New Dataset

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Originally Posted by mxz

Not even trying to hide the events as gold grabs anymore

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Now look, there has been some serious whining here on the forum by people who didn't succeed in opening the final box, even by big gold spenders. This finally is a way to please these people: no more chance involved: you know the price, pay it or leave it.

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Originally Posted by PawnXIIX

According to what I'm reading when you have 7, and you go for the 8th open there is a 1000/1009 chance it will be an item IF you open it successfully. The free open was I think somewhere around maybe 30% chance if you're giving it that much leeway.

That chart is when you have X amount of the item you are collecting, you have y chance of the open giving you the item we are collecting.

The only thing spending gold and the in game cash on affects is the rate at which you open them. You can still expect the same item rate if you spend gold or open them for free.

...[and a logic error just crashed my IDE]

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Thanks for the in-depth analysis and odds of getting the 10th. Odds must be much worse on collect 20

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Originally Posted by GQNammmer

Any business that focuses only on their current client base will at best maintain their profitability from one quarter to another but more than likely the sales will drop. Try telling your shareholders that all the products you're releasing is focused primarily on your current clientele.

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Sorry, what I meant to say is I think the new mgmt wanted proof of value/mktg strategy after Funzio bought. Also were some of mktg staff or whomever creates events and revenue cut in layoffs? Any change of mgmt I've been associated with if they don't see the results they want they either ask for proof or try things another way. In this business they get answers pretty quickly.

You're right, they need to hook new players and keep the paying ones happy, your guess as good as mine or better if they are succeeding. This current event is definitely a test ballon

And by the way if you interpreted my msg as current clientele you are wrong. New players that spend (wouldn't you on this new event to catch up or be on top of your level if you had $$) will latch on as well as the current spenders. Yes if you don't focus on the paying customers and keep the freebie/freeloaders happy you got some 'splaining to do to mgmt team. Consistent gold spenders means anyone willing to spend from Day 1 and beyond if you were confused with statement.

On the note of my findings, assuming that the opening rate is 50% will get you all 10 items in 50 or so opens on average.

That was using the data for the camera case.

This was the racing engine odds by engines owned:

0: 100%
1: 90%
2: 80%
3: 70.11%
4: 60%
5: 50%
6: 40.18%
7: 30.21%
8: 30.21%
9+: 30.21%

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Originally Posted by PawnXIIX

On the note of my findings, assuming that the opening rate is 50% will get you all 10 items in 50 or so opens on average.

That was using the data for the camera case.

This was the racing engine odds by engines owned:

0: 100%
1: 90%
2: 80%
3: 70.11%
4: 60%
5: 50%
6: 40.18%
7: 30.21%
8: 30.21%
9+: 30.21%

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Can you post the distribution of your results? The cumulative distribution function would be nice to see. Cool analysis....

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Originally Posted by murf

Can you post the distribution of your results? The cumulative distribution function would be nice to see. Cool analysis....

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Whew that might take a while... :p

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Originally Posted by cooch

Sorry, what I meant to say is I think the new mgmt wanted proof of value/mktg strategy after Funzio bought. Also were some of mktg staff or whomever creates events and revenue cut in layoffs? Any change of mgmt I've been associated with if they don't see the results they want they either ask for proof or try things another way. In this business they get answers pretty quickly.

You're right, they need to hook new players and keep the paying ones happy, your guess as good as mine or better if they are succeeding. This current event is definitely a test ballon

And by the way if you interpreted my msg as current clientele you are wrong. New players that spend (wouldn't you on this new event to catch up or be on top of your level if you had $$) will latch on as well as the current spenders. Yes if you don't focus on the paying customers and keep the freebie/freeloaders happy you got some 'splaining to do to mgmt team. Consistent gold spenders means anyone willing to spend from Day 1 and beyond if you were confused with statement.

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Fair enough. I'm no mktg major but in my opinion, Gree would not benefit by offering a sale on due to this new "event" if you want to even call it that. The players who are willing to spend 2000+ gold aren't going to make their decision on spending if there's a sale or not. More than likely this event is more of a gold dump for players sitting on massive amounts of gold already.

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Originally Posted by GQNammmer

The players who are willing to spend 2000+ gold aren't going to make their decision on spending if there's a sale or not. .

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Dude.... if there was a gold sale event I'd spend 10 000..... if there isnt I would spend 2000 max...
so all in all... there is a benefit to Gree if they had a gold sale...

I'm not a heavy spender so to speak but I have gotten the 10 vault bonus and the 5 vault bonus before (all during sales)
10 vault during the 40% and 5 during the 20%.

I take it you dont spend at all?

The only statement I agree with is that the event is a gold dump sale.
buy gold... spend it instantly
Have gold? now your not saving for that next event and instead your spending.
After you're done spending... come back for more :)

If you were going to spend 10000 gold then you'd also be eligible for the gold spender bonuses when you had bought your 10,000 gold.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthre...+Spender+Bonus