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We are just going to have to disagree on this my friend.

We are not lagging. It is the same as someone just starting the game today. They are behind you but will eventually get there respect points.

Campers just get money first.

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Originally Posted by Vile Lynn

Would you rather me quit or camp?

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You can be the exception to the rule Laura ;)

You can see most of my stats below (though they need updated).

I'm level8 I've done some attacking. Just built my second MT yesterday :D yay! I'm going for 2 lvl6 MT and 2 lvl2 Lofts and then I'm going to start attacking MORE. I am attacking now here and there... but not much... My goal is to be able to buy the best in game cash items. And like everyone else, I know I will get beat... but as long as I'm not getting beat 24/7 I'll be fine :D

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Originally Posted by Luciferianism

You missed the point completely fuzzy. Non-campers have more respect, because they have been in more fights. Respect equipment > cash equipment. Yes it's true campers will eventually start making respect, but non-campers have a massive head start in the long run, non-campers fight thousands more fights, have thousands more respect, using much better equipment and slaughter campers. Therefore camping = pointless. You actually hurt yourself by camping, by lagging behind in respect points.

To put it simply, an equally active camper and non-camper comparison; the camper could never catch up to the amount of respect the non-camper has. (barring the point at which the non-camper has 500 of each best respect items, in which case the gap would decrease but that's not a reasonable scenario). If you use logic you'll see my point, I can't be bothered to explain it anymore. If you want to camp do it, I don't care either way.

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Thats not true. A camper can gain the same amount of RP for his level as a non camper. So comparing two players of equal levels, a camper wll be = in respect to a non camper.

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Originally Posted by Ramshutu

Thats not true. A camper can gain the same amount of RP for his level as a non camper. So comparing two players of equal levels, a camper wll be = in respect to a non camper.

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Actually most campers attack lm... for lowxp:highrp

People powering through the levels attack everything and possibly do missions... getting them to lvl100 quicker and with... less rp... TADA!

CAMPERS WILL HAVE MORE RP!

Why hate on the campers - to each his own!

That's the beauty of this game as many have said - you can play it as you want and you can change it up from time to time - why criticize others.

I really don't get this "my way or the highway" mentallity. I have not been successful at camping - but maybe later I will wish I did. And I have learned a lot of information from those who do camp.

Why can't we all just get along:D.......in between beating each other up;)

Yeah... A non-camper wouldn't be the same level as a camper, they'd level far faster and the camper would be playing catch up. Then in the big picture, when all is said and done, the non-camper is level 200 sitting on a pile of respect, the camper is low level with no respect because he doesn't fight and rob a lot. And the non-camper is fighting all the time making it harder and harder for the camper to catch up to them. Your analogy of both being the same level is like saying a snail with a rocket strapped to it can be the same as a motorbike, the snail just isn't that way, they are not equal. The non-camper gets a massive lead of fights fought in the long run, you have to think about the big picture.

Two characters start at the same time, one camps, one doesn't. The non camper gets to level 200 with thousands of wins. The camper eventually gets to level 200, he has the respect of the non camper AT THE POINT the non camper HIT LEVEL 200, but the non camper has had thousands of fights in the mean time and much more respect points.

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Originally Posted by Luciferianism

Yeah... A non-camper wouldn't be the same level as a camper, they'd level far faster and the camper would be playing catch up. Then in the big picture, when all is said and done, the non-camper is level 200 sitting on a pile of respect, the camper is low level with no respect because he doesn't fight and rob a lot. And the non-camper is fighting all the time making it harder and harder for the camper to catch up to them. Your analogy of both being the same level is like saying a snail with a rocket strapped to it can be the same as a motorbike, the snail just isn't that way, they are not equal. The non-camper gets a massive lead of fights fought in the long run, you have to think about the big picture.

Two characters start at the same time, one camps, one doesn't. The non camper gets to level 200 with thousands of wins. The camper eventually gets to level 200, he has the respect of the non camper AT THE POINT the non camper HIT LEVEL 200, but the non camper has had thousands of fights in the mean time and much more respect points.

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If my camper turns to a crawler, A) I'll never be at 200 (so that is flawed), and B) I'll be farming the best RP:XP the entire time. We'll come out even or me ahead in the RP race. Non-campers did not know this at early levels, you probably zoomed right past this opportunity yourself pre-lvl25. I'll have 6 months of RP farming before I even hit lvl 10...I just don't see your argument here.

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Originally Posted by Luciferianism

Yeah... A non-camper wouldn't be the same level as a camper, they'd level far faster and the camper would be playing catch up. Then in the big picture, when all is said and done, the non-camper is level 200 sitting on a pile of respect, the camper is low level with no respect because he doesn't fight and rob a lot. And the non-camper is fighting all the time making it harder and harder for the camper to catch up to them. Your analogy of both being the same level is like saying a snail with a rocket strapped to it can be the same as a motorbike, the snail just isn't that way, they are not equal. The non-camper gets a massive lead of fights fought in the long run, you have to think about the big picture.

Two characters start at the same time, one camps, one doesn't. The non camper gets to level 200 with thousands of wins. The camper eventually gets to level 200, he has the respect of the non camper AT THE POINT the non camper HIT LEVEL 200, but the non camper has had thousands of fights in the mean time and much more respect points.

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I'm sorry - but are you like 12 years old? Cause my kids make better arguments than that...

You think a camper will be camping till he's level 200???? ARE YOU MAD?!?!?!

All low level campers are just that LOW LEVEL CAMPERS! Once they have enough MONEY they will BUY things so that they can BEAT people...

The difference is - THEY PICK THEIR BATTLES TO GAIN THE MOST RP POSSIBLE!!!

THEREFORE - the player will have MORE RP in the end... besides... who cares if number1 gets to lvl200 quicker than number2

this is a never ending game... it doesn't matter who gets to end first...

F00L

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Originally Posted by Luciferianism

Yeah... A non-camper wouldn't be the same level as a camper, they'd level far faster and the camper would be playing catch up. Then in the big picture, when all is said and done, the non-camper is level 200 sitting on a pile of respect, the camper is low level with no respect because he doesn't fight and rob a lot. And the non-camper is fighting all the time making it harder and harder for the camper to catch up to them. Your analogy of both being the same level is like saying a snail with a rocket strapped to it can be the same as a motorbike, the snail just isn't that way, they are not equal. The non-camper gets a massive lead of fights fought in the long run, you have to think about the big picture.

Two characters start at the same time, one camps, one doesn't. The non camper gets to level 200 with thousands of wins. The camper eventually gets to level 200, he has the respect of the non camper AT THE POINT the non camper HIT LEVEL 200, but the non camper has had thousands of fights in the mean time and much more respect points.

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Your argument is basically "non campers will get to 200 faster". This is a given, by the definition of camping.

Talking about how much respect and stats differ between a level 200 and a level 5 is irrelevant. All that matters is your stats compared to other players at your level. Even when hitting shark territory doesn't have an effect because the camper and non camper enter shark territory with the same stats and get beaten just as badly.

People who started playing 2 months ago have advantages such as access to M4s and others, but they have no inherent advantage on RP gain.

Lucifer, we really don't give a F that you think camping is pointless.

Play how you want, but let me tell you something. If you were to get to level 200. And I crawled up to 200. I would kick your ass in my Rival's List. You wouldn't stand a chance. I GUARANTEE i would have used my Stamina wiser throughout the levels. And, if i even continued to play this game to lvl 200, my economy would be so fantastic I would have 500 of the best cash weapons, plus all of the Respect I wisely farmed spent on only end-game weapons.

Your argument is invalid.

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Originally Posted by Luciferianism

The non camper gets to level 200 with thousands of wins.

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Easy there, we don't know if your going to be winning a lot. Those who race to lvl 200 tend to not win as much fights.

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Originally Posted by sexkitteh

I'm sorry - but are you like 12 years old? Cause my kids make better arguments than that...

You think a camper will be camping till he's level 200???? ARE YOU MAD?!?!?!

All low level campers are just that LOW LEVEL CAMPERS! Once they have enough MONEY they will BUY things so that they can BEAT people...

The difference is - THEY PICK THEIR BATTLES TO GAIN THE MOST RP POSSIBLE!!!

THEREFORE - the player will have MORE RP in the end... besides... who cares if number1 gets to lvl200 quicker than number2

this is a never ending game... it doesn't matter who gets to end first...

F00L

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Don't you know what happens to 12 year olds around here...............:D

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Originally Posted by sexkitteh

I'm sorry - but are you like 12 years old? Cause my kids make better arguments than that...

You think a camper will be camping till he's level 200???? ARE YOU MAD?!?!?!

All low level campers are just that LOW LEVEL CAMPERS! Once they have enough MONEY they will BUY things so that they can BEAT people...

The difference is - THEY PICK THEIR BATTLES TO GAIN THE MOST RP POSSIBLE!!!

THEREFORE - the player will have MORE RP in the end... besides... who cares if number1 gets to lvl200 quicker than number2

this is a never ending game... it doesn't matter who gets to end first...

F00L

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Wow...looks like someone's rubbed kitteh up the wrong way....miaow! >_<

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Originally Posted by sasha54

don't you know what happens to 12 year olds around here...............:d

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omg santa is back!

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Originally Posted by Dillinja

Wow...looks like someone's rubbed kitteh up the wrong way....miaow! >_<

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And here I'm telling you that I'm super easy going o_0...

w00ps

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Originally Posted by sexkitteh

And here I'm telling you that I'm super easy going o_0...

w00ps

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I thought you must live out in la la land -

Sorry, what were the counter arguments? "I don't care what you think and you're a 12 year old." Yeah great. I think we're done here.

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Originally Posted by Luciferianism

Sorry, what were the counter arguments? "I don't care what you think and you're a 12 year old." Yeah great. I think we're done here.

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Reread mine genius

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Originally Posted by Luciferianism

Sorry, what were the counter arguments? "I don't care what you think and you're a 12 year old." Yeah great. I think we're done here.

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At least read my post (#48) before replying aimlessly. I've been straightforward in all my responses.

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Originally Posted by Luciferianism

Sorry, what were the counter arguments? "I don't care what you think and you're a 12 year old." Yeah great. I think we're done here.

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Correction: we're?

You should change that to "I'm"

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Originally Posted by Dreno33

I GUARANTEE i would have used my Stamina wiser throughout the levels. And, if i even continued to play this game to lvl 200, my economy would be so fantastic I would have 500 of the best cash weapons, plus all of the Respect I wisely farmed spent on only end-game weapons.

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LOL..."guarantee" all you want tough guy, cash weapons are meaningless above level 75 or so.

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Originally Posted by Max Power

LOL..."guarantee" all you want tough guy, cash weapons are meaningless above level 75 or so.

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Well... he does have 1k + gold bars ; )

So I'm sure he be spending a little cash in game too :D

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Originally Posted by Max Power

LOL..."guarantee" all you want tough guy, cash weapons are meaningless above level 75 or so.

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What are these mysterious cash weapons - everyone else has told me there are NO decent cash weapons. I have some that I purchased when I was doing some very early map goals - but after that I haven't bought anything with cash. OK - maybe steel garrotes are fine but that's the only 1 I could think of..............

Grenade Launcher 12/9
Steel Garrote 10/5
Blast Guard Helmet 6/14
Audi 11/9

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Originally Posted by sexkitteh

Grenade Launcher 12/9
Steel Garrote 10/5
Blast Guard Helmet 6/14
Audi 11/9

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Who recommended them -

no one recommended them... I do like steel Garrote and Blast guard Helmet though. I will buy those.

Are there better then mentioned cash "end of game" weapons?

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Originally Posted by Max Power

No, you made an unsolicited one.

The OP asked for campers stats, and you decided that your opinion was so important that you would turn this thread into the 50th camping vs non-camping debate. How original. Thanks.

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+50th!
Thx Max

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Originally Posted by Max Power

LOL..."guarantee" all you want tough guy, cash weapons are meaningless above level 75 or so.

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i highly doubt i will be playing in the HL still. we'll all stop playing at some time. I will enjoy my cash weapons while they last(:

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Originally Posted by sexkitteh

no one recommended them... I do like steel Garrote and Blast guard Helmet though. I will buy those.

Are there better then mentioned cash "end of game" weapons?

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I don't think there are any end-game cash weapons................

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Originally Posted by Dillinja

You can be the exception to the rule ;)

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lol, as always :p

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Originally Posted by Dreno33

i highly doubt i will be playing in the HL still. we'll all stop playing at some time. I will enjoy my cash weapons while they last(:

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Never said you shouldn't.

But check yourself talking smack about all these great cash weapons your amazing economy will buy end game and how you will kick people ass "guaranteed".

It ain't gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by Max Power

Never said you shouldn't.

But check yourself talking smack about all these great cash weapons your amazing economy will buy end game and how you will kick people ass "guaranteed".

It ain't gonna happen.

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shoulda probably referred to MY end game. around 100 or less... yeah probably less

side note since you mention it. Why do any of you focus on economy at all at the end game is there isn't anything worth buying as weapons?

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Originally Posted by Dreno33

side note since you mention it. Why do any of you focus on economy at all at the end game is there isn't anything worth buying as weapons?

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Because in a pi$$ing contest, whoever does it the furthest and longest wins....cant think of any other logical reason.

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Originally Posted by Dillinja

Because in a pi$$ing contest, whoever does it the furthest and longest wins....cant think of any other logical reason.

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they should seriously consider new "nearly Gold-equivalent" weapons unlocked throughout the 100+ levels for a pricy tag. Will encourage more to buy Gold buildings and play longer. Am i wrong?

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Originally Posted by Dillinja

Because in a pi$$ing contest, whoever does it the furthest and longest wins....cant think of any other logical reason.

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That's pretty much it. I am probably gonna buy Palms and I have no idea why.

Dont do it max!!

I literally lol'd, dillinja...

Wow guys! Ireally enjoyed this thread, although it went way off the charts LOL. I'm not a camper myself but was just curious about how hi you actually go an still camp....but pretty good read lol:p

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Originally Posted by Dreno33

shoulda probably referred to MY end game. around 100 or less... yeah probably less

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I think this is the biggest reason camping doesn't appeal to me. I totally get that if you really play this game for an long period of time, you might gain some advantage through camping then crawling. But I doubt I have the interest level for that amount of real time for this game, so I want a strategy of game play that lets me play actively now, when the game is relatively new and interesting to me. I don't want a strategy that takes months of not doing most aspects of the game before I can be active. So I can see how for a second account, it might be sort of fun to compare the characters, but I only have one device that I use regularly.