I had LF armor and found the dark prince's which was way better. For each level of the dark prince's armor, is an LF+ armor at that level always strictly better? I'm a little confused on whether or not to give up my + versions of lower rarity to go with these more rare sets.
• By the logic above, the best sets in the game are then from the Epic Bosses?
• I'm a little confused about what you said in your last post with getting resources for the Epic armor sets. To craft the + version you need to get the normal version to level 35 or something right? So are you saying you wish you had used your money to build training fields first as an investment in the future? I just built my first epic armor set and I'm unsure where to go from here, I know eventually you have to level it up, but it sounded like from what you said you regretted actually building the non-plus version.
• Along those same lines, once you get an epic armor and level it past your old armor of those elements, it will be strictly better and you should always use that epic armor, is that right? So get rid of the old 1-3 star armor? That ties in with my first question I guess.

Thanks for the help!

I would prefer lower rarity high stats armour: stats are all that matters and rarity just means it costs more gold and more EP. One level on an armour will tell you how good it will be maxed, as every armour level gives the same amount of att and def, and armours have a level cap. Or you can use the spreadsheet. But try to figure out how it works.

This game, naturally, has a very linear stat progression on armours. Older armours are worse so that people will keep on buying DPC's and fighting epic bosses. New legionaries are the strongest and rarest items in the game, with a few anomalies.

However few armours grow at a rate of +20 (or more) stats per level. Everyone else is looking for good armour. You can assume that they have looked longer/harder than you if you just started researching. Lo and behold, the story line rare armours have some of the best growth around, partially because you can easily craft + versions of them.

You will always be fielding three knights. So Eventhough my Living flame is out shadowed by my pyromancers for this boss, both are getting some action. Would I level up another pyro+ for this boss to put on a squire? No. Too much gold / time to invest in a character with poor health. Would I consider another LF+? Yes, if Mantle of the beast + were not equivalent.

Invest in cheap and good armours. But first invest in your city. Learn from the lannisters: gold wins

So you would level up the 1-gold star armors all the way first then?

Also I'm confused about the stats-per-level thing. Did you mean that for a given armor, each level up will give the same amount of attack and defense as the previous level up, say +5 atk and +5 def, but higher rarity armors will have a higher amount-per-level, like maybe +8 atk and +8 def per level up?

I guess this is a harder question to answer, but is it usually good to max out all your storyline single-star armors to lvl 50 before upgrading the legendaries? I'm unsure of when the best time is to make the change over to the bigger but better investments in the 4-star armors. Or should I just finish the big 4 to lvl 50 and then move on to legendaries when I can?

nah stats per level are gear dependant, not rarity dependant. Every level grows by the same amount. Just go look at the spread sheet.

Storyline armour's (+ variety) grow by more per level and cost less per level than legendary armours. It is for that reason that it is every ones opinion here that you should have the big four story line armours finished before chasing after legendaries.

I miss the pace of the game back when I was getting stronger with every 10k gold invested. I haven't grown truly 'stronger' since I maxed my Jians+, just more agile.

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Originally Posted by theeggman85

I guess this is a harder question to answer, but is it usually good to max out all your storyline single-star armors to lvl 50 before upgrading the legendaries? I'm unsure of when the best time is to make the change over to the bigger but better investments in the 4-star armors. Or should I just finish the big 4 to lvl 50 and then move on to legendaries when I can?

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Skip the Snakeskin and Chimera Corps -- they have inferior stats. The other four are known as the "big four" because they give you the best stats at the cheapest cost. It's best to max those before working on legendaries unless there's a specific armor you want to use to fight the epic boss in a particular week.

(At this point in your game, you don't want the armors from the epic boss, but it's very much worth fighting for the other goodies you get as prizes along the way!)

I think it's coming together now, thanks for the help guys! One more question about the spreadsheet, I see some + versions of uncraftable armor. How does that work, just luck of the draw from dark prince's chest or something?

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Originally Posted by theeggman85

I think it's coming together now, thanks for the help guys! One more question about the spreadsheet, I see some + versions of uncraftable armor. How does that work, just luck of the draw from dark prince's chest or something?

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yes, dpc only.

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Originally Posted by theeggman85

I've got a few more questions along these lines, since I'm actually in the same place as these two guys at lvl 62ish(How convenient!)

• First of all, are the higher rarity armors always going to be better than the ones of the same elements but lower rarity? For example, I had LF armor and found the dark prince's which was way better. For each level of the dark prince's armor, is an LF+ armor at that level always strictly better? I'm a little confused on whether or not to give up my + versions of lower rarity to go with these more rare sets.
• By the logic above, the best sets in the game are then from the Epic Bosses?
• I'm a little confused about what you said in your last post with getting resources for the Epic armor sets. To craft the + version you need to get the normal version to level 35 or something right? So are you saying you wish you had used your money to build training fields first as an investment in the future? I just built my first epic armor set and I'm unsure where to go from here, I know eventually you have to level it up, but it sounded like from what you said you regretted actually building the non-plus version.
• Along those same lines, once you get an epic armor and level it past your old armor of those elements, it will be strictly better and you should always use that epic armor, is that right? So get rid of the old 1-3 star armor? That ties in with my first question I guess.

Thanks for the help!

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Originally Posted by theeggman85

So are you saying you wish you had used your money to build training fields first as an investment in the future?

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Yes.

My first Epic Boss armor was Tortoiseshell Aegis. Once I got it to level 35 I opened up the ability to craft a decent set, but didn't have the materials (and didn't want to pay a ton of gems to get them). Tortoiseshell has the same elements as Crius. In my innocence I thought therefore I should continue to level the Tortoiseshell instead of Crius+.

Crius+ at level 50 has the stats 696/794. Tortoiseshell regular at level 44 (which is as far as I got it) has the stats 508/793. Almost identical defence, much weaker attack.

It costs 1540 enhancement points to get the Crius+ to level 50, and 291 to get the original Crius to level 15 to open up the + version. Total 1631.

It cost 2395 enhancement points to get the Tortoiseshell Aegis to level 44. So I used a ton more materials to have a weaker set of armor. I could have gone on developing the Tortoiseshell to level 70, using a ton more materials, and eventually it would have been better than the Crius+.

Against the recent Epic Dragon Boreas the best elements to use were Earth/Air - Crius+ and Tortoiseshell Aegis. Ho hum, I hadn't levelled a Crius+ past about 30 because I had been intent on levelling the Tortoiseshell. I rapidly pushed my Crius+ to level 50, and even started a second set so I could field 3 knights in the best armor.

I managed to beat Boreas to level 43, mainly thanks to powerful friends. If I'd had 3 sets of Crius+ it would have been much easier, and cheaper to level 3 sets to 50 than one set of Tortoiseshell to 70.

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Originally Posted by theeggman85

Along those same lines, once you get an epic armor and level it past your old armor of those elements, it will be strictly better and you should always use that epic armor, is that right?

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It'll be the armour yor main knight wears for Epic Bosses of the right elements, and possibly in the Arena.

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Originally Posted by theeggman85

So get rid of the old 1-3 star armor? That ties in with my first question I guess.

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Yes, as long as you don't need it any more.

There are ten element combinations (not counting single element armors). You have three knights to equip. Ideally you'll have 3 sets of each element combination in your arsenal, all maxed out and ready for any Epic Boss that comes along. As you gain better armors by beating the Epic Boss, you replace your weaker armors with the new ones.

hey musket, there are no holes left in your arsenal if you only have the five elements-touching armours. Develop those first, before you get any elements-separate ones. five legendary's are cheaper than 10 :)

(spirit/fire is equivalent to earth/fire when vs air/psychic in my books, for example)

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Originally Posted by overcire

hey musket, there are no holes left in your arsenal if you only have the five elements-touching armours. Develop those first, before you get any elements-separate ones. five legendary's are cheaper than 10 :)

(spirit/fire is equivalent to earth/fire when vs air/psychic in my books, for example)

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I know. Can't always get the bosses though. Touching elements are more vulnerable in the Arena.

Thanks again for the help guys, I'm now confused about what direction I should take. I have three armors that are 2-3 stars, and off the assumption that they were better i ditched the 1-star counterparts in favor of these. They are now at level 15-23, at varying places in that range. One of them (dark princes) replaced one of the big 4.

Should I scrap my progress on all of these armors to go back to the 1-stars, since they are cheaper to upgrade? Or should I just keep going with these armors? Or maybe just scrap dark prince's (right now at lvl 23) to go back to LF and make sure my big 4 are at level 50, and then keep the other two 2-3 star armors?

Also on that armor spreadsheet, the upgrade points needed for each level up are not listed. Are those all the same at each tier of rarity, so for example, all 2-star armors have the same points needed to get from lvl 25 to 26?

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Originally Posted by theeggman85

Thanks again for the help guys, I'm now confused about what direction I should take. I have three armors that are 2-3 stars, and off the assumption that they were better i ditched the 1-star counterparts in favor of these. They are now at level 15-23, at varying places in that range. One of them (dark princes) replaced one of the big 4.

Should I scrap my progress on all of these armors to go back to the 1-stars, since they are cheaper to upgrade? Or should I just keep going with these armors? Or maybe just scrap dark prince's (right now at lvl 23) to go back to LF and make sure my big 4 are at level 50, and then keep the other two 2-3 star armors?

Also on that armor spreadsheet, the upgrade points needed for each level up are not listed. Are those all the same at each tier of rarity, so for example, all 2-star armors have the same points needed to get from lvl 25 to 26?

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Two star armors are, unless you have a + version, not worth developing. Go back to the Big Four, they are better.

Dark Prince's is fine, if you raise it to lvl35 to open up the +version, then gather the materials to build the +version. The way the Dark Prince drops crappy feathers instead of evil jewels, that's a task-and-a-half of full cream milk.

Getting yourself one or two sets of the Big Four is going to be a lot cheaper and easier than trying to level any armor to 70.

There's a reason people keep recommending getting the Big Four, so do it.

The only 2 Star Armors that are better than the Big 4 and are worth keeping and leveling up are Stormrage+, Flowstone+ and Riverstone+, the rest are worse than the Big Four regardless of they're + or not.

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Originally Posted by Musketeer

Dark Prince's is fine, if you raise it to lvl35 to open up the +version

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raise it to lvl20

So does that mean I should level an LF+ anyway, but keep the dark prince around for later?

What about my other 2-3 star armors (Armor of the Infernal Lord and Brawler's Armor) - leave them around for later too or scrap?

surely u don't want your minions to run around naked?

the big four and bigger four will cover your needs for a long time at an economical price

Oh man a new thing. What are the bigger four?

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Originally Posted by theeggman85

Oh man a new thing. What are the bigger four?

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Armor of the Infernal Lord, Dark Prince's Armor, Rocfeather Robes and Swamp Shaman.

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Originally Posted by theeggman85

Oh man a new thing. What are the bigger four?

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Originally Posted by ZERO_07

Armor of the Infernal Lord, Dark Prince's Armor, Rocfeather Robes and Swamp Shaman.

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Although, if you have opened DPC's and got the Sky Guardian+, or you make it to level 45 on the current boss Notus, both of these Spirit/Air armors are much better than Rocfeather+.

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Originally Posted by ZERO_07

Armor of the Infernal Lord, Dark Prince's Armor, Rocfeather Robes and Swamp Shaman.

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wait i was told NOT to get rocfeather becuz it had pretty low stats. Should i get it or not? =/

it'll be a choice if you do not have a better armor with this element combo

If you can't get the + version of Notus, or aren't lucky enough to get a Sky Guardian + in the DPC, then Rocfeather is your only option for a Spirit/Air Armor.

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Originally Posted by D3athShade

wait i was told NOT to get rocfeather becuz it had pretty low stats. Should i get it or not? =/

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Who told you that? Someone with a ton of cash to open DPCs probably.

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So does that mean I should level an LF+ anyway, but keep the dark prince around for later?

What about my other 2-3 star armors (Armor of the Infernal Lord and Brawler's Armor) - leave them around for later too or scrap?

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Scrap the Brawler's. Keep the Infernal and unlock the + version. Upgrade dark prince until you unlock the + version and can gather the materials to craft it, otherwise use LF+ until you can craft the + version of DP.

From your previous posts, you said you've gotten to lv92. How do you not know this stuff already?