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02-22-2013, 10:00 PM
Carmine74

3 necklaces out of 8 tries-all cash opens...oh and one of those nifty jackets, lol.
02-22-2013, 10:13 PM
hoochie77

There are people with over 100 necklaces. There's no way they aren't hackers. No freakin way.
02-22-2013, 10:31 PM
cooch

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoochie77

There are people with over 100 necklaces. There's no way they aren't hackers. No freakin way.

The game's designed for you to spend real $. That's how they pay their salaries and profits to the "Man". If you use gold to reload and gold for a successful open you get results. While there is substantial debate as to the first 24 hours is the best time to use gold, the folks on the winner board, practice the 24 hr spend gold like crazy. They are not hackers. You just don't get the idea that for some people they are willing to pay money to succeed in game.

go back and read history in forum. Gree/Funzio will not make a freeloader version and a paying version. They will entice you as all good marketing companies do to go from free to pay. Folks like you stick around and play free or they disappear. Gree don't care my friend. Nor do many forum members that stick around.

If you don't like it and think you're going to be a pin cushion for those at your level that are going to pound you with what they buy/win....try another game or deal with it. You've been at this game for almost a year by your postings....so you must know the score. Between wanting a greener landscape and railing against reality you need to find a new game or deal with the real world of CC and Gree.
02-22-2013, 10:36 PM
hoochie77

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooch

The game's designed for you to spend real $. That's how they pay their salaries and profits to the "Man". If you use gold to reload and gold for a successful open you get results. While there is substantial debate as to the first 24 hours is the best time to use gold, the folks on the winner board, practice the 24 hr spend gold like crazy. They are not hackers. You just don't get the idea that for some people they are willing to pay money to succeed in game.

go back and read history in forum. Gree/Funzio will not make a freeloader version and a paying version. They will entice you as all good marketing companies do to go from free to pay. Folks like you stick around and play free or they disappear. Gree don't care my friend. Nor do many forum members that stick around.

If you don't like it and think you're going to be a pin cushion for those at your level that are going to pound you with what they buy/win....try another game or deal with it. You've been at this game for almost a year by your postings....so you must know the score. Between wanting a greener landscape and railing against reality you need to find a new game or deal with the real world of CC and Gree.

Were talking tons of money to be able to already have 100 necklaces. And there are people who do this for every event? I question the sanity of anyone who spends that much money on an iPhone game.

It's not a matter of freeloading. Even if you spend a reasonable amount of money you have no chance to compete.
02-22-2013, 10:44 PM
Tommy Two Toes

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoochie77

I question the sanity of anyone who spends that much money on an iPhone game.

If you haven't met many stupid or crazy people, you haven't met many people.
02-22-2013, 10:49 PM
cooch

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoochie77

Were talking tons of money to be able to already have 100 necklaces. And there are people who do this for every event? I question the sanity of anyone who spends that much money on an iPhone game.

It's not a matter of freeloading. Even if you spend a reasonable amount of money you have no chance to compete.

Yes dude there are quite a few threads from incredulous folks like you. Two things: People with cash to burn spend it on plenty of things others think are crazy or can't afford. Too many threads to count about how crazy it is to spend on pixels or 0s and 1s with comeback others spend on things other think are crazy. Both sides are right.

Go back to some threads to see how you get Gree's gold discount. Yes quite a few folks spend serious bucks on thousands of gold per month. Look at ITune's list of most profitable games: CC and MW are in Top 100 and even in Top 25 at times.

You're wrong about a 'reasonable' amount of real $ not being able to compete. You need to spend it on most effective return: Gold for certain cash bldgs using the spreadsheets some forum members created and contributed to figure out which are best. Certain events like bullet and map combo events are guaranteed 'wins' for gold you spend and not random wins. Used to hate those events until I realize they are best event...but rarely held since I've been playing.

You can do respectable with not much gold spend. My guess is that your strategy to this game is also the reason you are on the short end of stick.
02-22-2013, 10:52 PM
Sherod

Its all about luck and if its your time.there are numerous players that never spend gold but can beat out the big gold spenders on lots of events.have tried both sides.sometimes you win sometimes you lose.
02-22-2013, 10:52 PM
Alice

Just one question if has not been asked yet...Is that dog a vehicle or a melee weapon? Don't tell me it's an explosive...
02-22-2013, 10:54 PM
Dudebot121256

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice

Just one question if has not been asked yet...Is that dog a vehicle or a melee weapon? Don't tell me it's an explosive...

Wait, what dog? I see 2 armours, 2 melee weapons, 1 vehicle and 1 gun.
02-22-2013, 10:57 PM
cooch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice

Just one question if has not been asked yet...Is that dog a vehicle or a melee weapon? Don't tell me it's an explosive...

Yeah, had the same thought about what category...especially after CJ admitted that only history knows why Despoilers and wrist slicers are Armor and not Melee.

I'm going to guess the muttski is Armor or Melee. The dog either protects you or attacks for you so when one of the Top "Dogs" gets the weapon please let us know what category it is.

Or CJ can tell us:o
02-22-2013, 11:09 PM
MoarKrabs

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Originally Posted by Dudebot121256

Wait, what dog? I see 2 armours, 2 melee weapons, 1 vehicle and 1 gun.

The top prize for the 1st place winner.
02-22-2013, 11:12 PM
Dudebot121256

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoarKrabs

The top prize for the 1st place winner.

We have a top prize? I must have missed that spash screen >_<
02-22-2013, 11:16 PM
Alice

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooch

I'm going to guess the muttski is Armor or Melee. The dog either protects you or attacks for you so when one of the Top "Dogs" gets the weapon please let us know what category it is.

Or CJ can tell us:o

I'd like to believe the dog is just an extra "mafia" that do not take up any mafia slots and do not use any items, that is, it purely adds up into your total stats.
02-23-2013, 12:00 AM
ccmike

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoochie77

....I question the sanity of anyone who spends that much money on an iPhone....

I agree on that hoochie!
02-23-2013, 05:16 AM
zwiswoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by PawnXIIX

Odds based on how many tokens you have as usual:

0: 100%
1: 90%
2: 80%
3: 70.114% (61 out of 87)
4: 60%
5: 50%
6: 59.82% (67 out of 112)
7: 30.21% (29 out of 96)
8: 30.21% (29 out of 96)
9+: 30.21% (29 out of 96)

Thanks a lot for the info. I have to say at least it looks much better than the 5 and 2% drop rates for the last items in the previous count-to-ten event, it's just you need so many opens. I'm at five necklaces now, so dividing by two for a "medium" cash open it seems like conservatively it'd take 25-30 tries more to get to 10. Thereafter 30-35 tries more gets to 15 and again to twenty.

I can see why cash hardly ever gets to 20, lol. You'd have to be waking up in the middle of the night every hour every day for four days, and you might still get unlucky. Even 15 means once every waking hour basically. Ah well, ten again it is.
02-23-2013, 09:37 AM
THCraul

blunts started pouring in............:(
02-23-2013, 03:26 PM
Sherod

Welp...no necklaces for me so far today.am i alone?
02-23-2013, 03:34 PM
Scarface78

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherod

Welp...no necklaces for me so far today.am i alone?

I'm pretty close... got just one until now...
02-23-2013, 04:03 PM
MoarKrabs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherod

Welp...no necklaces for me so far today.am i alone?

All blnts since this morning.
02-23-2013, 04:11 PM
cooch

Got the fifth one today after 4 yesterday. But really all BLNTs otherwise. Not a promising event.
02-23-2013, 06:32 PM
realsavior

Wow still stuck at four...Have had a few opens of 50K cash and items but necklaces are hard to come by.
02-23-2013, 07:23 PM
budman68

rigged at he lowest level now. these events suck more and more
02-23-2013, 07:28 PM
PawnXIIX

Quote:

Originally Posted by budman68

rigged at he lowest level now. these events suck more and more

In what way is this "rigged"?
02-23-2013, 07:44 PM
MoarKrabs

Managed to get the 5th necklace. Will try to go for 10 but it's unlikely.
02-23-2013, 08:27 PM
budman68

Quote:

Originally Posted by PawnXIIX

In what way is this "rigged"?

Before I would get to the 8th crate, box what have you and get BLNT. But now struggling to get 5th open albeit using cash only. Not a gold spender.
02-23-2013, 08:46 PM
bald zeemer

That doesn't answer the question.

Although technically you could call any event where the %'s are set by the company running it "rigged", that really doesn't mean anything.
02-23-2013, 09:14 PM
PawnXIIX

The opening rate is the only unknown variable. As far as we are concerned everything is done by a random generator, but the odds to get necklaces are available to us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PawnXIIX

Odds based on how many tokens you have as usual:

0: 100%
1: 90%
2: 80%
3: 70.114% (61 out of 87)
4: 60%
5: 50%
6: 59.82% (67 out of 112)
7: 30.21% (29 out of 96)
8: 30.21% (29 out of 96)
9+: 30.21% (29 out of 96).

I estimate the opening rate for "fair chance" to be around 40% - 45%

Here is a simulation that used an open rate of 40% and a player with level 168

Code:

Box opened: Lockbox token #1 gained! Box opened: Lockbox token #2 gained! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #3 gained! Box opened: Lockbox token #4 gained! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Lockbox token #5 gained! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #6 gained! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #7 gained! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #8 gained! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #9 gained! Box opened: Lockbox token #10 gained! Box opened: Lockbox token #11 gained! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #12 gained! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Lockbox token #13 gained! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Lockbox token #14 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #15 gained! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #16 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Lockbox token #17 gained! Box opened: Lockbox token #18 gained! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #19 gained! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Lockbox token #20 gained! Total boxes opened: 46 Total attempts: 106 Total cost: 772800 Process completed.

You can see that there's a lot more fails that successes, but during that time you have much better odds of getting the items than in a collect 10 event. You don't need as many opens to get to the 20th item. In the collect 10 event I opened about 75 boxes and still didn't get the final prize, and this is double the items and half the opens needed.

Code:

--------------------Configuration: Open10Simulation - JDK version 1.6.0_21 <Default> - <Default>-------------------- Box opened: Lockbox token #1 gained! Box opened: Lockbox token #2 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #3 gained! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #4 gained! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Lockbox token #5 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #6 gained! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #7 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #8 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #9 gained! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Lockbox token #10 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #11 gained! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #12 gained! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Lockbox token #13 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #14 gained! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #15 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #16 gained! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #17 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Other reward found... Box opened: Lockbox token #18 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #19 gained! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! Box opened: Lockbox token #20 gained! Total boxes opened: 63 Total attempts: 182 Total cost: 1058400 Process completed.

That's an open rate of 30%, and even then it only takes about a week. That's only 3 days of overtime. You wouldn't even miss the next event. None of this "rigged" nonsense because it's really possible to do this.
02-23-2013, 09:27 PM
Kazper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarface78

ok, I just got a question here:

1. you can open just one case / hour, but you can find more then 1 case at hour?

Because i did 5 jobs and found a case, opened it and got a jewel, but there, I was looking for another case, did more than 50 jobs, and no cases ....

Do jobs with high Xp pay out, that seems to always give a case... For me at least... Hope that works for u!
02-23-2013, 09:29 PM
PawnXIIX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazper

Do jobs with high Xp pay out, that seems to always give a case... For me at least... Hope that works for u!

The item rate for jobs with over 400 energy per tap is around 90% drop rate. Just fight players, you'll be getting a drop rate of about 3 for every 5 or so fights.
02-23-2013, 10:48 PM
Sherod

dont give up

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoarKrabs

Managed to get the 5th necklace. Will try to go for 10 but it's unlikely.

Three days left my friend.stay focused.
02-24-2013, 04:02 AM
blubb

I have no luck in this Event :(
First try I got a necklace, and now 11!! trys with Money and i dont get anything :((
02-24-2013, 08:43 AM
zwiswoo

Finally got to 10 necklaces and the explosive. Time to bail out I think.
02-24-2013, 09:18 AM
ShirleyManson

5 opens in a row using cash only - 4x small cash, 1x big cash
i think i'd rather keep getting blnt's, at least this way I wouldn't gain exp finding boxes
02-24-2013, 09:38 AM
THCraul

blnts whole day wat the heck:(
02-24-2013, 09:42 AM
Carmine74

Stuck on 6 necklaces...all cash opens...going for 10. One thing that I hate is spending 19k to open the box and winning 10k. Gree should update their prizes, make it worthwhile to open them.
02-24-2013, 10:21 AM
Indian bong

7 opens so far . . 5 cash & 2 gold . .
02-24-2013, 10:42 AM
Leezygeezer

If you buy gold for resets and opens (including stamina resets) anyone know the odds of getting a jewel? I'm guessing it's gotta be at least 2 to 1 against!
02-24-2013, 10:50 AM
LongFingers

@Dudebot121256 Welcome at home :)

Here with 440 cases to open and 8 necklaces, all with cash option
02-24-2013, 10:57 AM
THCraul

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmine74

Stuck on 6 necklaces...all cash opens...going for 10. One thing that I hate is spending 19k to open the box and winning 10k. Gree should update their prizes, make it worthwhile to open them.

how come u r spending 19k cash
mine takes 14k cash
02-24-2013, 11:00 AM
PawnXIIX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leezygeezer

If you buy gold for resets and opens (including stamina resets) anyone know the odds of getting a jewel? I'm guessing it's gotta be at least 2 to 1 against!

Quote:

Originally Posted by PawnXIIX

Odds based on how many tokens you have as usual:

0: 100%
1: 90%
2: 80%
3: 70.114% (61 out of 87)
4: 60%
5: 50%
6: 59.82% (67 out of 112)
7: 30.21% (29 out of 96)
8: 30.21% (29 out of 96)
9+: 30.21% (29 out of 96)

Your odds if you open with gold are no different than your odds if you use a free open. The only thing that changes is the total amount of opens you will get.

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