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With that being said, where do we really go from here? If money isn't spent to keep the game going. It goes away and we waste nearly 3 yrs of our lives. Does Gree care about that time? Gree is a company owned and operated by Japanese. They could care less about British and American opinions, unless it they are getting richer. Figure that out ;)
The complaints keep piling up from those of us who have been around since the launch of KA. As difficult and unbalanced the game has become for us long timers, think about how IMPOSSIBLE rpthe game us for new people coming in. I worked very hard & long over 3 years to finally be able to feel good when RB started only to have all that work & time completely negated as Gree raises the difficulty. What is the point if striving to improve & get better when we as players can never progress. I am not spending another penny on gems to play this game because I get nothing back in return. For the rest of the community.....the only way Gree will listen is for everyone to stop using gems. Instead of constantly complaining to developers who have proven their unwillingness to listen to the community....make them hear you by stopping the revenue stream....stop using gems.
The normal raid boss prize is Ironfist Warmonger 91243/142705 +2% Blistering Battlefield Conquest Attack. Another weak temporary bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erageous
I mean this with the greatest of respect for my fellow KA gamers. But anyone doing HRB with these figures are somewhat crazy. Playing straight into Gree's hands. What we should be doing is collectively saying NO! . Any guild completing HRB are doing no favours at all for the other masses that play the game regularly. Respect to the guilds saying no.
It's not really Gree's fault. If people are willing to pay for something no matter how absurd prices are, someone will be willing to sell them at that given price.
If you want to stop this madness, stop the people finishing Heroic Raid Boss!
We, again, have proof that the Mods are reading this Forum. Someone merged 2 similar threads here. There is no response from anyone, and we can just hope that they bring our frustration to the developers. I guess they will hear from management when they find out that this RB was the least profitable ever
I have turned off the in game purchasing. Will not spend another penny On a game that no matter how much time & effort is spent in improving, you can never win...
The only way to make gree listen is to hit them in their wallets. Most of the top ten won't be using gems on this RB. And RKSB has told their people not to use gems. Hopefully that sends out a clear message.
I personally will not be using gems. My guild finished last HRB using gems, but we have instructed out people not to use gems this time.
Same here!Quote:
Originally Posted by E-I
Will not buy a single Gem until this appealing company start to deliver!!!
Will use what I have as suits me(not this RB as it's a joke)and for a prize we never get to see LOL
In the mean time I will explore other games that have a good reputation(not GREE) and ask my guild to try them.
I bet 95% of players in KA now only play for the people they meet as aposed to the game itself.... solution All move to another game :)
Can anyone confirm whether or not you need to complete HRB to get the Bog Basilisk (2nd to last Antiquary unit)? I have a feeling that is the only way to get it. :mad:
Hey my KA friends, A bit of a math geek here so hope you don't mind a bit more detail on how much it will cost to finish HRB.
So with the 89% Raid Boss Health increase you need to do approximately 9,600 Billion damage across the entire event. If you have 60 people in your guild. That equates to 27B/day per person. Now let look at it from WLD perspective. As a team we have done 600B damage already (gem free). We have a large number of members with FA's over 1 billion and a 9/10 health regen guild bonus.
However, in order to keep pace with the needed daily damage, we would need to do 1,600B/day. So that means we will end day 1 about 900B short (assumes our current pace so means we will finish day 1 with about 700B damage as a team). In the past we have used outside help (up to 100 jumpers/hour last event) and that was good for up to 200B additional damage daily. So with our best foot forward, and using outside help we are still 700B short a day.
NOW THE FUN PART: So how much would it cost WLD as a team to complete this event (assuming a 1billion FA and jumper help)? drum roll please... 17,500 gems PER DAY or 105,000 gems total for the entire event... THAT IS FOR ONE SILLY PRIZE THAT NO ONE EVEN KNOWS WHAT IT IS. As I have said before, WLD is out!
UPDATE: Gree has posted that the final HRB unit is Ironfisted Viking with stats of 435032/355935 with a +4% Infantry Defense permanent bonus. BRAAAA HAAAA HAAAA. Back to my first post, funniest event ever. Cheers GREE, I needed a great laugh today.
Golf clap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattman@WLD
So I guess Gree will get zero gems per day. Sounds like you win. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattman@WLD
If they give it as an RB prize, it will probably be on 31/33 or 32/33 heroic :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by E-I
Rebalancing the game was needed to make things more challenging to players and profitable for Gree. However, Gree went overboard with all events. Now, it is beyond challenging, into the realm of impossible for most players. As such, Gree will get less money as the casual gemmer sees no point in continuing and heavy gemmers are burning out trying to complete never ending quests. On the bright side, I have resigned myself to Gree not listening to player concerns and opinions, as well as not being able to improve my profile to be competitive at top 25 anymore. This has opened up new possibilities, like reading a book, talking to my partner, looking out the window, and even venturing into the thing called outside. If that was Gree's real intention, they have done an awesome job.
Sweet {T}, aka Trillian of FPK and Serita, Founder of Daddy Chubbs
Making things require tens of thousands of gems to complete doesn't increase profits. Reducing the cost of things so that more people are willing to participate will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockeydoc
Skimming the forum, I did not see the data presented quite this way... Increasing difficulty by 320% last cycle and 89% this cycle culminates in a total increase of 605%. In 4 weeks. Show me the avatar (outside of a newborn) that had gone up by even 2x-- much less 6x-- in that same amount of time. It's fantastically skewed!
One of our co-founders has the basilisk already (Rr). She said she got it from a chest during the EB event. Also, in the last antiquary event, we also had a different member that already had the knight before it won in the HRB (think 31/33). Anyway, it seems there are a few who have it and I am guessing that like last time, the missing unit for most of us will be offered deep into the HRB (31/33). :(Quote:
Originally Posted by E-I
I hope more guilds take you're stance on this and boycott it !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattman@WLD
No prize is worth the principle of this stance and I applaude all those who choose to stick two fingers up at GREE and say "we have had enough"
Incidentally i believe the prize is......
The 33/33 Heroic RB prize is the Ironfist Viking, stats are 435032 atk/355935 def with a +4% Infantry Defense permanent bonus.
The Developers are aware of this thread, and the feedback regarding the recent Raid Boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vclone
But they never heard our feedback last time. They just doubled down. That's why we are so upset.
what is the developers' response to our feedback?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clementine
So there's been a decrease from the start of RB yet the health still remains way higher than last RB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clementine
Last RB was ridiculous so it's still a fail.
Gree are you trying the double bluff here. "we do listen so we have dropped health"
It's not good enough. If you had listened from last RB then you wouldnt have raised it this time.
^^^ a decrease in the rate of increase is still an overall increase. We cannot keep up!
I'm still waiting to see some data/proof that we are finishing normal and heroic within hours!! Since that is Gree's basis for increasing difficulties, please have the courtesy of proving your case. We clearly feel the opposite. This is not a group of players stomping our feet for the sake of complaining.
Becoming beyond frustrated,
Clementine,Quote:
Originally Posted by Krissy
I responded to Relic in another thread http://forums.gree.net/showthread.ph...is-Forum/page2. I don't want to be redundant here, but the same applies to you. Thank you for responding and being our liaison to the developers. However, it is too little too late. They did not seem to listen to us last time. We just want to have fun. Impossible or very expensive tasks are not fun.
Hahaha, so they reduced L65 to 9,977,341,367 from 14,511,081,700. Which is still over the 7,674,877,974 they raised it to last time. Guess we are to be thankful for that 😕
Too little, too late. I belive is the correct term.Quote:
Originally Posted by cecil
Gree, you really blew it this time. My guild was all set to finish HRB. We had heavy hitting "guests" lined up, we had a new jump room with around the clock coverage. When we saw that all bosses were increased 89%, we called it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by cecil
For the heck of it, we decided to continue on into heroic to see how far we could get. Then all of a sudden, you drop the Boss' health to only a 30% increase. By that time we were fed up, and our "Guest" hitters decided to just farm bosses in protest. Still we carried on, and now we are just about finished with 25/33 (one boss left), and we're not even trying very hard.
If you had made the initial increase 20-30% like it ended up being, we would have spent a bunch of gems getting it finished. Instead, you lost out on a lot of spending.
When will you learn that if you make goals unreasonable, peeps will give up instead of going for it, and risking certain failure?
Not to mention getting peeps so frustrated that they give up KA completely.
There's a difference between hearing and caring. Gree hears you. Gree don't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krissy
I was just wondering, if Warlord finished RBH, how many members they had left? 👏
shouldnt gree give out weaker units then? instead of throwing out 100k units left and right
Great to see they r screwing us accross all the games evenly. Modern war has copped it too.
As a fairly decent gem user (I wouldn't consider myself heavy by any means) I would readily spend when I thought I had a chance at progressing not only myself but the guild in general. The level of difficulty that this event has been raised has basically demotivated me from wanting to spend because there is no way possible of reaching the dangling carrot. What was once in reach & tempting me to spend has now become far out of reach & not worth the cash needed to achieve it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockeydoc